Too Early? Or Cause for Concern?

[superpunk]

Watching the practice videos being posted up by EverlastingXXX (which are a godsend) you really notice something when watching the 11 on 11 drills.

(a) The defense is not getting to the QB, and
(b) The QB is able to simply step up, avoid the edge rush and dump it off to a TE or RB underneath.

With the angle, it's hard to tell how much those dump-offs are netting, but it was just something that caught my eye. It seems like the secondary has good coverage downfield, but the pass rush just isn't getting there. Recognizing that it's early on, and there's alot of time for improvement, what do you think about it? The flaw in the players execution of our defense from last year was apparent in the preseason, when teams went underneath to their backs for 10 yard gains consistently, so it's not like it's impossible to catch anything this early.

Just seems like the defensive linemen are ineffective. Watch Saturday's end to get an idea.

 

[Maxmadden]

Too Early, as in the morning.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Kinda reminds a fan of last year huh--but, it is early and not stunting.....it should be different.

 

[dbair1967]

Watching the practice videos being posted up by EverlastingXXX (which are a godsend) you really notice something when watching the 11 on 11 drills.

(a) The defense is not getting to the QB, and
(b) The QB is able to simply step up, avoid the edge rush and dump it off to a TE or RB underneath.

With the angle, it's hard to tell how much those dump-offs are netting, but it was just something that caught my eye. It seems like the secondary has good coverage downfield, but the pass rush just isn't getting there. Recognizing that it's early on, and there's alot of time for improvement, what do you think about it? The flaw in the players execution of our defense from last year was apparent in the preseason, when teams went underneath to their backs for 10 yard gains consistently, so it's not like it's impossible to catch anything this early.

Just seems like the defensive linemen are ineffective. Watch Saturday's end to get an idea.

yeah...take a step back from the ledge dude

David

 

[Hoofbite]

Too too too early.

Even if the D gets to the QB all they can do is just touch him and let the play continue.

I wouldn't sweat it.

 

[sacase]

Too too too early.

Even if the D gets to the QB all they can do is just touch him and let the play continue.

I wouldn't sweat it.

QFT!!

 

[superpunk]

Too too too early.

Even if the D gets to the QB all they can do is just touch him and let the play continue.

I wouldn't sweat it.

It is too early. But we already know that if they don't get to the QB, there's going to be problems - it's the nature of the blitzing beast we're going with. The fact that it's already showing up in camp is disconcerting. It's not like the problems with the shallow flat coverage last year surprised anyone who was paying attention during last preseason. It's not looking so far like that's going to change.

But it is a good point about just touching the QB and continuing. I can't tell in the video if that's happening or not.

*phenomenal insight as always, Big Dakota.*

 

[Big Dakota]

:damn:

 

[Vintage]

I think its too early to be overly concerned with it.

The offense should be winning the battle this early on, to begin with. Remember, our offense was near the top of the league. Owens, Crayton, Glenn, Witten, Fasano, etc are more than enough weapons to give an elite defense trouble nevermind our own defense.

A new style of 3-4 may take time to adjust to it more than the week or so of practice thus far, I don't know.

I wouldn't be worried in terms of changing our team's outlook. I still think 10-6 is a possibility.

But I would be lying if I said I wasn't a bit disappointed. I didn't honestly expect a "magic wand" to fix anything. But after being told numerous times that Wade's scheme was so vastly superior to Parcells' and that it was coaches, not the players....that I'd have thought you'd begin to catch glimpses of it....although, this is only one such tape I've seen thus far.

 

[Hoofbite]

But it is a good point about just touching the QB and continuing. I can't tell in the video if that's happening or not.

Im pretty sure it is. If you watch the play that starts right about 5:57, you can see Ware just completely blow by his man ande touch the QB on the small of his back a good second-and-a-half before the QB throws.


Also....Spencer is 93 isn't he? If so, hes thicker then I imagined.

 

[superpunk]

Im pretty sure it is. If you watch the play that starts right about 5:57, you can see Ware just completely blow by his man ande touch the QB on the small of his back a good second-and-a-half before the QB throws.


Also....Spencer is 93 isn't he? If so, hes thicker then I imagined.

It very well may just look vastly different from that angle and quality - because Vela said this in his blog;

On the whole, however, the defensive pass coverage looks much faster than anything we saw last season, a subject I’ll handle in greater detail tomorrow. One reason I know Romo is sharp is because the defense is giving the offense very few open passing windows and only Romo can complete passes more than ten yards down the field with any regularity. He’s not just making amazing throws because he can; half the time Romo has no choice. Receivers do break open, but not with the frequency we saw last year.

Of course, he is fantastically rosey this year.

 

[Doomsday]

Mark me down as one who is worried. I dont care who the coach is the players still have to be able to beat the guy infront of him something Spears and company have yet to show they can do.

 

[Doomsday101]

Watching the practice videos being posted up by EverlastingXXX (which are a godsend) you really notice something when watching the 11 on 11 drills.

(a) The defense is not getting to the QB, and
(b) The QB is able to simply step up, avoid the edge rush and dump it off to a TE or RB underneath.

With the angle, it's hard to tell how much those dump-offs are netting, but it was just something that caught my eye. It seems like the secondary has good coverage downfield, but the pass rush just isn't getting there. Recognizing that it's early on, and there's alot of time for improvement, what do you think about it? The flaw in the players execution of our defense from last year was apparent in the preseason, when teams went underneath to their backs for 10 yard gains consistently, so it's not like it's impossible to catch anything this early.

Just seems like the defensive linemen are ineffective. Watch Saturday's end to get an idea.

I would say the key word in all of this is Drills. I would rather wait until we start facing other teams before getting too concerned.

 

[superpunk]

I would say the key word in all of this is Drills. I would rather wait until we start facing other teams before getting too concerned.

Another key couple of words is 11 on 11 - so it's not like it's individual drills where the Dlinemen have a significant advantage.

 

[Doomsday101]

Another key couple of words is 11 on 11 - so it's not like it's individual drills where the Dlinemen have a significant advantage.

I'm just saying this is practice, if you want to make a big deal out of it be my guest but it is practice and these are still drills they are running. I'm not going to lose my head over 1 or 2 practice sessions.

 

[Hoov]

I'm just saying this is practice, if you want to make a big deal out of it be my guest but it is practice and these are still drills they are running. I'm not going to lose my head over 1 or 2 practice sessions.

Yes SP, whats wrong with you, come down off that ledge my friend .

We should be discussing other things, like what did TO say yetsterday ?

 

[superpunk]

I'm just saying this is practice, if you want to make a big deal out of it be my guest but it is practice and these are still drills they are running. I'm not going to lose my head over 1 or 2 practice sessions.

Noone's asking you to lose your head, sweetie. Just discuss. It is just practice, but it's not the individual drills that worry - it's the 11 on 11 drills. I'd say that gives a pretty good indication of how a unit is performing, and I don't think it's reasonable to just brush it under a rug with "it's just practice." Concern does not have to equal "freaking out." As reasoning adults, I think we can have reasonable discussion on it further than just "no worries - it's only practice, mate" without it being deemed an overreaction.

 

[joseephuss]

Both too early now and a cause for concern.

It is too early because it is just practice. We will know a little more during pre-season games, but we really have to wait until the season starts. Even if they were getting to the QB often in practice, it would still be just practice. Unfortunately we have to wait.

The pass rush is one area to have concerns with at this time. It has plagued Dallas for many years now. I will be concerned until they prove that it is not a concern. I would like to see that answered in the first game with Eli on his back many times.

 

[tomson75]

I don't remember thinking that after watching the video. I do, however, remember seeing where someone let up as they neared the QB so as not to disrupt the pass play. Also, wasn't there a report yesterday that said it was becoming difficult for the QB's out there, and that none of them, including our savior, had sufficient time to make their reads? I dunno. I'm just not going to get worried yet...at least until I see a lack of pass rush during the preseason games.

 

[Doomsday101]

Noone's asking you to lose your head, sweetie. Just discuss. It is just practice, but it's not the individual drills that worry - it's the 11 on 11 drills. I'd say that gives a pretty good indication of how a unit is performing, and I don't think it's reasonable to just brush it under a rug with "it's just practice." Concern does not have to equal "freaking out." As reasoning adults, I think we can have reasonable discussion on it further than just "no worries - it's only practice, mate" without it being deemed an overreaction.

I'm not losing my head and I'm not concerned over drills you asked a question I responsded then you go off about it being 11 on 11 so what, it is still just a practice and controlled until I see them out on the playing field aginst another team I see no reason to be concerned over it. It is your question too early or cause for concern It is too early!!!