Top 10 Passer Rating under Pressure heading into week 6

[Typhus]

Why did Washington get the the best QB in the class

Why couldn't they just draft Drake Maye

Drake gets his first start this Sunday.

 

[Chasing6]

Why did Washington get the the best QB in the class

Why couldn't they just draft Drake Maye

Washington has not played anyone yet.

 

[Mikexike]

He is about as consistent as it gets in the NFL lmao

On this board, the definition of consistency is "never makes a mistake."

Can he be consistent with his regular season play and carry it into the playoffs? Not a hard ask.

I will say he is consistent like the defense in the playoffs.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Can he be consistent with his regular season play and carry it into the playoffs? Not a hard ask.

I will say he is consistent like the defense in the playoffs.

This is stupid, because it assumes every QB plays at the same level against SF as they do other teams.

I know you will refuse to acknowledge that, because you're a "QB winzzz durrr" dufus, but that's the reality of it .

 

[Chasing6]

Can he be consistent with his regular season play and carry it into the playoffs? Not a hard ask.

I will say he is consistent like the defense in the playoffs.

The playoffs are against playoff teams.

 

[big dog cowboy]

6-12 in what? In 2023, Dak ranked:

#1 in Completion %, TDs, 3rd down EPA
#2 in passer rating, QBR, EPA/play, TD%
#3 in INT%
#4 in AY/A

What was his playoff record again? What great victory did he lead the Cowboys too?

 

[Chasing6]

What was his playoff record again? What great victory did he lead the Cowboys too?

What was Parson's playoff record?

 

[Mikexike]

The playoffs are against playoff teams.

So what's your point?

 

[Mikexike]

This is stupid, because it assumes every QB plays at the same level against SF as they do other teams.

I know you will refuse to acknowledge that, because you're a "QB winzzz durrr" dufus, but that's the reality of it .

nope, its a team game.

no one is assuming anything but you.

 

[FanofJerry]

Washington's rookie is ranked #2 in results under pressure. A rookie.

This does not bode well for the other three teams in the NFC East.

Thats fair.

But the real question is how much weight do you put into young qb's being "figured out" by end of the season.

Dont we have to give defensive coordinators at least a year on this kid? Only seems fair to me.

I get it...he is being hurried and is still performing well currently.

Or is all the talk I have heard for 30 years about most qb's being "figured out" and having sophomore slumps all just been jazzy talk that sounds good?

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

nope, its a team game.

no one is assuming anything but you.

Then there is nothing to say that he is inconsistent in the playoffs lol.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

What was his playoff record again? What great victory did he lead the Cowboys too?

Oh, you being afraid of fact and data again? What's Lamar's? Josh Allen? There's only one "best" quarterback every year by this metric.

All I'm doing is simply saying that by no metric is he "6th-12th."

This is a really good effort with the "QB winzzz durrr" argument that we've seen 500000 times, but it is nonsense, and devoid of any actual substance.

 

[Momanpr100]

Does it count when he rolls into pressure because he has no pocket presence and has no clue how to step up the pocket?

I wonder how such a bad QB like Dak survives 8 or 9 years in the NFL with a high winning percentage. We must have some great coaches and gms and scouts

 

[plasticman]

Thats fair.

But the real question is how much weight do you put into young qb's being "figured out" by end of the season.

Dont we have to give defensive coordinators at least a year on this kid? Only seems fair to me.

I get it...he is being hurried and is still performing well currently.

Or is all the talk I have heard for 30 years about most qb's being "figured out" and having sophomore slumps all just been jazzy talk that sounds good?

I think that "figuring out" a new quarterback applies more to the type of quarterback with a more dynamic, less standard set of skills.

A young quarterback can make up for his lack of polish by using some physical advantage like elite speed such as Robert Griffon III or imposing strength and size such as Ben Roethlisberger. Sooner or later the opponent designs a strategy to deal with these special talents.

However, what do you do when a young quarterback simply possesses a superior ability to do the standard things at an elite level in addition to non-standard skills?

There are skills that are normally expected to take years to learn, such as reading defenses, anticipating the reaction of your receivers in certain situations and disguising the direction of the play.

Jayden Daniels plays like a 10-year veteran. He is a well seasoned QB, the result of having played in 55 college games for major programs. He is the 2023 Heisman Trophy winner, completing 72% of his passes his last year, for 40 TD's and 4 INT's

In addition to throwing for more than 3800 yards last year, he was also ran for over 1100 yards in 12 games.

I hope the Cowboys have more answers for his abilities than they had for RGIII when he burst onto the NFL scene.

 

[FanofJerry]

I think that "figuring out" a new quarterback applies more to the type of quarterback with a more dynamic, less standard set of skills.

A young quarterback can make up for his lack of polish by using some physical advantage like elite speed such as Robert Griffon III or imposing strength and size such as Ben Roethlisberger. Sooner or later the opponent designs a strategy to deal with these special talents.

However, what do you do when a young quarterback simply possesses a superior ability to do the standard things at an elite level in addition to non-standard skills?

There are skills that are normally expected to take years to learn, such as reading defenses, anticipating the reaction of your receivers in certain situations and disguising the direction of the play.

Jayden Daniels plays like a 10-year veteran. He is a well seasoned QB, the result of having played in 55 college games for major programs. He is the 2023 Heisman Trophy winner, completing 72% of his passes his last year, for 40 TD's and 4 INT's

In addition to throwing for more than 3800 yards last year, he was also ran for over 1100 yards in 12 games.

I hope the Cowboys have more answers for his abilities than they had for RGIII when he burst onto the NFL scene.

Sounds like he can play well at college level and is doing well in NFL thus far.

Hopefully some QB coach that feels obligated to bring something to the table because he is paid to do so doesnt ruin what Daniels has going for himself.

My opinion is that many good QB's that have moxy and could play the game have failed do to coaches trying to mold them into something the player isnt(usually pocket passer). Example, how brilliant is PGA player Scottie Scheffler's coach for not messing with his feet off the tee box. Best player in PGA has the ABSOLUTE WORST feet when driving. NFL coaches would mess with Scotties stance and feet and just mess his game up.

Anyway...I get your post...but it still seems like moving goal posts or side-stepping the 'figured out' possibility by NFL D-Coordinators.

I just think we have to wait and see if coordinators find something on him. And...they may not and Daniels and Stroud are the new Mahomes'. Thats good for football.

 

[Dorsett33]

The level of his playing ability. He seems to do best under extreme pressure. he thinks he can flip a switch?

I don't see that at all. I actually thinks he's very consistent. If you're talking about a bad game here and there, all players and QBs have those. But you don't throw for 65-69% completion and at the top in yards and say it's not consistent. He's had one year where he threw more interceptions than usual. So, I'm not quite sure what you mean.

 

[Wildcat711]

And a lot of the haters wanted Trance and Fields.

Dunno why you are still going after Lance when his ints got Dak paid.. you should be happy he's on the team.

and now you have decided to sneer at Mahomes.. seriously??

better than sneering at Aikman I guess.

 

[Chasing6]

Dunno why you are still going after Lance when his ints got Dak paid.. you should be happy he's on the team.

and now you have decided to sneer at Mahomes.. seriously??

better than sneering at Aikman I guess.

Trance will be at Target next year.

 

[NeverBeGameOver]

yup,,, I'd gladly settle for a QB with lesser stats but who rose to the occasion when the chips were down,,, instead of folding like a wet taco. Stats are often worthless things.

Who are all these QBs that do this though? That don't seem to choke or fall short at some point. Brady and Mahomes have won 6 out of the 8 Super Bowls that Dak's been in the league. Of all the superstar QBs that have been around, somehow Nick Foles and Matthew Stafford were the ones lucky enough to steal the other two. Nick Foles is eh, and Dak is bare minimum on Stafford's level. In other words, he's good enough to win a super bowl if the stars align.

Truth is we're no worse off than anyone else who wasn't lucky enough to have Brady and Mahomes.

 

[Chasing6]

yup,,, I'd gladly settle for a QB with lesser stats but who rose to the occasion when the chips were down,,, instead of folding like a wet taco. Stats are often worthless things.

You must mean like finally scoring a TD in the SB late in the 3rd quartered after a muffed punt on SF 16 yard line?

Then tying the game up on a FG because the Niners missed an extra point?

Mahomes definitely rose to the occasion.