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Top 100 risers/fallers in NFL draft
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Previous Top 100 risers/fallers: 3/12

Risers
Ohio State outside linebacker Bobby Carpenter, characterized by trainers as only 90 percent healthy, impressed scouts with his speed in 40 yards (4.66, 4.68) and other workouts. However, some scouts believe he has little upside potential despite looking good now.

Florida State cornerback Antonio Cromartie further erased concerns about the health of his surgically repaired left knee with times of 4.37 and 4.39 seconds in 40 yards and a 42-inch vertical jump at his March 16 Pro Day.

Oregon wide receiver Demetrius Williams helped his standing in a poor class of wide receivers with a 40-yard time of 4.46 at his Pro Day workout.

Colorado tight end Joe Klopfenstein performed well in his positional drills and clocked a 40-yard time of 4.56 at his Pro Day workout.


Fallers
Texas quarterback Vince Young received obligatory rave notices from some after his Pro Day March 22, but the reality is he didn't do anything that should improve his stock. He ran fast, in the 4.55-second area, but that wasn't news. Despite coaching by Jerry Rhome, his throwing motion and footwork is still shaky. And now that the Raiders, New Orleans, Miami, Detroit and the New York Jets have acquired free agent quarterbacks, his market is shrinking in the first round. It seems doubtful Tennessee (No. 3) will take him, leaving his best possible chances with Arizona (No. 10) and Minnesota (No. 17).

Georgia's massive guard Max Jean-Gilles is slipping down the board as teams question the dedication and stamina of the 355-pounder. At this size, Jean-Gilles doesn't project well for the smaller, quicker offensive line schemes currently preferred by many NFL clubs.

Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali also has a size problem -- in this case it's the lack of enough of it. After measuring in at 275 pounds, prototypical of the position, Hali weighed in twelve pounds lighter at the Penn State Pro Day, leaving some to question how well he'll maintain his playing weight over the course of the grueling NFL season.

Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes has yielded his spot as the top-rated wideout in the draft to Florida's Chad Jackson amid concerns that Holmes' weight dropped significantly since the Combine. Holmes measured a solid 188 pounds in Indianapolis, but dropped to 179 when it came time to run at his Pro Day.



NFLDraftScout.com's top 100 risers/fallers
Rise/Fall Overall Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. 40 Proj Rd
1 *Reggie Bush RB Southern Cal 5-11 201 4.42 1
2 D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia 6-6 312 5.26 1
riser 3 *Mario Williams DE North Carolina State 6-7 295 4.70 1
4 Matt Leinart QB Southern Cal 6-5 223 4.90 1
5 Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt 6-3 226 4.77 1
6 *Vernon Davis TE Maryland 6-3 254 4.38 1
7 A.J. Hawk OLB Ohio State 6-1 248 4.59 1
8 *Haloti Ngata DT Oregon 6-4 338 5.13 1
9 Brodrick Bunkley DT Florida State 6-3 306 5.01 1
10 *LenDale White RB Southern Cal 6-1 238 4.49 1
faller 11 *Vince Young QB Texas 6-5 229 4.48 1
12 Michael Huff SS Texas 6-0 204 4.34 1
riser 13 Jason Allen FS Tennessee 6-1 209 4.39 1
14 Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida State 6-4 248 4.61 1
15 Tye Hill CB Clemson 5-10 185 4.34 1
faller 16 *Santonio Holmes WR Ohio State 5-11 188 4.45 1
17 *Ernie Sims OLB Florida State 5-11 231 4.50 1
18 Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech 6-3 213 4.42 1
19 *Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota 6-0 217 4.55 1
riser 20 *Chad Jackson WR Florida 6-1 213 4.32 1
21 *Winston Justice OT Southern Cal 6-6 319 5.16 1
22 *Johnathan Joseph CB South Carolina 5-11 193 4.31 1
23 *Donte Whitner SS Ohio State 5-10 204 4.40 1
24 Tamba Hali DE Penn State 6-3 275 4.75 1
faller 25 Chad Greenway OLB Iowa 6-3 242 4.76 1
26 DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis 5-09 214 4.49 1
27 Sinorice Moss WR Miami 5-08 185 4.38 1-2
28 Alan Zemaitis CB Penn State 6-1 194 4.51 1-2
29 Nick Mangold C Ohio State 6-4 300 5.05 1-2
30 Abdul Hodge ILB Iowa 6-1 236 4.76 1-2
31 Manny Lawson OLB North Carolina State 6-6 241 4.43 1-2
32 Marcus McNeill OT Auburn 6-8 336 5.07 1-2
33 Kelly Jennings CB Miami 5-11 178 4.39 1-2
34 Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia 6-4 355 5.48 1-2
35 D'Qwell Jackson ILB Maryland 6-1 230 4.73 1-2
36 *Ashton Youboty CB Ohio State 6-0 189 4.39 1-2
37 DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama 6-1 236 4.65 1-2
38 Davin Joseph OG Oklahoma 6-3 311 5.09 1-2
39 *Darnell Bing SS Southern Cal 6-2 227 4.52 1-2
40 Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA 6-7 261 4.80 1-2
41 Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College 6-6 266 4.70 1-2
42 Eric Winston OT Miami 6-7 310 4.94 1-2
43 Gabe Watson DT Michigan 6-4 339 5.27 1-2
44 Joseph Addai RB LSU 5-11 214 4.40 1-2
45 Bobby Carpenter OLB Ohio State 6-3 256 4.60 2
46 *Richard Marshall CB Fresno State 5-11 189 4.42 2
47 *Maurice Drew RB UCLA 5-07 207 4.39 2
48 Daniel Bullocks SS Nebraska 6-1 212 4.38 2
49 *Antonio Cromartie CB Florida State 6-2 208 4.47 2
50 *Ray Edwards DE Purdue 6-5 273 4.81 2
51 Mark Anderson DE Alabama 6-4 254 4.62 2
52 Babatunde Oshinowo DT Stanford 6-2 304 5.27 2
53 Taitusi Lutui OG Southern Cal 6-4 334 5.45 2
54 Daryn Colledge OT Boise State 6-5 299 5.05 2
55 Demetrius Williams WR Oregon 6-2 197 4.52 2
faller 56 Claude Wroten DT LSU 6-2 302 5.08 2
57 Travis Wilson WR Oklahoma 6-2 214 4.47 2
58 Darryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech 6-2 252 4.83 2
59 Thomas Howard OLB Texas-El Paso 6-3 239 4.42 2
faller 60 *Ko Simpson FS South Carolina 6-1 209 4.45 2
61 *John McCargo DT North Carolina State 6-2 302 5.15 2
62 *Stanley McClover DE Auburn 6-3 262 4.70 2
63 Joe Klopfenstein TE Colorado 6-6 255 4.63 2-3
64 Charles Spencer OG Pittsburgh 6-5 352 5.25 2-3
65 Gerris Wilkinson ILB Georgia Tech 6-3 233 4.66 2-3
66 Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College 6-8 316 5.25 2-3
67 Dominique Byrd TE Southern Cal 6-3 255 4.82 2-3
68 Orien Harris DT Miami 6-3 301 5.12 2-3
69 Jerious Norwood RB Mississippi State 5-11 210 4.40 2-3
70 *Leonard Pope TE Georgia 6-8 258 4.62 2-3
71 Todd Watkins WR BYU 6-3 202 4.40 2-3
72 Tim Jennings CB Georgia 5-08 185 4.32 2-3
73 Victor Adeyanju DE Indiana 6-4 274 4.86 2-3
74 Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame 6-5 217 4.57 2-3
75 *Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin 5-09 201 4.57 2-3
76 Devin Aromashodu WR Auburn 6-3 201 4.35 2-3
77 Rodrique Wright DT Texas 6-5 300 5.08 2-3
78 DeMario Minter CB Georgia 5-11 190 4.52 2-3
79 *Devin Hester WR Miami 5-11 190 4.41 2-3
80 Anwar Phillips CB Penn State 6-0 193 4.46 2-3
81 Kyle Williams DT LSU 6-1 299 5.12 2-3
82 Pat Watkins FS Florida State 6-5 211 4.42 2-3
83 Barry Cofield DT NorthWestern 6-4 304 4.95 2-3
84 *Dee Webb CB Florida 5-11 183 4.41 2-3
85 *Bernard Pollard SS Purdue 6-2 224 4.57 2-3
86 *Derek Morris OT North Carolina State 6-6 328 5.40 2-3
87 Jonathan Orr WR Wisconsin 6-2 198 4.44 3
88 Jonathan Scott OT Texas 6-7 315 5.32 3
89 Jon Alston OLB Stanford 6-1 223 4.40 3
90 Tim Dobbins ILB Iowa State 6-1 246 4.59 3
91 Cedric Griffin FS Texas 6-0 199 4.51 3
92 Michael Robinson WR Penn State 6-2 227 4.56 3
93 Jason Avant WR Michigan 6-1 212 4.52 3
94 Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma 6-3 306 5.01 3
95 *Derrick Martin CB Wyoming 5-10 202 4.50 3
96 Andre Hall RB South Florida 5-09 208 4.40 3
97 Ryan O'Callaghan OT California 6-7 344 5.39 3
faller 98 Derek Hagan WR Arizona State 6-2 208 4.45 3
99 *Danieal Manning CB Abilene Christian 5-11 202 4.48 3
100 Leon Washington RB Florida State 5-08 201 4.42 3
 

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If Gilles slips we might get him after all. I agree that he could lose some weight but unlike Watson he has never had a rep for being lazy.
Still think he would fit well on that side with the Hotel- both are massive players and Gilles has the quickness that LA no longer had.
 

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dbair1967 said:
Top 100 risers/fallers in NFL draft
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Courtesy NFLDraftScout.com / Special to FOXSports.com
Posted: 16 hours ago



Previous Top 100 risers/fallers: 3/12

Risers
Ohio State outside linebacker Bobby Carpenter, characterized by trainers as only 90 percent healthy, impressed scouts with his speed in 40 yards (4.66, 4.68) and other workouts. However, some scouts believe he has little upside potential despite looking good now.

Florida State cornerback Antonio Cromartie further erased concerns about the health of his surgically repaired left knee with times of 4.37 and 4.39 seconds in 40 yards and a 42-inch vertical jump at his March 16 Pro Day.

Oregon wide receiver Demetrius Williams helped his standing in a poor class of wide receivers with a 40-yard time of 4.46 at his Pro Day workout.

Colorado tight end Joe Klopfenstein performed well in his positional drills and clocked a 40-yard time of 4.56 at his Pro Day workout.


Fallers
Texas quarterback Vince Young received obligatory rave notices from some after his Pro Day March 22, but the reality is he didn't do anything that should improve his stock. He ran fast, in the 4.55-second area, but that wasn't news. Despite coaching by Jerry Rhome, his throwing motion and footwork is still shaky. And now that the Raiders, New Orleans, Miami, Detroit and the New York Jets have acquired free agent quarterbacks, his market is shrinking in the first round. It seems doubtful Tennessee (No. 3) will take him, leaving his best possible chances with Arizona (No. 10) and Minnesota (No. 17).

Georgia's massive guard Max Jean-Gilles is slipping down the board as teams question the dedication and stamina of the 355-pounder. At this size, Jean-Gilles doesn't project well for the smaller, quicker offensive line schemes currently preferred by many NFL clubs.

Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali also has a size problem -- in this case it's the lack of enough of it. After measuring in at 275 pounds, prototypical of the position, Hali weighed in twelve pounds lighter at the Penn State Pro Day, leaving some to question how well he'll maintain his playing weight over the course of the grueling NFL season.

Ohio State receiver Santonio Holmes has yielded his spot as the top-rated wideout in the draft to Florida's Chad Jackson amid concerns that Holmes' weight dropped significantly since the Combine. Holmes measured a solid 188 pounds in Indianapolis, but dropped to 179 when it came time to run at his Pro Day.
Oh yes, FOX Channel, the fair AND balanced ones....*snicker* They ALWAYS know what they're talking about.....:lmao2:
 

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5mics said:
Oh yes, FOX Channel, the fair AND balanced ones....*snicker* They ALWAYS know what they're talking about.....:lmao2:

Fox didn't make the list, nfldraftscout.com did. It's interesting, in that a lot of popular players aren't very highly rated here.

Thing is, you can't make plans on a player's worst rating. The people who dislike him most won't draft the guy. If the consensus shifts, then you have something to work with.
 

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Gee someone seems to have a political agenda there.....
 

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Jason Allen

Can someone give me the scoop on this guy. I honestly haven't heard much about him.
 

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Jason Allen

Can someone give me the scoop on this guy. I honestly haven't heard much about him.

He's a great player, probably would've been the top rated DB had he not had a serious hip injury during last season. He looks healed now and ran under 4.4 40 plus he has great size I think 6'2 and his forte is coverage. Played some CB and could probably play it in the NFL but could also be a probowl FS. Most similiar player is Michael Huff. Very similiar style, size, and abilities player.

His hip injury just made a lot of people forget about him. He's a great value anywhere in the second round, even moreso in the middle to later part. Will be a starter and impact player year 1 or 2.
 

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I tell you what I like about that. If you look at how they have those player rated, there are players at positions of need slotted right around where the Cowboys pick. I would love to think that Dallas would be able to pick the best player available and still fill a need at the same time.
 

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dwmyers said:
Fox didn't make the list, nfldraftscout.com did. It's interesting, in that a lot of popular players aren't very highly rated here.

Thing is, you can't make plans on a player's worst rating. The people who dislike him most won't draft the guy. If the consensus shifts, then you have something to work with.
Gotcha but it was just a little shot at FOX Channel; didn't have anything to do w/ VY and the list.:)
 

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He's a great player, probably would've been the top rated DB had he not had a serious hip injury during last season. He looks healed now and ran under 4.4 40 plus he has great size I think 6'2 and his forte is coverage. Played some CB and could probably play it in the NFL but could also be a probowl FS. Most similiar player is Michael Huff. Very similiar style, size, and abilities player.

His hip injury just made a lot of people forget about him. He's a great value anywhere in the second round, even moreso in the middle to later part. Will be a starter and impact player year 1 or 2.
So would u take him in the first
 

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My boy Jennings isnt even on the list!

hah!
Blasphemy!

He's gonna be a STEAL for someone... hopefully us.
 

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I'll tell you another guy that I think might be a good pickup. This draft is so deep at TE, it's rediculous.

You got:

Davis
Lewis
Byrd
Pope (a steal if he slips pas the 3rd IMO)
Fasano
Klopfenstein

and like 2 or 3 others but a guy nobody is talking about is Thomas from Texas.

This kid has hands. His size is adequate at 6'4 250lbs, IMO but he's a pretty decent blocker for his size. He really is an excellent short yardage receiver and while he's not exceptionally fast, his short shuttle is pretty good at 4.15. He is a perfect H-Back type. Also, he's exactly the type of player that could be a stand out ST guy. He's a pretty good long snapper as well. A team like Washington could draft this guy and turn him into a star at H-Back IMO. Somebody is going to draft him late and get a heck of a good football player IMO.
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
I'll tell you another guy that I think might be a good pickup. This draft is so deep at TE, it's rediculous.

You got:

Davis
Lewis
Byrd
Pope (a steal if he slips pas the 3rd IMO)
Fasano
Klopfenstein

and like 2 or 3 others but a guy nobody is talking about is Thomas from Texas.

This kid has hands. His size is adequate at 6'4 250lbs, IMO but he's a pretty decent blocker for his size. He really is an excellent short yardage receiver and while he's not exceptionally fast, his short shuttle is pretty good at 4.15. He is a perfect H-Back type. Also, he's exactly the type of player that could be a stand out ST guy. He's a pretty good long snapper as well. A team like Washington could draft this guy and turn him into a star at H-Back IMO. Somebody is going to draft him late and get a heck of a good football player IMO.

I like Tim Day later on.
 

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Kid from Oregon? Yeah, I've watched him play a little bit. He's interesting. He's a good receiving threat and he's pretty strong for his size. The only thing I don't like about him is the fact that he seems to get nicked up a lot. No question though, he has talent.
 
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