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1. Tampa - Jameis Winston (QB)
Team needs a QB. Winston is the best in the draft, and a north-Florida hero to boot.

2. Tennessee - Marcus Mariota (QB)
Whisenhunt likes Mettenberger, but not enough to pass on Mariota after watching him perform at the combine.

3. Jacksonville - Leonard Williams (DT)
Jags need a pass rusher and Williams brings the heat in spades, from anywhere on the DL.

4. Oakland - Amari Cooper (WR)
A lot of people think White will go before Cooper. I'm not one of them. Cooper is a superb route runner and a smooth natural pass catcher who is always right where the ball is thrown.

5. Washington - Dante Fowler (OLB)
Skins need secondary help more than anything, but five is a little high for any of the DB's in this draft. They aren't gonna take a RT, C or 3-4 DE here either, so I think it comes down to pass rush. Fowler or Gregory.

6. Jets - Kevin White (WR)
I bet the NYJ's take every second of the clock, fielding calls and deciding between Gregory and White. I think Gregory's weight and White's phenominal workout, along with the fact that the team needs an actual NFL WR for their young QB to throw to, ultimately makes this decision.

7. Chicago - Randy Gregory (OLB)
With Fangio coming in, the Bears are switching to a 3-4 scheme, and Fox has his choice of the best NT or a player who could easily be the best rush LB in the draft.

8. Atlanta - Shane Ray (DE)
The Atlanta brass can't fricking believe Shane Ray and Danny Shelton are still on the board.

9. Giants - Bud Dupree (DE)
The NYG really need to fix the OL they've been neglecting for years, but they need pass rush too and OL are easier to find than pass rushers. Besides that, Dupree's combine performance is making him look like a monster.

10. St. Louis - Brandon Scherff (OT)
The Rams need help all along the OL. Barksdale is a FA, Long is getting old and Robinson has been a little bit of an adventure on the left side. A guy like Scherff, an NFL-ready OT who can also play the interior positions would be ideal. There's a crap ton of quality tackles in this draft, though. If Fisher can't trade up for the QB, I bet he wouldn't hesitate to trade down and grab one of the uglies. I had Waynes here before, but the concensus seems to be, #10 is a bit high.

11. Minnesota - Andrus Peat (OT)
Johnson sucks and Berger is a FA, so a tackle who can step in and protect Bridgewater is the easy answer. I think Peat is probably the most ready to play, other than Scherff, but Flowers is not far behind and is a lot more powerful. Clemmings and Collins are big athletes with huge up-side, so who knows. The Vikes need a MLB too, but any of those guys would be a reach here. I think the other player who could make the Vikings think is Parker.

12. Cleveland - Danny Shelton (NT)
What a mess. At least these guys recognize their mistake, aren't too good to admit it and are looking for a QB again this year. Manziel may yet turn out to be a player, but you know the Browns had info on the kid's pot habit. You'd think, of all the teams in the league, they'd have been a little bit more wary. Speaking of weed, with Gordon suspended for the year and apparently refusing to recognize that he has an issue, the Browns are in the market for a bucket full of WR's, so Parker makes sense. Not with Shelton falling into their laps, though.

13. New Orleans - Vic Beasley (OLB)
Speaking of falling in your lap. The Saints resigned Harralson, so CB REALLY becomes the team's biggest need, and at #13 they have their pick of the lot. I don't think there's any way they'd pass on Beasley, though, not after the numbers he put up in Indy.

14. Miami - Trae Waynes (CB)
Miami seriously needs upgrades along the interior OL and Odrick is a FA, so DT is an issue, but the only position keeping the fish defense from dominance is corner. Waynes is just too good to pass up.

15. San Francisco - DeVante Parker (WR)
SF needs guys (plural) for Kapperneck to throw to, no two ways, and in a deep WR class, Parker is a stud.

16. Houston - Landon Collins (S)
Bill O'Brien is so excited that he can't hit his *** with both hands.

17. San Diego - Melvin Gordon (RB)
The Bolts resigned Dunlap and probably aren't going to address their crappy interior OL at #17. Flowers is a FA, but he'll probably be back, and there's really not a CB I can see the team taking here anyway. Ryan Mathews is a FA and Gordon/Gurley are far and away the best players on the board, so SD takes the 100% healthy one of the two.

18. Kansas City - T.J. Clemmings (OT)
I think the easy answer is to look at the least productive position group in the league and give KC Strong or Green-Beckham, but I think the problem runs deeper than that. Eric Fisher has failed miserably to live up to (any?) expectations for two years now, and the right-side combo of Harris and Stephenson was even worse than Fisher. (Their guards were at least as bad.) So while it's true that Bowe isn't a #1 guy, outside of Hudson, I'm not sure there's a starting OL on the team. Add to that my personal opinion that there's never been a more perfect Andy Reid tackle to come out of college than T.J. Clemmings, and voila!

19. Cleveland - Jaelen Strong (WR)
And the Browns get a WR. They have now filled two of their hugest needs with a couple of fantastic players. Browns are having a really good day.

20. Philadelphia - Jalen Collins (CB)
I think Philly has a lot more holes than the media would lead you to believe, on offense as well as D. IMHO, the Eagles struggles resulted in part from trying to run the K-Gun without the personnel to do it. Obviously, no one will ever mistake Nick Foles or Mark Sanchez for Jim Kelly, but the team needs help on the OL, and I think Chipper is finding it harder to replace Jackson than he thought it would be. On D, Graham is as good as gone and Trent Cole is 32, so they need to at least be thinking very strongly about OLB. But Philly's greatest need, by far, in great quantity, across the board, is DB's.

21. Cincinnati - Marcus Peters (CB)
Cinci had the fewest sacks in the NFL last year, so a DE is a na-brainer. All the past rushers I would select at #21, however, are gone. There seems to be a ton of love for Arik Armstead, though, as a pass rusher no less, which I totally do not get. So I'm going with the idea that I know more than everybody else. Peters is probably BPA at this point anyway and the Bengals love those low character guys, so. Match made in heaven.

22. Pittsburgh - Erek Flowers (OT)
Pittsburgh needs DB's badly, but I'm not sure there's a corner or safety left that anyone would touch in the first round. Keisel and Harrison are both old as rocks and Worilds is a FA, so DE and OLB are possibilities. Arik Armstead, anyone? RT wasn't an especially bright spot either, though, and Erek Flowers is an absolute monster tailor made to play the position. With him, the Pitt OL would be complete. Tails wins.

23. Detroit - Cameron Erving (OL)
The Lions have trench issues: The team is seriously hurting at RT and guard and Dominic Raiola won't be back. Cameron Erving seems like a perfect fit, right? Unfortunately, almost every DT on the team is a FA (George Johnson too), and I think they'll only be able to pay one of them, especially if his name is "Suh." If Fairley and Mosley walk, I'm not sure the Lions have a choice. Their OL sucks, though, which we know for sure, and that's not gonna change unless the players do. So Erving it is.

24. Arizona - Eli Harold (OLB)
I had Perryman here, and I still love the player, but I can't see the Cards drafting a LB who stands 5'10" and change and runs a 4.78. They need an edge rusher in the worst way, but all the top guys are gone. Shaq Thompson or Malcolm Brown may be the best healthy player on the board, but how about Gurley? The Cards like fast, athletic, disruptive defenders though (who doesn't?), so I think this may be where Eli Harold goes.

25. Carolina - Dorial Green-Beckham (WR)
Man, if it pans out this way, these guys will be heartbroken to see Flowers and Erving go two picks before they're up, and I think they'll be chomping to trade down. Most talented player on the board is DGB, who would be mighty nasty opposite Benjamin. How do you match up against a pair of highly skilled twin towers like that?

26. Baltimore - Todd Gurley (RB)
DGB would be a hellion with Flacco throwing him the ball, and I think could have really lifted this offense to another level. The team needs WR's and corners, but at this point, I think they take Gurley and run (no pun intended).

Ok...

This is the top-26 as I see it right now. OT and pass rusher look to be the strength of round one. There's a bunch of really good players on both sides of the ball who, unfortunately, I think will go in some order before we pick. That kind of worries me. After the top five pass rushers (six, if ya count Harold), there's a group of guys I really don't want to see at #27. Same for any corner not named Waynes, Peters or Collins. Gordon and Gurley are off the board, along with the top three WR's. So, what do we do?

OO looks like the next JPP, but his injury history is scary. Shaq Thompson looks good on video (it's NOT tape anymore!), but he's light for a LB in any system and not that fast. Arik Armstead gets a ton of love that I just don't understand, and he really doesn't fit a Marinelli defense anyway. The best player on the board could quite possibly be Malcolm Brown, but everybody knows Marinelli doesn't want a 1-tech in round one. Inevitibly, some team takes a player way out of left field, which would push one of these 26 guys down to us, but if my projection is close, I don't know what to think. More and more, I'm beginning to believe we'll be trading down.
 

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If it fell like that and we could not trade down, I think we take OO.
 

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If it fell like that and we could not trade down, I think we take OO.

Agree. If the Cowboys medical check on OO was good, then I can see him as the pick in many scenario's including this one.
 

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You know what, I forgot Collins. In this scenario, he goes to Carolina at #25 which means Baltimore takes DGB, leaving us with Gurley.


Lol I just figured you weren't as high on him. I think you are right, it likely would be Gurley or possibly OO. Nice job on the write up. I could see it go a lot like this, except I think Beasley goes before Gregory now.
 

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1. Tampa - Jameis Winston (QB)
Team needs a QB. Winston is the best in the draft, and a north-Florida hero to boot.

2. Tennessee - Marcus Mariota (QB)
Whisenhunt likes Mettenberger, but not enough to pass on Mariota after watching him perform at the combine.

3. Jacksonville - Leonard Williams (DT)
Jags need a pass rusher and Williams brings the heat in spades, from anywhere on the DL.

4. Oakland - Amari Cooper (WR)
A lot of people think White will go before Cooper. I'm not one of them. Cooper is a superb route runner and a smooth natural pass catcher who is always right where the ball is thrown.

5. Washington - Dante Fowler (OLB)
Skins need secondary help more than anything, but five is a little high for any of the DB's in this draft. They aren't gonna take a RT, C or 3-4 DE here either, so I think it comes down to pass rush. Fowler or Gregory.

6. Jets - Kevin White (WR)
I bet the NYJ's take every second of the clock, fielding calls and deciding between Gregory and White. I think Gregory's weight and White's phenominal workout, along with the fact that the team needs an actual NFL WR for their young QB to throw to, ultimately makes this decision.

7. Chicago - Randy Gregory (OLB)
With Fangio coming in, the Bears are switching to a 3-4 scheme, and Fox has his choice of the best NT or a player who could easily be the best rush LB in the draft.

8. Atlanta - Shane Ray (DE)
The Atlanta brass can't fricking believe Shane Ray and Danny Shelton are still on the board.

9. Giants - Bud Dupree (DE)
The NYG really need to fix the OL they've been neglecting for years, but they need pass rush too and OL are easier to find than pass rushers. Besides that, Dupree's combine performance is making him look like a monster.

10. St. Louis - Brandon Scherff (OT)
The Rams need help all along the OL. Barksdale is a FA, Long is getting old and Robinson has been a little bit of an adventure on the left side. A guy like Scherff, an NFL-ready OT who can also play the interior positions would be ideal. There's a crap ton of quality tackles in this draft, though. If Fisher can't trade up for the QB, I bet he wouldn't hesitate to trade down and grab one of the uglies. I had Waynes here before, but the concensus seems to be, #10 is a bit high.

11. Minnesota - Andrus Peat (OT)
Johnson sucks and Berger is a FA, so a tackle who can step in and protect Bridgewater is the easy answer. I think Peat is probably the most ready to play, other than Scherff, but Flowers is not far behind and is a lot more powerful. Clemmings and Collins are big athletes with huge up-side, so who knows. The Vikes need a MLB too, but any of those guys would be a reach here. I think the other player who could make the Vikings think is Parker.

12. Cleveland - Danny Shelton (NT)
What a mess. At least these guys recognize their mistake, aren't too good to admit it and are looking for a QB again this year. Manziel may yet turn out to be a player, but you know the Browns had info on the kid's pot habit. You'd think, of all the teams in the league, they'd have been a little bit more wary. Speaking of weed, with Gordon suspended for the year and apparently refusing to recognize that he has an issue, the Browns are in the market for a bucket full of WR's, so Parker makes sense. Not with Shelton falling into their laps, though.

13. New Orleans - Vic Beasley (OLB)
Speaking of falling in your lap. The Saints resigned Harralson, so CB REALLY becomes the team's biggest need, and at #13 they have their pick of the lot. I don't think there's any way they'd pass on Beasley, though, not after the numbers he put up in Indy.

14. Miami - Trae Waynes (CB)
Miami seriously needs upgrades along the interior OL and Odrick is a FA, so DT is an issue, but the only position keeping the fish defense from dominance is corner. Waynes is just too good to pass up.

15. San Francisco - DeVante Parker (WR)
SF needs guys (plural) for Kapperneck to throw to, no two ways, and in a deep WR class, Parker is a stud.

16. Houston - Landon Collins (S)
Bill O'Brien is so excited that he can't hit his *** with both hands.

17. San Diego - Melvin Gordon (RB)
The Bolts resigned Dunlap and probably aren't going to address their crappy interior OL at #17. Flowers is a FA, but he'll probably be back, and there's really not a CB I can see the team taking here anyway. Ryan Mathews is a FA and Gordon/Gurley are far and away the best players on the board, so SD takes the 100% healthy one of the two.

18. Kansas City - T.J. Clemmings (OT)
I think the easy answer is to look at the least productive position group in the league and give KC Strong or Green-Beckham, but I think the problem runs deeper than that. Eric Fisher has failed miserably to live up to (any?) expectations for two years now, and the right-side combo of Harris and Stephenson was even worse than Fisher. (Their guards were at least as bad.) So while it's true that Bowe isn't a #1 guy, outside of Hudson, I'm not sure there's a starting OL on the team. Add to that my personal opinion that there's never been a more perfect Andy Reid tackle to come out of college than T.J. Clemmings, and voila!

19. Cleveland - Jaelen Strong (WR)
And the Browns get a WR. They have now filled two of their hugest needs with a couple of fantastic players. Browns are having a really good day.

20. Philadelphia - Jalen Collins (CB)
I think Philly has a lot more holes than the media would lead you to believe, on offense as well as D. IMHO, the Eagles struggles resulted in part from trying to run the K-Gun without the personnel to do it. Obviously, no one will ever mistake Nick Foles or Mark Sanchez for Jim Kelly, but the team needs help on the OL, and I think Chipper is finding it harder to replace Jackson than he thought it would be. On D, Graham is as good as gone and Trent Cole is 32, so they need to at least be thinking very strongly about OLB. But Philly's greatest need, by far, in great quantity, across the board, is DB's.

21. Cincinnati - Marcus Peters (CB)
Cinci had the fewest sacks in the NFL last year, so a DE is a na-brainer. All the past rushers I would select at #21, however, are gone. There seems to be a ton of love for Arik Armstead, though, as a pass rusher no less, which I totally do not get. So I'm going with the idea that I know more than everybody else. Peters is probably BPA at this point anyway and the Bengals love those low character guys, so. Match made in heaven.

22. Pittsburgh - Erek Flowers (OT)
Pittsburgh needs DB's badly, but I'm not sure there's a corner or safety left that anyone would touch in the first round. Keisel and Harrison are both old as rocks and Worilds is a FA, so DE and OLB are possibilities. Arik Armstead, anyone? RT wasn't an especially bright spot either, though, and Erek Flowers is an absolute monster tailor made to play the position. With him, the Pitt OL would be complete. Tails wins.

23. Detroit - Cameron Erving (OL)
The Lions have trench issues: The team is seriously hurting at RT and guard and Dominic Raiola won't be back. Cameron Erving seems like a perfect fit, right? Unfortunately, almost every DT on the team is a FA (George Johnson too), and I think they'll only be able to pay one of them, especially if his name is "Suh." If Fairley and Mosley walk, I'm not sure the Lions have a choice. Their OL sucks, though, which we know for sure, and that's not gonna change unless the players do. So Erving it is.

24. Arizona - Eli Harold (OLB)
I had Perryman here, and I still love the player, but I can't see the Cards drafting a LB who stands 5'10" and change and runs a 4.78. They need an edge rusher in the worst way, but all the top guys are gone. Shaq Thompson or Malcolm Brown may be the best healthy player on the board, but how about Gurley? The Cards like fast, athletic, disruptive defenders though (who doesn't?), so I think this may be where Eli Harold goes.

25. Carolina - Dorial Green-Beckham (WR)
Man, if it pans out this way, these guys will be heartbroken to see Flowers and Erving go two picks before they're up, and I think they'll be chomping to trade down. Most talented player on the board is DGB, who would be mighty nasty opposite Benjamin. How do you match up against a pair of highly skilled twin towers like that?

26. Baltimore - Todd Gurley (RB)
DGB would be a hellion with Flacco throwing him the ball, and I think could have really lifted this offense to another level. The team needs WR's and corners, but at this point, I think they take Gurley and run (no pun intended).

Ok...

This is the top-26 as I see it right now. OT and pass rusher look to be the strength of round one. There's a bunch of really good players on both sides of the ball who, unfortunately, I think will go in some order before we pick. That kind of worries me. After the top five pass rushers (six, if ya count Harold), there's a group of guys I really don't want to see at #27. Same for any corner not named Waynes, Peters or Collins. Gordon and Gurley are off the board, along with the top three WR's. So, what do we do?

OO looks like the next JPP, but his injury history is scary. Shaq Thompson looks good on video (it's NOT tape anymore!), but he's light for a LB in any system and not that fast. Arik Armstead gets a ton of love that I just don't understand, and he really doesn't fit a Marinelli defense anyway. The best player on the board could quite possibly be Malcolm Brown, but everybody knows Marinelli doesn't want a 1-tech in round one. Inevitibly, some team takes a player way out of left field, which would push one of these 26 guys down to us, but if my projection is close, I don't know what to think. More and more, I'm beginning to believe we'll be trading down.

Why take Malcolm in the 1st, when we can have him in the 4th or 5th......plus why would Marinelli want a RB for his defense?
 

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Why take Malcolm in the 1st, when we can have him in the 4th or 5th......plus why would Marinelli want a RB for his defense?


Cant tell if joking or serious, so Malcolm Brown the DT by the same name from the same team. It states he is a 1T which is a Defensive tackle.
 

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I'm still running the mantra through my head take BPA and MBrown is still there.
My question is [please humor me] what draft grade # does OO and MBrown get?
Or even more far afield your willing to take a WR or and OL but no matter what
were not going to take a 1tech in the first round even if his BPA , a diffident position of need ?
Because its not a high value position? But Oh, I know we need good 1Tech?
Not clear thinking
 
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I'm still running the mantra through my head BPA and MBrown is still there.
My question is [please humor me] what draft grade # does OO and MBrown get?
Yet your willing to take a WR or and OL but no matter what were not going to take
a 1tech in the first round even if his BPA , a diffident position of need ?
Because its not a high value position? But Oh, I know we need good 1Tech?
Not clear thinking

Not my thinking. I'd take Brown in a heartbeat. I just don't think the team will. They wouldn't take an OL in the first either though, so...
 

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Not my thinking. I'd take Brown in a heartbeat. I just don't think the team will. They wouldn't take an OL in the first either though, so...

Tampa Bay drafted McFarland mid first round 1999 so I guess I'm beating the drum for
acceptance of the idea of MBrown @ 27 and there is really no cause.
If we took Gurley I'd be happy ,real happy.
 
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To be fair, I'm sure position is accounted for in grades on their board. They have publicly stated a 1T tackle isn't highly valued in Marinellis defense. Brown may be a highly rated player, but would likely have to be position flexible, or be so good he makes up for the instant accounting of 1T being devalued by the team. If hes so good he makes up for that devaluation, some other team will take him. Basically for a high pick in the draft the Cowboys will probably have a pure 1T graded somewhere from 10-15 picks lower than teams who value them more, thus making it highly unlikely a 1T is picked early. At least thats how I see/understand it.
 

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To be fair, I'm sure position is accounted for in grades on their board. They have publicly stated a 1T tackle isn't highly valued in Marinellis defense. Brown may be a highly rated player, but would likely have to be position flexible, or be so good he makes up for the instant accounting of 1T being devalued by the team. If hes so good he makes up for that devaluation, some other team will take him. Basically for a high pick in the draft the Cowboys will probably have a pure 1T graded somewhere from 10-15 picks lower than teams who value them more, thus making it highly unlikely a 1T is picked early. At least thats how I see/understand it.

What I don't understand is the mindset that determines: I do it this way. I always do it this way. I don't care how good player X is, We can't use him.
 

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Cant tell if joking or serious, so Malcolm Brown the DT by the same name from the same team. It states he is a 1T which is a Defensive tackle.

Malcolm Brown is a running back and Malcom Brown is a DT. So which one do you want, Malcolm or Malcom?
 
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