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3. Haloti Ngata, defensive tackle, Oregon

At 6-5 and 340, Ngata is massive and strong. He might be the early favorite to win the title for most bench presses at 225 pounds in the February combine. A lot of people see him as the perfect fit as a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. Scouts say he has a good burst and is the kind of powerful player who pushes blockers into the backfield at first contact. His stats haven't been mind-boggling, but he could develop into a player who commands a double team and makes surrounding players better. He also consistently improved during his time at Oregon, really breaking through last season. One thing that comes up a lot, though, is the question about his intensity. He's not a foaming-at-the-mouth kind of player and can be soft-spoken – traits that can be misperceived as a lack of passion. It hasn't shown in his play, though.

This is the player most needed.......colloapse the inside of the line and run the QB out to Ware.......then it's over.
 

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jterrell said:
The guy I'd like to see drop is Ngata.
He'd be the ideal NT here.

We'd have the best young DL in the game.

Demeko Ryans is a heck of a playmaker. He might be limited to nicker backer and ST guy in some chemes though such as ours.
I agree with you on hoping Ngata drops. If he doesn't I am looking at Bobby Carpenter or Thomas Howard to fill a need at SOLB.

I agree on Hawk being better than Greenway too. I think Demeco Ryans will go sooner than a lot of people think. If he fell he's definitely another to consider at SOLB.

I am hoping we focus on SOLB but Ngata on our DL would be too good to pass up. We could then get an SOLB or FS in the 2nd and have a young D that is set for several years.

I already want Ahmad Brooks next year. :grin:
 

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Hostile said:
I agree with you on hoping Ngata drops. If he doesn't I am looking at Bobby Carpenter or Thomas Howard to fill a need at SOLB.

I agree on Hawk being better than Greenway too. I think Demeco Ryans will go sooner than a lot of people think. If he fell he's definitely another to consider at SOLB.

I am hoping we focus on SOLB but Ngata on our DL would be too good to pass up. We could then get an SOLB or FS in the 2nd and have a young D that is set for several years.

I already want Ahmad Brooks next year. :grin:

I am worried about the youth at LB. Those guys need to diagnose plays and losing Dat and Singleton could be a big blow there. I'd rather sign a vet OLB.

Carpenter is looking like a round 2 steal at this point but BP likes his OLBs big.
Not sure if he'd go that route or not. There are a ton of playmaking OLBs to choose from.

Brooks reminds me alot of James Farrior who BP drafted. I think he is his kind of guy with the size and raw strength. Farrior is playing pretty well right now obviously in the 3-4.
 

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I'd like to know why a 4.6 40 for Hali is considered slow. The guy weighs a solid 265. If that same 40 time is expected for Ryans, who is 40 pounds lighter, then it makes no sense.

I think Hali will probably be best served playing a KGB/Packers type role, but if he ends up in Dallas I'd be thrilled. He is tenacious.

I'd still like to see the offense addressed, however.
 

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jterrell said:
I am worried about the youth at LB. Those guys need to diagnose plays and losing Dat and Singleton could be a big blow there. I'd rather sign a vet OLB.

Carpenter is looking like a round 2 steal at this point but BP likes his OLBs big.
Not sure if he'd go that route or not. There are a ton of playmaking OLBs to choose from.

Brooks reminds me alot of James Farrior who BP drafted. I think he is his kind of guy with the size and raw strength. Farrior is playing pretty well right now obviously in the 3-4.



Farrior is a VA boy too. :)
 

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jterrell said:
Brooks reminds me alot of James Farrior who BP drafted. I think he is his kind of guy with the size and raw strength. Farrior is playing pretty well right now obviously in the 3-4.

Brooks has got to be one of the more overhyped players in college football right now...the guy hardly made any plays all yr and the games I saw him play he actually looked kinda fat

Farrior was a playmaker at UVA, Brooks has not been a game in and game out playmaker

David
 

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This will all be much clearer once FA starts and we start to sign some of them. Then our needs will be more evident. I think LB will be our 1st pick. We need more than one of them one will come through free agency and the other through the draft.
 

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OFFENSIVE LINE AT 18!!!!...
or if there's one available there, a gatorade maintenance boy!


I would ALMOST guarantee that we won't take a o-lineman at 18.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
I would ALMOST guarantee that we won't take a o-lineman at 18.
Unless Ferguson for some ungodly reason drops I'd bet you're right.


Ferguson is so amazingly athletic. Reminds me a young Larry Allen.

I'd be quite ok trading down a few spots though and snagging Jonathon Scott.

It'll be hard for BP tho to pass up the LBs and safeties. He can sense being close to creating a dominating defense IMHO.
 

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jterrell said:
Unless Ferguson for some ungodly reason drops I'd bet you're right.


Ferguson is so amazingly athletic. Reminds me a young Larry Allen.

I'd be quite ok trading down a few spots though and snagging Jonathon Scott.

It'll be hard for BP tho to pass up the LBs and safeties. He can sense being close to creating a dominating defense IMHO.

Hey I like Ferguson... I like you, don't think he'll be there at 18.

A trade down wouldn't shock me either.
 
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