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How'd they get the camera inside my car? I told those people who were screaming to shut up. It disturbs my Formula 1 dementia.
 

vta

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Does it eventually smash into something?
And does free a guy of murder charges?
 

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vta;3296829 said:
Does it eventually smash into something?
And does free a guy of murder charges?

Or...can you just put it in natural and turn the key off and walk away unharmed.

Or is it mandatory that you forget everything you learned in drivers ed and smash into a brick wall and burst into flames killing yourself to have your surviving family members sue the car company because you were too stupid to save yourself?
 

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Well damn, if I knew Toyota was making cars that moved and handled like that I would have bought one a long time ago.
 

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jman;3296914 said:
Or...can you just put it in natural and turn the key off and walk away unharmed.

Or is it mandatory that you forget everything you learned in drivers ed and smash into a brick wall and burst into flames killing yourself to have your surviving family members sue the car company because you were too stupid to save yourself?

Maybe you should go READ the reports from the people that testified, in front of congress, that that had NO affect, before you make yourself look like even more of a d-bag?
 

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DallasCowpoke;3296985 said:
Maybe you should go READ the reports from the people that testified, in front of congress, that that had NO affect, before you make yourself look like even more of a d-bag?

http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/2138024.page

That advice they're giving about shifting your out of control Toyota into neutral may not work. The following is testimony by Rhonda Smith before congress:

I merged over into the second lane. Not going into passing gear. At this time, I lost all control of the acceleration of the vehicle. The car goes into passing gear and the cruise light comes on at this time. I’m thinking that maybe the cruise is what caused the car to keep accelerating, as my foot is not on the gas pedal.
I take off the cruise control, but the car continues to accelerate. To make a long story short, I put the car into all available gears including neutral, but then I put it in reverse and it remains in reverse as the car speeds to over 100 mph down the interstate.

I place both feet on the brake after I firmly engage the emergency brake and nothing slows the car.

I figure the car is going to go its maximum speed and I was going to have to put the car into the upcoming guard rail in order to prevent killing anyone else, and I prayed for god to help me.

I called my husband on the blue tooth phone system.

I knew … [pauses to keep from crying] I’m sorry.

I knew he could not help me but I wanted to hear his voice one more time.

After 6 miles God intervened as the car came very slowly to a stop. I pulled it to the left median. With the car stopped and both feet still on the brake, the motor still revved up and down. At 35 mph it would not shut off. Finally, at 33 mph, I was able to turn the engine off.

After my husband arrived, he found nothing unusual about the accelerator or the floor mats, but the strange thing was that the dash lights and the radio were still on.

After the wrecker arrived, we gave the vehicle fob to the wrecker driver. When he hooked the car and prepared to winch it on to the back, he asked my husband to put the car in neutral so he could start the winch.

The driver was standing 20 to 25 feet away at the controls. Without thinking, my husband sat down in the car without the key fob and was able to shift the car into neutral, which he shouldn’t have been able to do. When he did that the car actually tried to start itself.
 

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joseephuss;3297178 said:
The driver was standing 20 to 25 feet away at the controls. Without thinking, my husband sat down in the car without the key fob and was able to shift the car into neutral, which he shouldn’t have been able to do. When he did that the car actually tried to start itself.

That whole testimony is scary as ****.
This last bit sounds like Stephen Kings 'Christine' come to life.
 

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DallasCowpoke;3296985 said:
Maybe you should go READ the reports from the people that testified, in front of congress, that that had NO affect, before you make yourself look like even more of a d-bag?

Give me an engineers report...please.
 

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jman;3297249 said:
Give me an engineers report...please.

Yeah, because Toyota's President prostrating himself before congress and offering multiple apologies, admitting fault and spending $2 Billion in recalls, isn't proof enough the car maker is at fault.
 

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jman;3297249 said:
Give me an engineers report...please.

There isn't one that we can see yet. That is why it is too early to jump to any conclusions right now. Whether you think it is mechanical problems, electrical problems, computer problems, problems with the people doing the driving or a combination of any of the same.
 

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joseephuss;3297178 said:
http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/cartalk/posts/list/2138024.page

That advice they're giving about shifting your out of control Toyota into neutral may not work. The following is testimony by Rhonda Smith before congress:

I merged over into the second lane. Not going into passing gear. At this time, I lost all control of the acceleration of the vehicle. The car goes into passing gear and the cruise light comes on at this time. I’m thinking that maybe the cruise is what caused the car to keep accelerating, as my foot is not on the gas pedal.
I take off the cruise control, but the car continues to accelerate. To make a long story short, I put the car into all available gears including neutral, but then I put it in reverse and it remains in reverse as the car speeds to over 100 mph down the interstate.

I place both feet on the brake after I firmly engage the emergency brake and nothing slows the car.

I figure the car is going to go its maximum speed and I was going to have to put the car into the upcoming guard rail in order to prevent killing anyone else, and I prayed for god to help me.

I called my husband on the blue tooth phone system.

I knew … [pauses to keep from crying] I’m sorry.

I knew he could not help me but I wanted to hear his voice one more time.

After 6 miles God intervened as the car came very slowly to a stop. I pulled it to the left median. With the car stopped and both feet still on the brake, the motor still revved up and down. At 35 mph it would not shut off. Finally, at 33 mph, I was able to turn the engine off.

After my husband arrived, he found nothing unusual about the accelerator or the floor mats, but the strange thing was that the dash lights and the radio were still on.

After the wrecker arrived, we gave the vehicle fob to the wrecker driver. When he hooked the car and prepared to winch it on to the back, he asked my husband to put the car in neutral so he could start the winch.

The driver was standing 20 to 25 feet away at the controls. Without thinking, my husband sat down in the car without the key fob and was able to shift the car into neutral, which he shouldn’t have been able to do. When he did that the car actually tried to start itself.

I'm no mechanic, but can the foot brake, the emergency brake, and putting the car into neutral all fail at the same time?

Plus, I love my wife, .. but if my car is zooming out of control at 100 mph, while I am slamming on the foot brake, pulling on the emergency brake, turning off the cruise and putting the car into neutral, I will not be calling her at that moment.

That may not sound very romantic, but that's just me.
 

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WV Cowboy;3297407 said:
I'm no mechanic, but can the foot brake, the emergency brake, and putting the car into neutral all fail at the same time?

Plus, I love my wife, .. but if my car is zooming out of control at 100 mph, while I am slamming on the foot brake, pulling on the emergency brake, turning off the cruise and putting the car into neutral, I will not be calling her at that moment.

That may not sound very romantic, but that's just me.

I don't know the answers to your questions. That is the point. No one knows the answers right now. It is premature to just say it is operator error because they should have shifted into neutral or turned the engine off. It is also too early to say that Toyota has actual problems. This whole thing is going to take a while to get settled.
 

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joseephuss;3297419 said:
I don't know the answers to your questions. That is the point. No one knows the answers right now. It is premature to just say it is operator error because they should have shifted into neutral or turned the engine off. It is also too early to say that Toyota has actual problems. This whole thing is going to take a while to get settled.

I think Toyota has an issue that they need to address and correct, but this whole thing has been way over-blown, IMO.
 

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WV Cowboy;3297430 said:
I think Toyota has an issue that they need to address and correct, but this whole thing has been way over-blown, IMO.

What isn't over-blown these days?
 

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WV Cowboy;3297430 said:
I think Toyota has an issue that they need to address and correct, but this whole thing has been way over-blown, IMO.

Well people have died because of this. I know of one guy in prison who claims his Toyota accelerated and thats why he killed the people.
 
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