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This is really for X's and O's nerd. There are some clips for example in the article.




When Michael Vick signed with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, Andy Reid had an idea.

“Part of the rationale was that he wanted to essentially bring a new offense into the NFL,” Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time, told me. “Take the spread offense that was in college, merge it with the traditional West Coast offense, and create an offense that was very tough to stop.”

The process for Reid started with the famously mobile QB. Although Vick ran the ball exceptionally for the Eagles, he also didn’t start a spread revolution around the league. But now, almost 10 years later, Reid’s pursuit of a new offense has finally paid off: It is the defining tactical feature of this NFL season. The Chiefs offense combines the countless options of spread plays with the quick-passing game of the West Coast offense that Reid is a disciple of, and the result has been, well, awesome. It’s not just the Chiefs, either. In November, when Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said that the Philadelphia Eagles were a “college offense” that had borrowed liberally from Kansas City, he wasn’t talking trash. He’d pinpointed the trend of the season.




https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread
 
This is really for X's and O's nerd. There are some clips for example in the article.




When Michael Vick signed with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, Andy Reid had an idea.

“Part of the rationale was that he wanted to essentially bring a new offense into the NFL,” Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time, told me. “Take the spread offense that was in college, merge it with the traditional West Coast offense, and create an offense that was very tough to stop.”

The process for Reid started with the famously mobile QB. Although Vick ran the ball exceptionally for the Eagles, he also didn’t start a spread revolution around the league. But now, almost 10 years later, Reid’s pursuit of a new offense has finally paid off: It is the defining tactical feature of this NFL season. The Chiefs offense combines the countless options of spread plays with the quick-passing game of the West Coast offense that Reid is a disciple of, and the result has been, well, awesome. It’s not just the Chiefs, either. In November, when Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said that the Philadelphia Eagles were a “college offense” that had borrowed liberally from Kansas City, he wasn’t talking trash. He’d pinpointed the trend of the season.




https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread
Thanks for sharing I know the article is not for most zoners.
 
This is really for X's and O's nerd. There are some clips for example in the article.




When Michael Vick signed with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, Andy Reid had an idea.

“Part of the rationale was that he wanted to essentially bring a new offense into the NFL,” Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time, told me. “Take the spread offense that was in college, merge it with the traditional West Coast offense, and create an offense that was very tough to stop.”

The process for Reid started with the famously mobile QB. Although Vick ran the ball exceptionally for the Eagles, he also didn’t start a spread revolution around the league. But now, almost 10 years later, Reid’s pursuit of a new offense has finally paid off: It is the defining tactical feature of this NFL season. The Chiefs offense combines the countless options of spread plays with the quick-passing game of the West Coast offense that Reid is a disciple of, and the result has been, well, awesome. It’s not just the Chiefs, either. In November, when Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said that the Philadelphia Eagles were a “college offense” that had borrowed liberally from Kansas City, he wasn’t talking trash. He’d pinpointed the trend of the season.




https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread
Sorry but the Cowboys are about basic fundamental football. New fangled schemes are for pansies, we are about imposing our will on other teams.
 
Given that success, it seems certain that we’ll see even more of these plays in NFL playbooks next year. Or maybe not.

“We’ve got a bunch of dinosaurs in most of the coaching positions in the league,” Banner said. He remembers former Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson in the early 2000s wondering why every team wasn’t using more of the zone blitz —something that’s now become widespread. At the time, it was used by only a handful of innovative teams. “Of course, it sounds silly now” that other teams weren’t doing it, Banner said. “People learn that these plays work.”


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This is really for X's and O's nerd. There are some clips for example in the article.




When Michael Vick signed with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, Andy Reid had an idea.

“Part of the rationale was that he wanted to essentially bring a new offense into the NFL,” Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time, told me. “Take the spread offense that was in college, merge it with the traditional West Coast offense, and create an offense that was very tough to stop.”

The process for Reid started with the famously mobile QB. Although Vick ran the ball exceptionally for the Eagles, he also didn’t start a spread revolution around the league. But now, almost 10 years later, Reid’s pursuit of a new offense has finally paid off: It is the defining tactical feature of this NFL season. The Chiefs offense combines the countless options of spread plays with the quick-passing game of the West Coast offense that Reid is a disciple of, and the result has been, well, awesome. It’s not just the Chiefs, either. In November, when Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said that the Philadelphia Eagles were a “college offense” that had borrowed liberally from Kansas City, he wasn’t talking trash. He’d pinpointed the trend of the season.




https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread
Meanwhile, Garrett is tying to make Dak Prescott be Troy Aikman.

Vick had one good season in Philly out of 5, and his record as a starter was 20-20. This wasn't a magical transformation that made Vick and Philly great.
 
Surprised they didn't mention Pederson.

He uses a lot of Reid principles.
 
The spread is rampant in Texas high school football, and some of the best receivers, DB's, and QB's in college have grown up in that system.

I've heard traditionalists say that it's "gimmicky", but the spread is complex, has multiple options, is difficult to defend, is fun to watch, and it works.
 
Vick had one good season in Philly out of 5, and his record as a starter was 20-20. This wasn't a magical transformation that made Vick and Philly great.

No one said it was. The point was innovation. Some teams are looking for new and creative ways to win while Dallas is stuck in the mid 90s with poor coaches, outdated schemes, and players that don’t fit. That was the point, not that Philly was great with Vick at QB.
 
No one said it was. The point was innovation. Some teams are looking for new and creative ways to win while Dallas is stuck in the mid 90s with poor coaches, outdated schemes, and players that don’t fit. That was the point, not that Philly was great with Vick at QB.

We are lauding innovation that didn't work? When McNAbb left, and Vick became the QB the team went downhill the next 2-3 years, and didn't pick back up until Vick got benched and Foles took over the reigns
 
Meanwhile, Andy Reid has never won a Super Bowl and has had several less-than-successful seasons.

His teams are usually good in September, but not so much in December.
 
We are lauding innovation that didn't work? When McNAbb left, and Vick became the QB the team went downhill the next 2-3 years, and didn't pick back up until Vick got benched and Foles took over the reigns

Did you even read it. That was the beginning of what Reid envisioned and has built in KC. Did you see them play this weekend? It’s not about that one season in philly. It’s about new ideas and innovation on offense.
 
Meanwhile, Andy Reid has never won a Super Bowl and has had several less-than-successful seasons.

His teams are usually good in September, but not so much in December.

What about Doug Pederson and the Patriots?
 
This is really for X's and O's nerd. There are some clips for example in the article.




When Michael Vick signed with the Philadelphia Eagles in 2009, Andy Reid had an idea.

“Part of the rationale was that he wanted to essentially bring a new offense into the NFL,” Joe Banner, who was the Eagles’ president at the time, told me. “Take the spread offense that was in college, merge it with the traditional West Coast offense, and create an offense that was very tough to stop.”

The process for Reid started with the famously mobile QB. Although Vick ran the ball exceptionally for the Eagles, he also didn’t start a spread revolution around the league. But now, almost 10 years later, Reid’s pursuit of a new offense has finally paid off: It is the defining tactical feature of this NFL season. The Chiefs offense combines the countless options of spread plays with the quick-passing game of the West Coast offense that Reid is a disciple of, and the result has been, well, awesome. It’s not just the Chiefs, either. In November, when Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said that the Philadelphia Eagles were a “college offense” that had borrowed liberally from Kansas City, he wasn’t talking trash. He’d pinpointed the trend of the season.




https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...e-andy-reid-kansas-city-chiefs-college-spread

The easiest way to fix the Cowboys offense. Look up film on what Dak did best in Ole' Miss and implement those plays. Stop trying to make Dak a pocket passer. It won't work.
 
Vick had one good season in Philly out of 5, and his record as a starter was 20-20. This wasn't a magical transformation that made Vick and Philly great.


However, I commend the Eagles for trying something different. Its better than trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Heck, we shouldn't be talking - The Eagles right now are superbowl champs. And we lost to Carolina failing to score double digits.
 
That's why I want Art Briles. I've never been a fan of Baylor but this dude can coach football. I've been following him since his days at Stephenville. He would change everything overnight IMO.
 
Just highlights how behind the times our offense is. We are drafting guys like Bo in the 7th when there are players like Phillip Lindsay out there who could of came in and given this offense a legit receiving threat out of the back field.

What better way to supplement losing Dez and Witten then with a RB who is a mismatch in the passing game? Instead we bring in a 4th bigger, power back.

It has to be an advantage when scouting players as well.
 
Meanwhile, Andy Reid has never won a Super Bowl and has had several less-than-successful seasons.

His teams are usually good in September, but not so much in December.
Belichek, Tom Brady and the Patriots run a spread formation type offense. How many SBs have they won?
 

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