Trade or not to trade, that is the question

[J-man]

I agree

Certainly would depend on who is on your board, however, I might consider a late teens drop back to get that 4th back. That could easily fill the RB need.

I agree, again depending on who is available at 12. But I also think a small trade down in rd 2 may net you the same thing.

 

[J-man]

Only way I see that happening is, if we get a RB in round 1.

Why do you say that? Why only a RB in rd 1?
There will be plenty of good options at RB that will be available in the first several rds. This class is very deep. That's one of the reason you can trade down a bit, because you can wait to take your RB with the extra pick you get.
If you can get a trade partner that is.

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree

I agree, again depending on who is available at 12. But I also think a small trade down in rd 2 may net you the same thing.

You could do either, question is, will they have a prospect that can ill afford to miss out on?

 

[gtb1943]

I wonder sometimes if some of you actually read the post before you comment?

The whole point of this post is get some of you fans who want to "trade back no matter what", or "trading down is the best choice" to realize that it just may not be possible to do it. It could come to pass that there may not be anyone willing to trade up, at least not for any compensation worth passing on a top prospect. Sure you will always get trade offers, but will they be worth squat?

I'm not here to say that I wouldn't trade back, because I would love to drop back a few spots and land another early rd pick. But what I'm trying to relay to y'all is that I'm not very confident that option will be available to them this year.

as thin as the real first rd talent is, very possible that there is no good offer when our turn comes

 

[JPostSam]

there is no one in this entire draft who would make this team a contender this year. no one.

we have way too many spots to fill or improve to sit pat with what we have in current draft capital.

unless, you know, you’re okay with incremental
improvement over 4 or 5 years.

but you don’t pay dak all that money during those same years, for that.

(well, maybe the joneses do, but not folks who actually want to win now.)

 

[Chasing6]

Why do you say that? Why only a RB in rd 1?
There will be plenty of good options at RB that will be available in the first several rds. This class is very deep. That's one of the reason you can trade down a bit, because you can wait to take your RB with the extra pick you get.
If you can get a trade partner that is.

We will end up in the same position as last year thinking their will be running backs available and then their are not available.

 

[J-man]

We will end up in the same position as last year thinking their will be running backs available and then their are not available.

only if they're stupid, they know they need one and I think they will pull the trigger by rd 3

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

I love the plan B option of moving down in round 2 to get that 4th, nobody's really said that on here!! I've been on record that i'm dying to see us get a 4th round pick back by whatever means!!!

That's not how they would look at it unless there was a group of prospects they were targeting there.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

We will end up in the same position as last year thinking their will be running backs available and then their are not available.

There will be running backs available later rounds. A lot of which would have went a lot higher last year. But if you wait too late, you might have to double dip to get the same skill sets you might be able to find in one player in the early rounds.

 

[DFWJC]

Certainly would depend on who is on your board, however, I might consider a late teens drop back to get that 4th back. That could easily fill the RB need.

Dropping from 12th overall to late teens gets you a 3rd AND a 4th.

If you meant 2nd round...yes!
You could drop in the 2nd round from 44 to 50 or 51 and get that 4th

Willing trade partner needed, of course.

 

[GuitarBytes]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

if Ashton Jeanty or T-Mac are not available at pick 12, the smartest thing to do would be to trade down, for example, to pick 18 or even 20 to secure more picks, with the possibility of even getting a second one in a pick exchange to have two second picks and be able to select RB Omarion first, and in the 2nd round be able to select WR Tre Harris and with the second pick of the 2nd round select the best DT or CB available, and I think that with these two players the offense would improve a lot and the defense with the extra 2nd round pick.

 

[J-man]

if Ashton Jeanty or T-Mac are not available at pick 12, the smartest thing to do would be to trade down, for example, to pick 18 or even 20 to secure more picks, with the possibility of even getting a second one in a pick exchange to have two second picks and be able to select RB Omarion first, and in the 2nd round be able to select WR Tre Harris and with the second pick of the 2nd round select the best DT or CB available, and I think that with these two players the offense would improve a lot and the defense with the extra 2nd round pick.

I agree 100%, but the point is that you have to have a team wanting to give up their premium picks to come get someone they love. And there just aren't many of those types of players in this draft so finding that team will be the hard part.

 

[Creeper]

I like trading down if there is a trading partner willing to give us value for the trade. I would not trade down just to get out of the 12th spot and take less than equal value for doing so.

It's funny, reading all the draft analysis, it sounds like 25 guys will be gone by the 12th pick, and 75 will be gone by 44. The reality is someone has to be available when the Cowboys pick and as much as I would love to trade down a bit for another 3rd or even 2nd, no matter how the top of the draft goes, there will be a player the Cowboys can use dropping to 12.

And honestly, does position matter? The Cowboys roster is a who's who of NFL JAGs. CB, Edge, OL, RB, WR, DT, LB are all positions of need. It will be impossible Dallas will not have a shot at the best player at one of those positions.

To me, the key to this draft is 44. This is where the Cowboys historically mess up but must hit a home run in 2025.

 

[rambo2]

The trade back debate is in full swing and I understand why. It definitely could be very helpful.

If you feel like you can't get the couple of really good players, that fit our biggest needs, to fall to us at 12 and anyone else you take there will basically be the same caliber of player as you can get a bit later in the round. So in theory getting 2 good players that fit the needs list, is better than getting just 1 good player or 1 great player that you didn't really want/need. Makes total sense.

But, y'all need to remember that you have to have a trade partner to make that happen. And I personally just don't see a lot of teams willing to move up this year. Maybe, like if S Sanders does fall he could generate some movement. But other than an over rated QB, who is so good that teams want to give up premium draft capital for? I mean basically the majority of them are all 2nd rd graded players, right? And you think teams will give up their 1s and 2s to get one of these guys? I don't.

I'd be more inclined to trade back a few spots in Rd 2 and try to get a 4th rd pick back. Then maybe try to put together a package to get another 3rd or 4th rd pick somehow. If you want several good players to fill our holes than this is the better option IMO.

And TBH, it just seems a bit odd to me when the talent in this draft is so thin up the top with only 12-15 1st rd graded players, yet so many fans want to trade away from one of these very few, possibly great, actual highly talented 1st rd graded players. IMHO, this team needs help all over the field so almost any position you take will be a good fit for the team. Within reason of course. i.e. I'm not drafting a QB or a kicker at 12. But you can make an argument that just about any other spot on the field could use help. Even if it's redundant help like taking another top flight edge rusher, or spending the capital on another OT. It may not be what we want or need the most, but it will help the team get better.

They can trade back from 12 and take Hampton or Emeka Egbuka and get a pick higher than the 4th rounder that they traded for Mingo.

 

[rambo2]

We will end up in the same position as last year thinking their will be running backs available and then their are not available.

There will be backs available at 76. Guys like Bhayshal Tuten and Damien Martinez.

 

[big dog cowboy]

We will end up in the same position as last year thinking their will be running backs available and then their are not available.

But there were backs available when the Cowboys were on the clock last year. There will be even more this year.

 

[J-man]

They can trade back from 12 and take Hampton or Emeka Egbuka and get a pick higher than the 4th rounder that they traded for Mingo.

Maybe and I believe me I wouldn't be opposed to it at all. But that can only happen if they get a team willing to give up the draft capital. But for whom would they be willing to do so is the question?
I'm sorry but you cannot just say "they can trade back and do whatever." When the reality is that they may never get the chance to do so in a draft with so few true blue chip players available.

If the draft is deep in talent then wouldn't every team want as many picks as possible? Why give them up for basically the same players they can get if they stay put? The answer is they won't, unless it's for a top flight player they feel that they must have. And there lies the problem. If there just aren't any available, why would they give up their picks?
Again, depending on who is available at 12, I hope they can trade back and add a good pick, but I am not counting on that to be a given option.

 

[rambo2]

Maybe and I believe me I wouldn't be opposed to it at all. But that can only happen if they get a team willing to give up the draft capital. But for whom would they be willing to do so is the question?
I'm sorry but you cannot just say "they can trade back and do whatever." When the reality is that they may never get the chance to do so in a draft with so few true blue chip players available.

If the draft is deep in talent then wouldn't every team want as many picks as possible? Why give them up for basically the same players they can get if they stay put? The answer is they won't, unless it's for a top flight player they feel that they must have. And there lies the problem. If there just aren't any available, why would they give up their picks?
Again, depending on who is available at 12, I hope they can trade back and add a good pick, but I am not counting on that to be a given option.

They can trade back.