Trade Romo to the Saints

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wileedog said:
What I would do is irrelevant.

To me the Saints letting their 5 year starter go in a season when they have a top 3 draft pick coming up and then hiring a head coach whose main selling point is his ability to work with QBs adds up to drafting him (or Young).

Not to mention Saints fans would lose their ****** minds if NO drafted an OT in the first and then traded a 2nd for an undrafted QB who has never thrown a pass. The PR hit would be horrible for a team that needs absolutely nothing less than a horrible PR hit.

Personally from a logical standpoint I don't have a big issue with your plan - I'm not a big Leinert fan either (or Young for that matter). I just don't see any way it happens.

Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

So my guess is if it were up to him, he would choose Leinart over Young.

If I were an NFL GM, I would not pick either of these guys in the top 10. I really don't think there is a good enough chance that either of them will be elite in the NFL to give them a top-10 QB signing bonus.

OTOH, Ferguson looks like a potential perennial All-Pro at LT and those guys come along about every 5 years or so.
 

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Eskimo said:
Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

but by all accounts, ROmo is a mobile QB, in fact some compare him to a poor man's Brett Favre, well at least on here anyways
 

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Eskimo said:
Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

So my guess is if it were up to him, he would choose Leinart over Young.

Agree 100%.

If I were an NFL GM, I would not pick either of these guys in the top 10. I really don't think there is a good enough chance that either of them will be elite in the NFL to give them a top-10 QB signing bonus.

OTOH, Ferguson looks like a potential perennial All-Pro at LT and those guys come along about every 5 years or so.

Again, not arguing what the smart move is.

Payton is not being given GM duties with the Saints. Their moves thus far point at them wanting a top QB, and as you say above they have probably already discussed with Payton which one he would prefer - and I doubt Romo was on the choices list.

I'll be very, very surprised if they don't draft Leinart.
 

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summerisfunner said:
but by all accounts, ROmo is a mobile QB, in fact some compare him to a poor man's Brett Favre, well at least on here anyways

I guess it depends on your defintion of mobile. If you mean a guy who can slide to avoid the rush, Romo can do that.

However, if you mean guys like Vick, Culpepper and McNabb - he doesn't compare to those guys' ability to create plays with their feet.
 

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Eskimo said:
I guess it depends on your defintion of mobile. If you mean a guy who can slide to avoid the rush, Romo can do that.

However, if you mean guys like Vick, Culpepper and McNabb - he doesn't compare to those guys' ability to create plays with their feet.

Romo can move around, he's no Mike Vick, but he's not exactly immobile, he likes to scramble and get out of the pocket
 

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'Mo - it's a good idea since as you say, Romo has very little chance of any playing time in the near future, barring injury. I'm sure Romo is getting inpatient and having an opportunity to continue on an offense he's familiar with is win-win situation.

But I've got my reservations on this scenario since the organization announcing Henson will be sent to Europe.

Nonetheless, I think it could be a good situation for all parties.
 

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BadKarma said:
'Mo - it's a good idea since as you say, Romo has very little chance of any playing time in the near future, barring injury. I'm sure Romo is getting inpatient and having an opportunity to continue on an offense he's familiar with is win-win situation.

But I've got my reservations on this scenario since the organization announcing Henson will be sent to Europe.

Nonetheless, I think it could be a good situation for all parties.

It makes too much sense for it to actually happen, of course.

As WD has pointed out, the likely choice is Leinart. Payton's job will be to develop Leinart into an NFL star. I am not liking his chances of success.
 

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Eskimo said:
It was rumoured during the 2004 TC after Quincy had been given his walking papers.

I can't give you a specific source but perhaps others here will remember those statements being bandied about.

Cool.

Never heard that one.

- Mike G.
 

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How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.
 

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KWMIKE said:
How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.

:lmao: :lmao2: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

oh, you were serious about that?
 

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KWMIKE said:
How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.

This is a more lopsided trade than the one I am suggesting.

I would certainly take it if it were offered, though. Heck, I'd throw in our second round pick, too.

However, the pick should be Ferguson, not Young.
 

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Hiero said:
Theyre going to draft Leinart.
I don't doubt this. However, having Romo who is very familiar with Payton's offense would accelerate Leinart's maturation if he were to be drafted by the Saints.

They get Romo, we get Darren Howard. :eek:hboy:
 

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BadKarma said:
I don't doubt this. However, having Romo who is very familiar with Payton's offense would accelerate Leinart's maturation if he were to be drafted by the Saints.

They get Romo, we get Darren Howard. :eek:hboy:

Howard had a bad year and is going to be a FA this offseason - if we want him there is no point in trading for him. It will only require cash. I don't think he fits our new 3-4 scheme anyway.
 

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Saints want to give us a #2 for Romo - we'll listen. Anything less go pound water.

Howard!:lmao: Let it Die. Dude was suspended and sent home last year, is vastly overpaid and underperforms. Not a need and or fit.
 

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Romo over a chance to draft Leinart or Young. I've definitely heard it all now. He'll be fired before the season starts for mentioning something as silly.
 

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summerisfunner said:
Romo can move around, he's no Mike Vick, but he's not exactly immobile, he likes to scramble and get out of the pocket


Summer - what basis do you use to make that blanket statement?


I've only seen Romo - and what I have seen is a classic pocket passer who likes to get the ball out decisevly and quick. Good arm strength, touch and accuracy. Ihave not seen or read about this "likes to scramble" you speak of. Please expand on your statement.

Thanks!
 

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Eskimo said:
Since Payton has always been in love with Romo maybe he'll pull a Holmgren and make an offer for his backup QB. Since we turned down a third rounder from the Jets, that would mean a 2nd rounder from the Saints?

That would allow the Saints to take a non-QB with their 1st rounder and avoid the growing pains and risk of developing a young QB (?Leinart/Young). They could use that pick on another impact player (D'Brickshaw Ferguson).

Cowboys could then sign a vet to play backup next year while Henson learns in NFL Europe.

I don't think there is anyway that NO passes on Leinart or Young and sitting at #3 one of those guys will be there. I don't think Payton is that stupid to put his 1st chance as a HC in the hands of Tony Romo.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I don't think there is anyway that NO passes on Leinart or Young and sitting at #3 one of those guys will be there. I don't think Payton is that stupid to put his 1st chance as a HC in the hands of Tony Romo.

He is a guy that he knows and has worked with for the past three years. Payton is known as a QB guru and if he likes Romo the Saints GM would have to take his opinion quite seriously. If Payton does try to acquire Romo it will prove the Romo-lovers on the site correct - it would be a very telling statement.
 
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