Trade up for Green Bay's pick?

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Tass said:
Our 1st, 3rd and next year's 1st to move up and draft Hawk? What do you think?

you don't give up that much to get a LB as good as he maybe. our defense was top 10 last year. carpenter or lawson of wimbley will make it a top 5. so will hawk. if we give up that much it should be to go after VY or Cutler or Lienhart.
 

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Tass said:
I concede your point, but Hawk looks like the best LB prospect to come along in 20 years. I guess we'll know in 3 or 4 years if he would have been worth it.

I think they said that about Brian Bosworth, the next Dick Butkis.......and we seen what happened with him.
 

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Throw Walker into that trade scenerio as an added bonus for us, then I'd be for it, but only then. Then I'm not sure I wouldn't turn right around trade back down in the draft. For a 5 Denver might be willing to give up their two 1's this year and next years for that.
 

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The only scenario I would consider trading up is if a surefire impact player drops to about #9 or #10.

Dallas #18 pick = 900 points
Dallas #49 pick = 410 points

The toal of these two picks is 1310 points.

The #10 pick = 1300 points
The #9 pick = 1350 points

So basically for the cost of a first and second pick we could move into the top 10 of the draft. The only reason I support doing this is our annual habit of picking a bust in the latter part of the first round and the second round. Our track record has been much, much better in the top 10.

Need some proof - here are our last picks in the top 11 (to include Ware):

DeMarcus Ware
Terrence Newman
Roy Williams
Greg Ellis

Here are our picks in the latter half of the first round over the last several years:

Marcus Spears
Shante Carver

Here are our second round picks:

Kevin Burnett
Julius Jones
Jacob Rogers
Al Johnson
Antonio Bryant
Andre Gurode
Quincy Carter
Tony Dixon
Dwayne Goodrich
Soloman Page
Flozell Adams


It looks to me like we seem to get more bang for the buck trading up here if there is a player who falls to #10 that we really, really like. We have consistently demonstrated an inability to find good talent later on in the upper two rounds of the draft.

To put it in more concrete terms, who would you rather have: Demarcus Ware or Marcus Spears and Kevin Burnett.

The player that I am looking at who I think could fall and would be a dynamite player in a 3-4 defense is Ngata. I don't think he would get by Cleveland and Crennel.
 

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Tass said:
I concede your point, but Hawk looks like the best LB prospect to come along in 20 years. I guess we'll know in 3 or 4 years if he would have been worth it.

Lavar Arrington was supposed to be the best LB since Lawrence Taylor, and we know how that turned out...
 

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AsthmaField said:
The only way I could see us ending up with Hawk (which I would love to), is if he slides somehow and is sitting there at like pick #11... something like that. That wouldn't require that terribly much to trade up to. If Parcells and company like him enough to trade up 7 spots or so... then I wouldn't be upset about it.

I could see him sliding a little too. LB's usually tend to slide a little beyond what they're ability says. Although he'd never make it past Cleveland, I doubt. Don't they pick 12th?

good point, remember Derrick Johnson? although I believe Hawk is regarded as a better prospect
 

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Besides, Hawk may be moved to ILB and we already have a plethora of ILB competitors. We need a 3-4 pass blitzer, and Hawk needs to improve in that area.
 

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jdub2k4 said:
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Besides, Hawk may be moved to ILB and we already have a plethora of ILB competitors. We need a 3-4 pass blitzer, and Hawk needs to improve in that area.
I think 9 sacks is a good number for an OLB, and that's what Hawk produced.

I also don't think we should do that. If we were 1 or 2 players away from a championship in our minds, I would pull the trigger. And for the people that think we are going to draft Brady Quinn, I don't think that will happen unless we are a bad team next year and pick in the top 10.

Plus, let's see what he can do this year before we crown him king.
 

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I almost like hawk enough to do it, he will be the best linebacker in the leauge in a few years.
 
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