Trading down

[burmafrd]

#27 is a fairly awkward slot. Still first rd, but not a whole lot of difference between there and early second rd. Except you pay more. Now even in an uncapped year you have to figure that odds are the salary cap will come back in the next CBA. Makes too much sense not to. So I would be quite happy to trade down and do some more trading that would give us 2 second rd picks and maybe get a early third somehow. Second rd and early third is where the real depth of this draft is. Lot of value there. Now if someone drops to us then fine. Otherwise reality is that no top OT and probably no top Safety will drop to us. And there are only a few WRs that are worth our pick. And the best guards are pretty much all second rd; same with centers. Figure Pouncey will go before us anyway (not sure about him-came into the combine a lot lighter then was thought). Iupati will go before us as well. Now if we are lucky one of those we really want will slip to us. But otherwise I would be fine with trading down.

 

[TheSport78]

Agreed. If players like Iupati and Kyle Wilson are off the board at #27, I would have no trouble trading down a few slots and still pickup a player like Maurkice Pouncey or Rodger Saffold.

 

[arglebargle]

I don't think the back end of the first round has enough salary to be a major influence on moving down. Still, if everyone they've ranked worth a first rounder is gone, then I'd be calling the teams low in the 2nd that need QBs, and who might be getting a little nervous.

Worst thing about it is waiting another day for the first Cowboys pick!

 

[ShiningStar]

I gotta respectfully disagree. This should be the draft which i keep hearing is stocked, where we should grab quality over quantity. I dont need a draft like last year because we can fit only so many on a team.

We know most of our draft from last year will play this year, even if we dump some on the PS we risk losing them and we dont have that many glaring holes this year.

I say if someone slips and theres drafts where they do, if its viable, pull the trigger and grab him.

If we get 3 superstars out of this draft i;ll be thrilled.

I think this is the year we think about grabbing that guy because this team looks prime to not have a high pick next year so screw it, go out there and get those couple guys that could start and hold that spot for years.

You're right its an upcapped year, so lock up the rookies if you can or if not, take a few and pay him big bucks to hang around if you believe in them.

 

[burmafrd]

People go on and on about the uncapped year. Well guess what? Just about everyone expects the cap to be back next CBA and more then likely will pick right up where this year leaves off.And the difference between first and second rd adds up to several million.Now if someone slips then fine-grab him. BUT I would love to have several picks second and early third rd since that is where the value is in this draft.We could get a tackle, guard/center, safety-our real needs-all in the second and early third rd. I happen to think that we do not need to get a WR this year; and outside of that there is nothing else outside of someone to play for the Rat and give him some rest which can be gotten later in the draft.

 

[ShiningStar]

People go on and on about the uncapped year. Well guess what? Just about everyone expects the cap to be back next CBA and more then likely will pick right up where this year leaves off.And the difference between first and second rd adds up to several million.Now if someone slips then fine-grab him. BUT I would love to have several picks second and early third rd since that is where the value is in this draft.We could get a tackle, guard/center, safety-our real needs-all in the second and early third rd. I happen to think that we do not need to get a WR this year; and outside of that there is nothing else outside of someone to play for the Rat and give him some rest which can be gotten later in the draft.

everything is would ve could ve should ve, if there is a drop and its a player we could use, pull the trigger and be done with it. I dont really want a WR since I feel we are good there for another year, and anything else after tackle and safety is for fun and depth anyway. We dont need a lot of players and i dont wnat to draft to release this year.

 

[UnoDallas]

17 SF Jason Pierre-Paul DE

Analysis: It is hard to slot exactly where this tremendous physical talent shall eventually land. Pierre-Paul has legitimate top ten overall ability. Yet it was only seen for one season as a part time starter in South Florida. Deciding when and where this talent finally gets selected will be an interesting dilemma as the actual draft commences. In this scenario Coach Singletary gets a potential premiere pass rushing talent to add to his underachieving group already at the position.

18 Steelers Bruce Campbell
Analysis: Despite a Super Bowl victory two seasons ago and then falling just short of the playoffs this past season, the Steelers offensive line has continued to be one of the weaker units in the league. Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has been one of the top sacked signal callers in the league. Yet this team has yet to seriously address the situation. Campbell is the type of athlete the team has sorely lacked up front for years. And under the vision of Mike Tomlin as head coach, Pittsburgh has looked toward becoming more athletic overall.

21 Cinn Jared Odrick DT
Analysis: Previous reasoning behind the Bengals potentially selecting an interior defensive prospect still applies. Even with the re-signing of Tank Johnson, a presence is needed to be a constant disruptive force pushing the middle of the pocket to compliment their athletic ends and shut down cornerbacks. In this case, Odrick is a more versatile and talented prospect than the previous allotted prospect.

22 NE DeMaryius Thomas WR
Analysis: When Randy Moss says his time in New England is coming to a close, well everyone should....listen....? Whatever the case, Thomas will need time to develop as a receiver coming out of Georgia Tech's triple option attack. His physical presence opposite Moss can form a dynamic duo while learning under one of the all time best, plus picking up some of the slack left by the West Welker injury. Apparently, those around the league still believe this receiver is a first round selection. Injuries be..
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23 GB Anthony Davis OT
Analysis: Physically, Anthony Davis may be the most gifted offensive lineman in this draft class. Unfortunately with a recent bad workout and questions being raised about his overall work ethic; he could just as easily slide. The Packers would count their blessings based in their dire need to improve their offensive tackle position

who does that leave Iupati - we not looking at a saftey at 27
I think hes the target

 

[Woods]

I wouldn't mind a trade down, but there are quite a few players I wouldn't mind at 27.

I just think that there's a good chance that someone slips to us.

I'd happily take these guys at 27: Iupati, Pouncey, Wilson, E Thomas, Weatherspoon, Odrick. And I'm probably forgetting a couple of other guys . . . .

 

[burmafrd]

Iupati has been shown by a lot of "experts" going to Pittsburgh. I really doubt that Campbell will fall to us and even if he does I am wary of someone who could not get one single vote for his All Conferance Team.

 

[UnoDallas]

Iupati has been shown by a lot of "experts" going to Pittsburgh. I really doubt that Campbell will fall to us and even if he does I am wary of someone who could not get one single vote for his All Conferance Team.

a lot of the so called experts are usually wrong

Steelers - FS - CB - ISLBER - DT - IMO

 

[DFWJC]

Plain and simple: if the draft falls to where the value is the same (or very very close) to drop down on the Cowboys draft board, the go for it. Otherwise, don't get cute and blow it by missing on a real talent at 27.

It should always depend on how the draft is going....but yes, a deep draft my allow us to grab more than one future starter this season. And I say bever draft players in the top 4 or so rounds unless you thisnk they may be able to someday start for you.

 

[burmafrd]

Unless the Steelers are really stupid they know they need O line help desperately. Any mock that does not take that into account is pretty worthless. THe need upgrades all through the line. That is why Iupati is marked down as going to them.

 

[reddyuta]

i heard the podcast of broaddus on espn where he said that we have first rd grades on 24 guys,so the odds of trade down are very good.

 

[arglebargle]

It only takes three teams to have different 1st round grades than the Cowboys to drop someone the organization would rank as worthwhile. Due to differing views on scheme, type of player prefered, tolerance of off the field issues, etc, this can vary a lot.

And I am sure the Cowboys have run through a lot of 'No one bites on a trade, who do we pick?' scenarios.

Not averse to the concept, except for the exta waiting.

 

[UnoDallas]

Unless the Steelers are really stupid they know they need O line help desperately. Any mock that does not take that into account is pretty worthless. THe need upgrades all through the line. That is why Iupati is marked down as going to them.

oh an the Steelers could not use an OT - oh your so sure that they won't take a shot at Campbell- C Brown

and the one I am looking at has them picking CJ Spiller

http://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/draft2010_1.php
http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1527



I seen only one draft where they pick Iupati

I seen many that has Dallas picking Iupati

 

[burmafrd]

I don't pay a lot of attention to "mocks". The Steelers badly need O line help. Check. They have so far done little to get it in FA. Check. If one of the top tackles like Campbell slip they take him. Probably Brown as well if they got him that high, which is kind of doubtfull somewhat. Iupati is considered the best Interior Lineman available this year by many experts. So barring a top Tackle I believe they will take Iupati.