Training staff issues with hamstrings?

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I don't follow the rest of the league super closely to know how many other team's players have had hamstring issues but we seem to have had a ridiculous number of major ones this year:

Felix
Miles Austin x 3 with half the season missed
Mike Jenkins - 3 or 4 games missed
Andre Holmes from the PS
Dwayne Harris from the PS

I think there were even others. It seems like a very unusual number. Initially I thought it might be due to missed TC and OTA - that the players were too rushed. That seemed to make sense for Miles.

However, 3/4 of the season has now gone by and we keep coming down with fresh hamstring issues. There must be something wrong with our training regimens for this to be happening at this frequency this late in the year. Someone in the Cowboys medical staff/training staff has to step in and figure out what we are doing wrong. Maybe it is bad luck but maybe it is something wrong with our warmups or the stretching regimes for the speed players. It is sad that such an issue has played a major role in our success as a team this year.
 
non-contact injuries to key players are certainly very frustrating

It's gotten to the point with Miles and Felix I almost expect them to come up limping every time they get the ball.
 
the loss of the offseason was bigger on this team because we have brought back a strenght and condition coach so i dont expect him to work wonders with way less time than needed to get this team better conditioned.
 
loublue22;4325395 said:
non-contact injuries to key players are certainly very frustrating

It's gotten to the point with Miles and Felix I almost expect them to come up limping every time they get the ball.


:bow:
 
Our medical staff couldn't diagnose itself out of a paper bag. ;)

Isn't Tanner on IR with a hamstring?
 
Lmao...the medical staff isn't to blame for players' injuries.

Certain players are simply prone to certain injuries.....i.e. Austin and his hamstring.

We have our fair share...but we're not alone concerning injuries, particularly hamstring injuries. They're about the most common ailment in the NFL.
 
tomson75;4325422 said:
Lmao...the medical staff isn't to blame for players' injuries.

Certain players are simply prone to certain injuries.....i.e. Austin and his hamstring.

We have our fair share...but we're not alone concerning injuries, particularly hamstring injuries. They're about the most common ailment in the NFL.

The medical staff did a real bang-up job with that Fiammetta diagnosis. We were all about ready to concede his career.
 
Eskimo;4325383 said:
I don't follow the rest of the league super closely to know how many other team's players have had hamstring issues but we seem to have had a ridiculous number of major ones this year:

Felix
Miles Austin x 3 with half the season missed
Mike Jenkins - 3 or 4 games missed
Andre Holmes from the PS
Dwayne Harris from the PS

I think there were even others. It seems like a very unusual number. Initially I thought it might be due to missed TC and OTA - that the players were too rushed. That seemed to make sense for Miles.

However, 3/4 of the season has now gone by and we keep coming down with fresh hamstring issues. There must be something wrong with our training regimens for this to be happening at this frequency this late in the year. Someone in the Cowboys medical staff/training staff has to step in and figure out what we are doing wrong. Maybe it is bad luck but maybe it is something wrong with our warmups or the stretching regimes for the speed players. It is sad that such an issue has played a major role in our success as a team this year.


I saw this a lot this year in the NFL Andre Johnson etc from other teams a lot is to not working out with the team in the offseason
 
Eskimo;4325383 said:
I don't follow the rest of the league super closely to know how many other team's players have had hamstring issues but we seem to have had a ridiculous number of major ones this year:

Felix
Miles Austin x 3 with half the season missed
Mike Jenkins - 3 or 4 games missed
Andre Holmes from the PS
Dwayne Harris from the PS

I think there were even others. It seems like a very unusual number. Initially I thought it might be due to missed TC and OTA - that the players were too rushed. That seemed to make sense for Miles.

However, 3/4 of the season has now gone by and we keep coming down with fresh hamstring issues. There must be something wrong with our training regimens for this to be happening at this frequency this late in the year. Someone in the Cowboys medical staff/training staff has to step in and figure out what we are doing wrong. Maybe it is bad luck but maybe it is something wrong with our warmups or the stretching regimes for the speed players. It is sad that such an issue has played a major role in our success as a team this year.

Being an athletic trainer, I can tell you there are always things that happen that are beyond our control. What are they doing in the offseason? Are they working with a personal trainer? If so, what are they doing? What's their nutrition? Are they getting enough sleep? Are they taking care of themselves outside of practice? Are they sitting around playing Xbox for 4 hours a day? How predisposed are certain players to being hurt? There are dozens more.

I know it's frustrating, and it's easy to point fingers at the medical staff. I'm sure they're more frustrated than anyone. Maybe they do need to make changes. But the reality is, no matter what you do, there are two indisputable rules in sports:

1. Players get hurt
2. You can't change rule #1

links18;4325415 said:
Our medical staff couldn't diagnose itself out of a paper bag. ;)

Isn't Tanner on IR with a hamstring?

What would you know about it? Oh that's right, when it comes to health and medicine, I forgot. Everybody's an expert.
 
links18;4325427 said:
The medical staff did a real bang-up job with that Fiammetta diagnosis. We were all about ready to concede his career.

That's what happens when you make rampant speculation without any facts. The reason we didn't hear much about it is because of a little thing called HIPPA.

If you're in the health field, fine. If not, shut up.
 
links18;4325427 said:
The medical staff did a real bang-up job with that Fiammetta diagnosis. We were all about ready to concede his career.

Did they give him the infection?

I hardly see how diagnosing an inner ear infection with Vertigo-like symptoms correlates to reoccurring hamstring injuries, or their frequency.

The training staff could be held accountable (for hamstrings, not ear infections), but for some people it's just going to happen regardless of precautions.
 
Picksix;4325438 said:
That's what happens when you make rampant speculation without any facts. The reason we didn't hear much about it is because of a little thing called HIPPA.

If you're in the health field, fine. If not, shut up.
Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

I make that same mistake with that particular acronym way too often. :eek::
 
It seems like the hamstring issues are higher this year across the league and probably because of training camps being missed. I don't have any facts or figures of this but it just seems other teams are having troubles as well.

However wasn't it a year or two ago when Hatcher (think it was hatcher) hurt his hammy after the coaches did not have them stretch before practicing and Jerry ripped into one of the coaches over it? Maybe I am remembering that wrong.
 
Picksix;4325438 said:
That's what happens when you make rampant speculation without any facts. The reason we didn't hear much about it is because of a little thing called HIPPA.

If you're in the health field, fine. If not, shut up.

All things that are controlling it is why we block our Doctors from getting access to outside webmails from inside the hospital. It is why we are entertaining the idea of encrypting usb drives automatically when someone plugs in a usb thumb drive into any of our PC's in the hospital.
 
good luck with the encrypted flash drives. We tried that here and user-base at our hospital couldn't comprehend how to use them. Now we implemented do patient information should be accessed unless at a terminal.
 
links18;4325427 said:
The medical staff did a real bang-up job with that Fiammetta diagnosis. We were all about ready to concede his career.

I blame the tv show House for this.

Not everything happens in one hour including commercial breaks you know.
 
I love when the Holiday Inn Express doctors come out criticizing those that are actually PA's or MD's.
 
links18;4325415 said:
Our medical staff couldn't diagnose itself out of a paper bag. ;)

Isn't Tanner on IR with a hamstring?

It is not our training staff. Look around the league there are a lot of teams who have been dealing with hamstrings on and off all year long
 
basstapp;4325728 said:
good luck with the encrypted flash drives. We tried that here and user-base at our hospital couldn't comprehend how to use them. Now we implemented do patient information should be accessed unless at a terminal.

Not my call that is the security group; I just know what si goign on because I do infrastructure and help the security guys out all the time and work with them and they are already going to have to make an exception on some IS machines or we can not do our work. Kind of hard to do things on a server with a usb drive with no OS on it and the USB stick is encrypted :lmao:
 
I came up with a quick count of hammy injuries listed for active players in week 15 and came up with 32, or one per team. Coincidentally, we had one player listed with a "Hamstring", the great Andre Holmes.

There sure have been a lot of high profile hamstring injuries this season but I'm not sure if the general incidence rate has increased significantly.
 
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