Trent Dilfer calls out the run-loving dinosaurs

[T-RO]

To sum up Dilfer said that some people needed to get their heads out of the 80's. It's a passing league.

He said the Vikings better know what they are: a passing team and it's on Brett Favre's shoulders.

Dilfer says you create air in the defense when you open it up. The pass sets up the run but you've got to forget about traditional notions of run/pass balance. Throw the rock.

Let's see: Cowher says it's a passing league now. Dungee too. Bilichick, Aikman. Dilfer. I guess the dinos can jump on the bus with Brad Childress.

You evolve or die. I support the Cowboy Air Force and Garrett's desire to spread the field and open the offense. Conservatism = Fear = Death (I am ONLY talking football here guys)

Go Cowboys!

 

[NextGenBoys]

I saw that as well. It made me

That being said, I'm all for balance. Keeping a defense off-balance is more important than almost anything else. But I like to pass to set up the run however, which is what Dilfer is referring to.

 

[RainMan]

Oh, without a doubt this is a passing league. I still think defense matters, and can occasion win championships -- at least as a tip-the-scale-in-your-favor so long as you have a good passing attack.

The ability to run is a mere supplement to passing.

 

[T-RO]

In Winter in Chicago

594 out of 786 yards were via air tonight...76% of he yardage

If Adrian Peterson had been out of the game----the Vikings would have won. Minn wouldn't have been caught up trying to impose AP into the offense with an outdated style of game. And believe me I do respect AP as an elite talent.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I saw that as well. It made me

That being said, I'm all for balance. Keeping a defense off-balance is more important than almost anything else. But I like to pass to set up the run however, which is what Dilfer is referring to.

I agree, balance is the key to winning games.

 

[T-RO]

Dilfer talks about coaches who don't feel supported to do what they need to do and really open it up. He said the fanbase and media do make a difference.

That's why I will have and keep pounding the message about PASSING THE ROCK.

Cowboy nation I call on you!

Get on the Garrett bus (open air offense) or be a Brad Childress dino helping hold back Cowboy nation.

 

[T-RO]

Oh, without a doubt this is a passing league. I still think defense matters, and can occasion win championships -- at least as a tip-the-scale-in-your-favor so long as you have a good passing attack.

The ability to run is a mere supplement to passing.

Defense is HUGE. But give me a defense that can hound and pound opposing QBs and three or four guys who can cover one on one.

Pass and stop the pass....that's ultimately the key.

 

[Ren]

I agree, balance is the key to winning games.

Balance is overrated, if a team is selling out to stop the run like the 2nd Giants game you pass. If they're keeping everyone back in deep coverage to take away the pass like the 1st Giants game, you're averaging over 5 yards a run and your QB is struggling you run.

If you meant balance in the sense that you're capable of doing both then i agree, but passing or running when the opposite would be far more productive just to be balanced is pointless and counter productive

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Fans tend to be extremist in their views. Half of any given team's fan base insists on running 80 percent of the time while the other half insists on passing 80 percent of the time. In truth, teams aren't likely to be successful unless they can do both.

In the modern NFL, the ideal pass/run ratio is roughly 55/45.

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't think anyone has ever contested it being a passing league.

I think most have contested the fact that you completely disregard the run all together. Saying its a passing league doesn't mean that running isn't important, which is the impression that your posts put out.

 

[casmith07]

If the Vikings are a passing team and it's all on Fade-Away Favre's shoulders, then it's a wrap for their season and we'll be playing for the 2-seed in the NFC on Sunday.

 

[T-RO]

If the Vikings are a passing team and it's all on Fade-Away Favre's shoulders, then it's a wrap for their season and we'll be playing for the 2-seed in the NFC on Sunday.

Unbelievably ignorant IMO.

When Favre has been free to play his way this season the Vikings are undefeated. He led a monumental comeback tonight----only sabotaged by an AP fumble.

 

[T-RO]

I don't think anyone has ever contested it being a passing league.

I think most have contested the fact that you completely disregard the run all together. Saying its a passing league doesn't mean that running isn't important, which is the impression that your posts put out.

Hoofbite you have backpedalled on your position 180 degrees. Don't get me wrong. i commend you for it. A month ago you said it was the running game first. Now you say just don't abandon running altogether.

I'll give you points for progress.

 

[Hoofbite]

Unbelievably ignorant IMO.

When Favre has been free to play his way this season the Vikings are undefeated. He led a monumental comeback tonight----only sabotaged by an AP fumble.

Which means what? You're against running the ball or running backs? It was a pass play that AP fumbled on.

 

[AdamJT13]

In truth, teams aren't likely to be successful unless they can do both.

Nope. If you can pass and stop the pass, it barely matters how well you can run or stop the run.

 

[Hoofbite]

Hoofbite you have backpedalled on your position 180 degrees. Don't get me wrong. i commend you for it. A month ago you said it was the running game first. Now you say just don't abandon running altogether.

I'll give you points for progress.

If you can find evidence of it, I'd like to see it.

I've been strongly opposed to the idea that "the good teams" pass 60% of the time as you claimed. You claimed it reached as high as 70% for some teams.

I'm still waiting to hear of a Superbowl Champ in the past 20 or so years that passed the ball 60% of the time.

I've been a huge supporter of BALANCE.

 

[T-RO]

Fans tend to be extremist in their views. Half of any given team's fan base insists on running 80 percent of the time while the other half insists on passing 80 percent of the time. In truth, teams aren't likely to be successful unless they can do both.

In the modern NFL, the ideal pass/run ratio is roughly 55/45.

Name one fan in the history of this board that has EVER proposed we pass the ball 80%. Name one that has ever proposed we pass it 70%. Heck name one that has ever proposed running to that degree.

I am trying to be nice here...but your argument seems vapid beyond words.

The trend is 60/40 pass and pushing that way more every year, but I don't think you target any percentage at all. You create air in the defense, then you attack and attack and attack.

 

[T-RO]

If you can find evidence of it, I'd like to see it.

I've been strongly opposed to the idea that "the good teams" pass 60% of the time as you claimed. You claimed it reached as high as 70% for some teams.

I'm still waiting to hear of a Superbowl Champ in the past 20 or so years that passed the ball 60% of the time.

I've been a huge supporter of BALANCE.

I have been 100 fold more substantive than any fan...providing quotes by the dominant coaches and analysts of the era, plus reams of stats to back up my every point.

The Colts were undefeated until they gave up last Sunday and they pass the ball about 65% of the time, which I think is a good target (60-65%).

 

[T-RO]

"The game has changed, the rules have changed," he said. "I think right now, I hate to say this, but the running game is a complement. It's not the foundation that it once was. You look at the last three AFC teams that were in the Super Bowl, that's Pittsburgh, New England and Indianapolis. They're all passing teams. The running game is a complement."

Bill Cowher

 

[Hoofbite]

I have been 100 fold more substantive than any fan...providing quotes by the dominant coaches and analysts of the era, plus reams of stats to back up my every point.

The Colts were undefeated until they gave up last Sunday and they pass the ball about 65% of the time, which I think is a good target (60-65%).

So the Colts would be the 1st team to win a SB in at least the last 20 years to pass over 60% of the time?