Troy Davis And Lawrence Brewer, A Tale Of Two Executions

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Two men sitting on Death Row are scheduled to die tonight, both by lethal injection, and both in two of the most racially charged cases in recent memory.

One is Troy Davis, a black man who was convicted of killing a white off-duty police officer in Savannah, Georgia, in 1989. The other is Lawrence Brewer, a white man who in 1998 participated in the grizzly murder of James Byrd Jr., a black man whom Brewer and two other men attacked. They slit his throat, chained him to the back of a pickup truck and dragged him down an old country road in Jasper, Texas, until his head and limbs were torn from his body.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/troy-davis-and-lawrence-b_n_974293.html
 

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Its only a delay to consider a stay. They are not likely to grant it.
It's crazy. The news just showed hundereds of law enforcement officials in riot gear (regular cops, swat guys, corrections officers) all standing guard ringing the entrances to the prison facing off with protestors across a road. Hundereds of cops off the streets just for this. Hopefully this will stay peaceful. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a mini-riot here in downtown Atlanta, though.
 

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please excuse me while I ask a few questions regarding this - I am not as knowledgeable on this topic as I would like to be, so I would like to ask a few questions and hopefully someone can answer them for me.

What exactly do all these people who are protesting this want to happen to Davis? Do these people think this guy is innocent? or do they just think he doesnt deserve the death penalty?

I mean based on the information that I know - which is fairly limited. Regardless of whether Davis was the trigger man in murdering the police officer, didn't he kill an individual earlier in that same day? or was that not proven?

I am not going to proceed with my opinion on this matter but I am not exactly sure what the Davis "defenders" are trying to accomplish here..Do they feel as if Davis should be set free? Do they think he should be jailed for life?
 

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GloryDaysRBack;4129924 said:
please excuse me while I ask a few questions regarding this - I am not as knowledgeable on this topic as I would like to be, so I would like to ask a few questions and hopefully someone can answer them for me.

What exactly do all these people who are protesting this want to happen to Davis? Do these people think this guy is innocent? or do they just think he doesnt deserve the death penalty?

I mean based on the information that I know - which is fairly limited. Regardless of whether Davis was the trigger man in murdering the police officer, didn't he kill an individual earlier in that same day? or was that not proven?

I am not going to proceed with my opinion on this matter but I am not exactly sure what the Davis "defenders" are trying to accomplish here..Do they feel as if Davis should be set free? Do they think he should be jailed for life?

The vast majority of them say that since so much doubt exists, the death penalty should be taken off the table and his sentence commuted to life. Only a handful think he's really innocent.


Edit: Supreme Court denies request for stay. It's over.
 

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DIAF;4129926 said:
The vast majority of them say that since so much doubt exists, the death penalty should be taken off the table and his sentence commuted to life. Only a handful think he's really innocent.


Edit: Supreme Court denies request for stay. It's over.

^ That, above.

He's in jail for something. Whether it's murder or not, is debatable.

There are a lot of issues around capital cases. In my opinion I think state criminal justice systems could learn a lot from the military justice system for capital cases, but I could write a paper on that.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4129624 said:
Two men sitting on Death Row are scheduled to die tonight, both by lethal injection, and both in two of the most racially charged cases in recent memory.

One is Troy Davis, a black man who was convicted of killing a white off-duty police officer in Savannah, Georgia, in 1989. The other is Lawrence Brewer, a white man who in 1998 participated in the grizzly murder of James Byrd Jr., a black man whom Brewer and two other men attacked. They slit his throat, chained him to the back of a pickup truck and dragged him down an old country road in Jasper, Texas, until his head and limbs were torn from his body.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/21/troy-davis-and-lawrence-b_n_974293.html

This piece of scum doesn't deserve lethal injection.

And how nice that it only took 13 years or so to finally get to this point.

He should have been taken out back and beaten within an inch of his life, allowed to fully recover and beaten again. I hope someone goes Gerard Butler on him and switches the order of drugs they give him.
 

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To All:

I want to thank all of you for your efforts and dedication to Human Rights and Human Kindness, in the past year I have experienced such emotion, joy, sadness and never ending faith. It is because of all of you that I am alive today, as I look at my sister Martina I am marveled by the love she has for me and of course I worry about her and her health, but as she tells me she is the eldest and she will not back down from this fight to save my life and prove to the world that I am innocent of this terrible crime.

As I look at my mail from across the globe, from places I have never ever dreamed I would know about and people speaking languages and expressing cultures and religions I could only hope to one day see first hand. I am humbled by the emotion that fills my heart with overwhelming, overflowing Joy. I can’t even explain the insurgence of emotion I feel when I try to express the strength I draw from you all, it compounds my faith and it shows me yet again that this is not a case about the death penalty, this is not a case about Troy Davis, this is a case about Justice and the Human Spirit to see Justice prevail.

I cannot answer all of your letters but I do read them all, I cannot see you all but I can imagine your faces, I cannot hear you speak but your letters take me to the far reaches of the world, I cannot touch you physically but I feel your warmth everyday I exist.

So Thank you and remember I am in a place where execution can only destroy your physical form but because of my faith in God, my family and all of you I have been spiritually free for some time and no matter what happens in the days, weeks to come, this Movement to end the death penalty, to seek true justice, to expose a system that fails to protect the innocent must be accelerated. There are so many more Troy Davis’. This fight to end the death penalty is not won or lost through me but through our strength to move forward and save every innocent person in captivity around the globe. We need to dismantle this Unjust system city by city, state by state and country by country.

I can’t wait to Stand with you, no matter if that is in physical or spiritual form, I will one day be announcing,

“I AM TROY DAVIS, and I AM FREE!”

Never Stop Fighting for Justice and We will Win!
 

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I shouldn't say im surprised bc I shouldnt..for some reason I never seem to fall in line w the general opinion..I guess thats why I'm a cowboys fan in DC..but I have no sympathy for this guy..0..bye bye
 

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GloryDaysRBack;4129924 said:
please excuse me while I ask a few questions regarding this - I am not as knowledgeable on this topic as I would like to be, so I would like to ask a few questions and hopefully someone can answer them for me.

What exactly do all these people who are protesting this want to happen to Davis? Do these people think this guy is innocent? or do they just think he doesnt deserve the death penalty?

I mean based on the information that I know - which is fairly limited. Regardless of whether Davis was the trigger man in murdering the police officer, didn't he kill an individual earlier in that same day? or was that not proven?

I am not going to proceed with my opinion on this matter but I am not exactly sure what the Davis "defenders" are trying to accomplish here..Do they feel as if Davis should be set free? Do they think he should be jailed for life?
The earlier guy that was shot didn't die. He was one of the witnesses who has changed his story. Some of the witness (locals that knew him) have recanted publicly but have never been cross examined since. But the most reliable witnesses were in the military and I don't believe are part of the ones who have recanted. At the time all the witnesses agreed that the shooter was wearing a white batman shirt which is what Davis was wearing. His friend named Red has been named since but he was wearing a brown shirt.
 

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Thanks Speedy

There isn't much doubt in my mind Davis killed him..but that doesn't mean anything. Just surprised so Many people actually think he wasn't the trigger man.
 

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Wait, how would the guy who was shot earlier know whether Davis killed the cop or not? It was 2 separate shootings..hours apart..
 

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DIAF;4129892 said:
Its only a delay to consider a stay. They are not likely to grant it.
It's crazy. The news just showed hundereds of law enforcement officials in riot gear (regular cops, swat guys, corrections officers) all standing guard ringing the entrances to the prison facing off with protestors across a road. Hundereds of cops off the streets just for this. Hopefully this will stay peaceful. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a mini-riot here in downtown Atlanta, though.

A very short delay. Wow. Swift justice doesn't equal fairness. I'm saddened by the hastiness here.
 

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GloryDaysRBack;4130176 said:
Wait, how would the guy who was shot earlier know whether Davis killed the cop or not? It was 2 separate shootings..hours apart..
The guy that was shot says he doesn't believe that Davis was the one that shot him. Sorry for the confusion, but his change was part of Davis's defense.
 

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CowboyMcCoy;4130179 said:
Swift justice doesn't equal fairness. I'm saddened by the hastiness here.

:lmao:

It has been 22 years ....... how the heck is that "swift justice" or "hasty"?
 

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zrinkill;4130288 said:
:lmao:

It has been 22 years ....... how the heck is that "swift justice" or "hasty"?

I agree he was given a fair trial; he was given the right to appeal. He committed a horrendous crime. This was not an accident this was intentional; he dragged a man by his feet behind a truck until the man was dead. He was given the lethal injections which I have no doubt was much less painful than what Mr. Byrd endured.

I don't agree with every case where the death penalty is handed out but in this case you bet justice was served.
 

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zrinkill;4130288 said:
:lmao:

It has been 22 years ....... how the heck is that "swift justice" or "hasty"?

I don't expect you'll even get what I'm saying. I was talking about his stay and the fact it didn't last long. Keep up, Zrin. Keep up!
 

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Doomsday101;4130364 said:
I agree he was given a fair trial; he was given the right to appeal. He committed a horrendous crime. This was not an accident this was intentional; he dragged a man by his feet behind a truck until the man was dead. He was given the lethal injections which I have no doubt was much less painful than what Mr. Byrd endured.

I don't agree with every case where the death penalty is handed out but in this case you bet justice was served.

He was talking about the dude who shot the cop back in 1989
 
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