Tuna's Challenge

Danny White

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BP's challenge of the Harrison catch with about 4 minutes to go in the 4th was obviously a big moment in the game.

It broke up the Colt's momentum...

It arguably saved a touchdown (although some of our players let up when the whistle blew so I don't know if they would have scored).

But the one very funny thing I noticed watching the game was that there was NO WAY he'd have gotten the flag thrown if Manning hadn't have undergone his pre-snap theatrics. :lmao:

They were ready to snap the ball, but then Peyton had to do his song and dance routine for 10 full seconds, which allowed Tuna to make the challenge.
 
Danny White;1174691 said:
BP's challenge of the Harrison catch with about 4 minutes to go in the 4th was obviously a big moment in the game.

It broke up the Colt's momentum...

It arguably saved a touchdown (although some of our players let up when the whistle blew so I don't know if they would have scored).

But the one very funny thing I noticed watching the game was that there was NO WAY he'd have gotten the flag thrown if Manning hadn't have undergone his pre-snap theatrics. :lmao:

They were ready to snap the ball, but then Peyton had to do his song and dance routine for 10 full seconds, which allowed Tuna to make the challenge.


..this was possibly the most important challenge in Cowboys history and was a game-turning play for the team.

I believe that it was a move by a coach that was accutely aware that Peyton had his team by the throat despite all the great plays to that point. A TD and a 2 pt. conversion and the Colts probably win it at that point.

The red flag came at a moment where it had to have upset the rhythum Manning was having moving them iinto position to score. Whistle or no whistle, I think BP saw the Cowboys were in the wrong defense and did it out of desperation.

It was the shrewdest thing I've ever seen BP do at a time when something needed to be done.

It will not count as a sack or an int. in the stats, but it had very nearly the same effect of removing the 6 pts off the board at a crucial, crucial time in the game.

BP..that was insanely beautiful.

parcellswaterboy
 
Funny, cuz after it was ruled a catch, a whole bunch of people were criticizing BP for the challenge (I was not one of them).


I thought it was a good challenge (It did seem like the ball came loose as Harrison came down). The fact that the Colts scored makes it that much better (that it didn't count).
 
parcellswaterboy;1174880 said:
..this was possibly the most important challenge in Cowboys history and was a game-turning play for the team.

I believe that it was a move by a coach that was accutely aware that Peyton had his team by the throat despite all the great plays to that point. A TD and a 2 pt. conversion and the Colts probably win it at that point.

The red flag came at a moment where it had to have upset the rhythum Manning was having moving them iinto position to score. Whistle or no whistle, I think BP saw the Cowboys were in the wrong defense and did it out of desperation.

It was the shrewdest thing I've ever seen BP do at a time when something needed to be done.

It will not count as a sack or an int. in the stats, but it had very nearly the same effect of removing the 6 pts off the board at a crucial, crucial time in the game.

BP..that was insanely beautiful.

parcellswaterboy

He could have just called timeout. No need to hope that they see the flag.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1174895 said:
He could have just called timeout. No need to hope that they see the flag.


yeah, but why not just get refs to look at that throw anyways... never know, cost a timeout anyway

about that resulting in saving a td.... well, alot of our players probably laxed some so who knows, but it was a really really good move by BP
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1174895 said:
He could have just called timeout. No need to hope that they see the flag.

You'd just have to hope they see the timeout. I think he saw the confusion on the field before the snap (on both sides) and would have called timeout but took a chance that the play might be overturned.

Maybe he'll get asked about it this week during a press conference.
 
My first thought was....."why in the heck is he challenging it?!" then it hit me that it was basically a Time Out to throw off their timing they had going. Then I watched a reply, there were about three angles that made it look clearly like a catch however that fourth angle, the one from the sideline cam, that made it look kinda suseptable. However I still believe it was the right call there was clearly not enough evidence to reverse the call on the field which was probably the right call.

Also if BP would have called a TO what would have happened the Colts would have been their thinking they have us flustered right where they want us, while a challenge will have them thinking more about the possibillity of the play being reversed and less about what to do next. Or atleast that's what I like to think.... lolZ
 
I agree that it brole up their rythm. Don't know if that is why he did it, but the end result was good.
 
I think a challenge in that situation was far better than a time out. First, it gave us the off chance something would show up to overturn the catch. Second, it allows just a moment of insecurity to creep into the minds of the Colts; because you never know what could happen. Third, it stopped the play for a longer period of time than a simple time out.

Just my opinion.
Scot
 
It's always a smart play to throw the red flag instead of just the timeout...Dungy did the same thing in the fourth quarter. First, it cost you no more than the timeout anyway, but more importantly, there's always the chance of discussing something with the ref, finding out you can't or shouldn't make the challenge, and then you got the brief timeout for nothing....playing the system.
 
parcellswaterboy;1174880 said:
..this was possibly the most important challenge in Cowboys history and was a game-turning play for the team.

I believe that it was a move by a coach that was accutely aware that Peyton had his team by the throat despite all the great plays to that point. A TD and a 2 pt. conversion and the Colts probably win it at that point.

2 pt. conversion?? i don't see that as even being a possibility.
 
AdamJT13;1174900 said:
Maybe he'll get asked about it this week during a press conference.

Oh, I'm SURE he'd be completely forthcoming about his strategy and tell the whole truth. :rolleyes:
 
He likely "practiced" that call during the week. It is a smart move as it gets a longer break for the D -- notice how he waited until the Colts made it to the line and were setting up - Manning was going through his gyrations, Bill got a look at the O's alignment and then, called the challenge. I also believe that TO wasn't scheduled for a TV break -- meaning that the timeout would have been 40 seconds rather than 2 minutes. The challenge gave far more time there.
 
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