Two games won on the secondary play

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I have been told that skill players/secondaries are not all that important to the team. I would, however, argue that we won against Washington and no Philadelphia on the play of a secondary that LOCKED DOWN the receivers in front of them. The secondary protected a defensive line made of backups and allowed them extra seconds to get pressure.

Who'd have thunk that there are various strategies to winning.
 

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I am well aware that we are about to play Calvin Johnson and a good Lions passing game. I don't expect the secondary to lock that team down the same way. I AM pointing out that I would bet some good coin that Marinelli is thankful for the secondary in assisting his rushmen.
 

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After Calvin, the Lions don't really have any vertical threats. You have to stop Jackson/McCoy you will have to stop Calvin/Bush. Easier said than done because Calvin is twice the receiver, but we should have a pretty similar scheme next week I would think.
 

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This is a passing league. You have to cover.
Or you will lose by a lot.

Easiest thing in football is to pass the ball given the rules all favor the offense.

The difference between a Bern and Waters is very real but the difference between Mike Jenkins and Brandon Carr is 10 points a ball game.
 

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After Calvin, the Lions don't really have any vertical threats. You have to stop Jackson/McCoy you will have to stop Calvin/Bush. Easier said than done because Calvin is twice the receiver, but we should have a pretty similar scheme next week I would think.

Calvin is what, 8 inches taller than Jackson and far more physical? Definitely scarier but bracket him and tackle him and you can win.
 

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After Calvin, the Lions don't really have any vertical threats. You have to stop Jackson/McCoy you will have to stop Calvin/Bush. Easier said than done because Calvin is twice the receiver, but we should have a pretty similar scheme next week I would think.

Not only that but Detroit is similar to Philly defensively. Very mediocre at best Lions defense that is softer against the run then the Eagles.

Dallas will shadow CJ with Carr plus use a safety over the top to help.

The hard part will be Carter covering Bush. A matchup that wildly favors the Lions.
But again this shouldn't be a low scoring game anywhere than last week's game looked to be coming in.
 

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This is a passing league. You have to cover.
Or you will lose by a lot.

Easiest thing in football is to pass the ball given the rules all favor the offense.

The difference between a Bern and Waters is very real but the difference between Mike Jenkins and Brandon Carr is 10 points a ball game.

Everyone was killing the defense after the Denver game about not getting enough pressure. Nevermind that Manning was getting the ball out of his hands in about 2 seconds and not really going downfield. That was all coverage issue and the last game we really played predominantly zone IIRC. We are much, much better playing man under. Makes the QB have to be very accurate and buys about half a second for the defensive line.
 

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Calvin is what, 8 inches taller than Jackson and far more physical? Definitely scarier but bracket him and tackle him and you can win.

DeSean is actually having by far the better season. He has more catches for more yards and more yardage per catch.

CJ is obviously the better. more consistent player but DeSean the more dangerous guy on a given play due to speed and quickness.
CJ has 5 plays of 20+ yards. DeSean has 12.

We'll need to do some of the bracketing teams do versus Dez.
 

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Everyone was killing the defense after the Denver game about not getting enough pressure. Nevermind that Manning was getting the ball out of his hands in about 2 seconds and not really going downfield. That was all coverage issue and the last game we really played predominantly zone IIRC. We are much, much better playing man under. Makes the QB have to be very accurate and buys about half a second for the defensive line.

No argument from me on any of that.
I was a safety in college that was great versus the run.
I understand how important pass coverage is, it lead to me being 6th string, lol.
 

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Our secondary is better than our front 4...our defense would be scary if our front 4 was better. Still playing well as a unit.
 

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Everyone was killing the defense after the Denver game about not getting enough pressure. Nevermind that Manning was getting the ball out of his hands in about 2 seconds and not really going downfield. That was all coverage issue and the last game we really played predominantly zone IIRC. We are much, much better playing man under. Makes the QB have to be very accurate and buys about half a second for the defensive line.

We now know the Cowboys or any other team for that matter cannot play zone defense against Peyton Manning. Sad thing is Cowboys have a better secondary than the Colts. Had they manned up the whole game that would have been a "W".
 
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