Two questions

[Boyz981]

How many times has Tony lead the Cowboys to leads in the 4th quarter?

How many times has the Defense come up with a stop after they got the lead in the 4th quarter?


Thanks!

 

[Proximo]

In the past couple of seasons?

1) More times than be gets credit for.

2) Not as many times as they should have.

The defense has been the primary reason we haven't made the playoffs the last couple of years, with the O-line not far behind. Looks like 1 of the 2 is now fixed. Let's hope Kiffin and company can hold up their end of the bargain moving forward.

 

[DogFace]

In the past couple of seasons?

1) More times than be gets credit for.

2) Not as many times as they should have.

The defense has been the primary reason we haven't made the playoffs the last couple of years, with the O-line not far behind. Looks like 1 of the 2 is now fixed. Let's hope Kiffin and company can hold up their end of the bargain moving forward.

Yes

 

[burmafrd]

there have been clearly more failures over the past 2 years on the D then on romo.

 

[Nova]

For the 2nd question... are we asking how many times the defense got a stop after Romo completed a 4th quarter comeback to take the lead? Or are you asking how many times has the defense squandered a 4th quarter lead?

If it's the former. I'll put together actual figures after I get to work.

But honestly, there haven't been many instances where the defense has squandered Romo's 4th quarter comeback heroics and there haven't been many games where they made a stop to end the game either.

The reason for that is because 4th quarter comebacks/game winning drives are mostly on the offense since the game usually ends in the offense's hands.

 

[Future]

In 2011, the Cowboys lost back to back games after Tony led them into FG range for a last second FG that would have tied or won the game.

NYG blocked the kick and against ARZ garrett decided to ice his own kicker.

 

[The Natural]

Only thing that matters is whether you win or lose

 

[CATCH17]

They were talking about this on the radio yesterday.

Whenever Romo has had to bring us back from a TD he is pretty good. Whenever we are close in a game or have a small lead is when he usually chokes.

 

[percyhoward]

In these late-and-close situations, of the six QB listed, Romo's rating is 2nd-best. His defense's rating is the worst.

Career 4th qtr or OT, margin + or - 7 points

Rodgers 218 of 341 2895 yd 22 td 7 int 103.7
GB Defense: 199 of 370 2723 yd 14 td 14 int 74.4
diff: +29.3

Romo 325 of 529 4534 yd 31 td 13 int 100.1
Dalllas Defense 324 of 550 4131 yd 22 td 14 int 85.2
diff: +14.9

PManning 513 of 791 5987 yd 39 td 18 int 94.6
Ind/Den Defenses 423 of 734 4505 yd 23 td 39 int 64.0
diff: +30.6

Brees 464 of 714 5248 yd 33 td 22 int 89.4
SD/NO Defenses 430 of 784 5012 yd 29 td 27 int 72.4
diff: +17.0

EManning 285 of 476 3791 yd 32 td 21 int 89.2
NYG Defense 326 of 565 4015 yd 30 td 19 int 83.5
diff: +5.7

Brady 399 of 657 4868 yd 31 td 22 int 85.3
NE Defense 356 of 679 4030 yd 19 td 37 int 57.1
diff: +28.2

 

[Kevinicus]

In these late-and-close situations, of the six QB listed, Romo's rating is 2nd-best. His defense's rating is the worst.

Career 4th qtr or OT, margin + or - 7 points

Rodgers 218 of 341 2895 yd 22 td 7 int 103.7
GB Defense: 199 of 370 2723 yd 14 td 14 int 74.4
diff: +29.3

Romo 325 of 529 4534 yd 31 td 13 int 100.1
Dalllas Defense 324 of 550 4131 yd 22 td 14 int 85.2
diff: +14.9

PManning 513 of 791 5987 yd 39 td 18 int 94.6
Ind/Den Defenses 423 of 734 4505 yd 23 td 39 int 64.0
diff: +30.6

Brees 464 of 714 5248 yd 33 td 22 int 89.4
SD/NO Defenses 430 of 784 5012 yd 29 td 27 int 72.4
diff: +17.0

EManning 285 of 476 3791 yd 32 td 21 int 89.2
NYG Defense 326 of 565 4015 yd 30 td 19 int 83.5
diff: +5.7

Brady 399 of 657 4868 yd 31 td 22 int 85.3
NE Defense 356 of 679 4030 yd 19 td 37 int 57.1
diff: +28.2

So you're saying that defense matters?!?!

No, it can't be...that's Impossible!!

 

[JD_KaPow]

How many times has Tony lead the Cowboys to leads in the 4th quarter?
How many times has the Defense come up with a stop after they got the lead in the 4th quarter?

Looking at 2012...

• Ravens game: Tony led a FG drive early in the 4th to bring us within 1. The defense promptly gave up a TD. Tony then led a TD drive to get within 2, but the 2-point conversion failed. We recovered the onside kick and Tony led a 24 second drive for a 51-yard FG attempt, which failed. So technically, this game doesn't qualify for either of your questions, but it's worth remembering.
• Carolina game: Tony led a 4th-quarter drive to give the Cowboys a lead that they didn't relinquish.
• 2nd Giants game: Dez's fingertips.
• Cleveland game: Tony led a 4th-quarter drive to take the lead, which the defense promptly relinquished. He then led another scoring drive to force overtime, and another one to win in OT.
  
• 2nd Eagles game: Tony led a 4th-quarter drive to give the Cowboys a lead that they didn't relinquish.
• Cincinnati game: Tony led a 4th-quarter TD drive to get the Cowboys within 2, and then a last-minute drive to win the game on a FG.
• Pittsburgh game: Tony led a 4th-quarter TD drive to tie the game, and then the game-winning drive in OT.
• NO game: Down 14 points, Tony led two 4th-quarter TD drives to tie the game and force OT.

So that's 9 drives last year to tie the game or take the lead in the 4th quarter or OT. The defense only blew it on one of those occasions that I can see (and we won that game). Now, there were other times (like the Ravens game) when we scored in the 4th to make the game close and then the defense let them extend the lead.

As far as 4th-quarter failures, let's see:

• The missed FG in the Ravens game.
• Here's how the Cowboys' 4th-quarter drives ended in the 2nd Giants game: Felix fumble, INT on 4th down at the Giants 19, and the Dez fingertip drive that came up short.
• The INT in the last game against WAS.

 

[VirusX]

I'm willing to bet we have won more games then we have lost because of Romo's gunslinger style... More then a 2:1 ratio if I had to guess...

 

[Rockport]

Only thing that matters is whether you win or lose

In regards to Romo, only the haters/ignorant believe this.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Only thing that matters is whether you win or lose

That's absolutely right. If you have a losing team, you must immediately replace all players, since no evaluation of any kind matters beyond knowing that they lost. If you have a winning team, you must keep all players, because they're all winners (at least until they start losing).

 

[Nova]

It would take some time to break down all the starts of Romo's career and ***** blame.

But from briefly skimming over the requirements of "a Romo 4th quarter comeback, ultimately lost by the defense" there aren't many clear cut examples.

Completely on the defense:
Games in which Romo tied or took the lead in the 4th quarter and then the defense gave up points to end and lose the game
2011 Giants at home
2009 Giants at home
2012 Saints at home

Partially defense, Partially Romo:
Games where Romo took the lead or tied in the 4th quarter, the defense surrenders the lead again (usually early in the 4th Q), Romo and co get a few opportunities but fails

2007 Giants at home (divisional round)
2006 Lions at home

Funnily enough, it's special teams that's at fault for losses more so than the defense in the same situation.

On special teams:

2006 @ Washington
2008 @ Arizona
2011 @ Arizona
2012 @ Ravens