Tyler Smith in the 1st round

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McShay said on his podcast yesterday with Mel that all he's hearing from his sources around the league is that Smith will not get out of the 1st round.
 
McShay said on his podcast yesterday with Mel that all he's hearing from his sources around the league is that Smith will not get out of the 1st round.

I think they see the physical talents and a moldable piece of clay that has the potential to be dominant. He’s a heck of a roll of the dice.
 
I think they see the physical talents and a moldable piece of clay that has the potential to be dominant. He’s a heck of a roll of the dice.
You do not take a player that needs as much work as he does in the first round despite his physical measurements. You just don't. But its probably true that some GM will pull the trigger.
Some of the biggest draft busts in history were happened this way. All the measurables but failed because you cannot unscrew the top of the head and look inside.
My biggest worry about him was the penalties.
 
You do not take a player that needs as much work as he does in the first round despite his physical measurements. You just don't.

We’ll see if some team does. If you think he can be the next Larry Allen, you don’t hesitate. That’s why you pay scouts and it’s also why the draft isn’t an exact science.

But its probably true that some GM will pull the trigger.
Some of the biggest draft busts in history were happened this way. All the measurables but failed because you cannot unscrew the top of the head and look inside.

No. But you can thoroughly interview the young man and vet him out through coaches and teammates as well. Do the homework and there’s less chance of a miss.

My biggest worry about him was the penalties.

I attribute that to over aggressiveness and a lack of technique, all things that can be resolved through coaching in my opinion.

I think that working inside at guard he would be less extended and see less because of just that. Add in good coaching (if you feel Philbin can provide) and you may ultimately have a dominant force.

Personally, I wouldn’t hate it if we took him at #24 and would be very intrigued to see how he developed.
 
Super young too. He just barely turned 21 so I can see the upside.
 
I've flipped on him. I was against it when he first started flying up boards but the more I've seen the more I've come around. Some in the media are labeling him as boom/bust project with elite measurables/testing but I don't think that's entirely fair. I wouldn't bet on him becoming an elite tackle, but IMO, the following traits mean his floor isn't as low as some are indicating:
  • Already an elite run blocker
  • Excellent testing/measurables
  • Can likely kick inside to guard to start out
Despite his late in the process rise, lower level of competition, and having plenty of warts in pass blocking against finesse rushers, that doesn't sound like a player with a terribly low floor to me. Granted, Linderbaum, K. Green and Z. Johnson have a good bit higher floors but I would be ok with the pick if we took Smith based on his ceiling.
 
He will be a walking holding penalty in the NFL without immediate improvement…

It’s all going to be about the kid and what’s between his ears, which we obviously don’t know as fans.

His technique as a whole needs a real overhaul.
While the highlights of the pancake blocks look sexy, he also has some downright bad tape. if he’s a willing learner and hard worker you obviously love the traits to turn into a great player. But if he’s stubborn or lazy I do think he can be a total bust, he’s that raw right now imo.
 
He will be a walking holding penalty in the NFL without immediate improvement…

It’s all going to be about the kid and what’s between his ears, which we obviously don’t know as fans.

His technique as a whole needs a real overhaul.
While the highlights of the pancake blocks look sexy, he also has some downright bad tape. if he’s a willing learner and hard worker you obviously love the traits to turn into a great player. But if he’s stubborn or lazy I do think he can be a total bust, he’s that raw right now imo.

Check out some interviews with him and see what you think.
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I doubt the kid signs off on any type of risk.

If Green and/or Johnson is there, that's the pick.

If both are gone, then Jerry probably gets his WR.
 

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