Tyler Smith in the 1st round

Stash said:
I think they see the physical talents and a moldable piece of clay that has the potential to be dominant. He’s a heck of a roll of the dice.
Click to expand...
I wouldn't hate him at 24. If you can secure your future LT in the draft without moving up, that would be a huge win. Definitely a roll of the dice, but the payoff if you hit is big. He can play OG early
 
Aven8 said:
I heard on the Fan today that they are in love with Penning.
Click to expand...

Ugh. This is one guy I just don't like. I have no good explanation for it. I just think he's overrated.
 
Stash said:
Exactly my thinking as well.
Click to expand...
You just have to live with the possibility that for 2022 you may be replacing Conner Williams with another Conner Williams. But that being a reason to dislike the pick is short sighted
 
darthseinfeld said:
You just have to live with the possibility that for 2022 you may be replacing Conner Williams with another Conner Williams. But that being a reason to dislike the pick is short sighted
Click to expand...

The one thing we won’t have is a liability in the power department bullies by physical defensive tackles. Even with bad technique at times, Tyler Smith doesn’t get bowled over.
 
Stash said:
The one thing we won’t have is a liability in the power department bullies by physical defensive tackles. Even with bad technique at times, Tyler Smith doesn’t get bowled over.
Click to expand...
I dont think its unreasonable to think rookie and mini camps, OT's and TC could overhaul his mechanics enough to be a playable OG in 2022
 
Jbone100 said:
I've flipped on him. I was against it when he first started flying up boards but the more I've seen the more I've come around. Some in the media are labeling him as boom/bust project with elite measurables/testing but I don't think that's entirely fair. I wouldn't bet on him becoming an elite tackle, but IMO, the following traits mean his floor isn't as low as some are indicating:
  • Already an elite run blocker
  • Excellent testing/measurables
  • Can likely kick inside to guard to start out
Despite his late in the process rise, lower level of competition, and having plenty of warts in pass blocking against finesse rushers, that doesn't sound like a player with a terribly low floor to me. Granted, Linderbaum, K. Green and Z. Johnson have a good bit higher floors but I would be ok with the pick if we took Smith based on his ceiling.
Click to expand...
Moving to OG makes him a safe pick.

Physical ability to play LT makes him a high up side pick.

His issues in college were due to playing LT without proper technique.

Physical ability can outweigh technique at OG but not at LT.

He could easily become a better OG than Green.
 
Jbone100 said:
I've flipped on him. I was against it when he first started flying up boards but the more I've seen the more I've come around. Some in the media are labeling him as boom/bust project with elite measurables/testing but I don't think that's entirely fair. I wouldn't bet on him becoming an elite tackle, but IMO, the following traits mean his floor isn't as low as some are indicating:
  • Already an elite run blocker
  • Excellent testing/measurables
  • Can likely kick inside to guard to start out
Despite his late in the process rise, lower level of competition, and having plenty of warts in pass blocking against finesse rushers, that doesn't sound like a player with a terribly low floor to me. Granted, Linderbaum, K. Green and Z. Johnson have a good bit higher floors but I would be ok with the pick if we took Smith based on his ceiling.
Click to expand...
If he had played OG full time in college instead of LT, he would be considered a high floor, high ceiling player.

Often, his pass blocking technique at LG was basically like a run blocking technique. He would step into pass rushers instead of backing up.

He was obsessed with putting defenders on their back.
 
Stash said:
We’ll see if some team does. If you think he can be the next Larry Allen, you don’t hesitate. That’s why you pay scouts and it’s also why the draft isn’t an exact science.



No. But you can thoroughly interview the young man and vet him out through coaches and teammates as well. Do the homework and there’s less chance of a miss.



I attribute that to over aggressiveness and a lack of technique, all things that can be resolved through coaching in my opinion.

I think that working inside at guard he would be less extended and see less because of just that. Add in good coaching (if you feel Philbin can provide) and you may ultimately have a dominant force.

Personally, I wouldn’t hate it if we took him at #24 and would be very intrigued to see how he developed.
Click to expand...
Once again in love with more potential than his game film shows.
I love how you think that being coachable will cure all ills.
He would be eaten alive by ALL the better pass rushers in the NFL as he is now.
And who is to say he will improve enough?
TOO MUCH RISK for #24
 
terra said:
Once again in love with more potential than his game film shows.
I love how you think that being coachable will cure all ills.
He would be eaten alive by ALL the better pass rushers in the NFL as he is now.
And who is to say he will improve enough?
TOO MUCH RISK for #24
Click to expand...
You don't have game film...
 
  • Like
Reactions: BAT
terra said:
Once again in love with more potential than his game film shows.
I love how you think that being coachable will cure all ills.
He would be eaten alive by ALL the better pass rushers in the NFL as he is now.
And who is to say he will improve enough?
TOO MUCH RISK for #24
Click to expand...

Thanks for sharing your opinion.
:thumbup:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Staff online

Members online

... and 92 more.
Total: 1,062 (members: 192, guests: 870)

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
465,493
Messages
13,878,594
Members
23,791
Latest member
mashburn
Back
Top