Tyson Clabo

[Kristen82]

Because the draft might not turn out that way. No one wants Dallas to reach for an OT in the first and let a player graded much higher on their board go by. And after the first round, you don't know if the player is going to turn out to be Flozell Adams or Solomon Page.

I'd rather have linemen already in hand rather than miss on the opportunity to draft them and have the free agents we want then choose to sign elsewhere.

Good points you and xwalker and tm119 and honyock. If Fluker is still there @ 18 though and he's the highest rated guy on our board at that point, maybe he's worth it at that pick. Or, if the top 3 OT's are gone, why not try to trade down to the low-20's and grab a guy like Menelik or Pugh? Menelik is less polished at this point than Parnell, but he maybe has more upside. Pugh's arms are maybe a little short but still a decent OT prospect.

 

[Stash]

I didn't see it mentioned around here but Broaddus was saying the other day that he talked to people and that the Cowboys would like Clabo but want his price to come down. What he is asking for right now is a lot of the cap room we have and they would rather wait.

I wanted Clabo last year and he was cut because they need to sign Ryan and Jones shortly and not necessarily because he declining significantly as a player. Getting Clabo and drafting an interior lineman would go a long way towards addressing our issues up front.

Agreed.

 

[Fredd]

Good points you and xwalker and tm119 and honyock. If Fluker is still there @ 18 though and he's the highest rated guy on our board at that point, maybe he's worth it at that pick. Or, if the top 3 OT's are gone, why not try to trade down to the low-20's and grab a guy like Menelik or Pugh? Menelik is less polished at this point than Parnell, but he maybe has more upside. Pugh's arms are maybe a little short but still a decent OT prospect.

If they are looking at Fluker as a Guard, then I would consider him there, but I still see him more in the 25 range...I could be wrong, but he just doesn't seem mobile enough to me to play RT and I think that his girth fits nicely into the Guard role...I think he would be a reach at #18

 

[xwalker]

Good points you and xwalker and tm119 and honyock. If Fluker is still there @ 18 though and he's the highest rated guy on our board at that point, maybe he's worth it at that pick. Or, if the top 3 OT's are gone, why not try to trade down to the low-20's and grab a guy like Menelik or Pugh? Menelik is less polished at this point than Parnell, but he maybe has more upside. Pugh's arms are maybe a little short but still a decent OT prospect.

I would take Menelik Watson over Fluker to play OT. He has really good anchor strength and is much more athletic than Fluker. Like Fluker, I think he could also play OG if Parnell turns out to be the real deal at RT. The issue with Watson as you alluded to is his readiness to play. I don't know if he can play this year and teams normally want non-QB 1st round picks to challenge for a starting spot in year 1. It would be easier if he was a DL because he could gradually get snaps in a rotation, but at OT, it's a different situation.

I'm not a fan of Pugh, especially at OT. I don't know if there are any OTs in the NFL with 31.5" arms, but that's not his biggest issue. He has very minimal anchor strength. Check out his play in the Senior Bowl. He got destroyed by Cornelius Washington who is projected to be a 5th round pick. I can only imagine what JPP and those types would do to him.

There are a couple of OTs projected to be available in the 3rd to 5th rounds that I think could play this year if they recover from injury. Chris Faulk and Brennen Williams look like they will be solid NFL players. Williams is expected to be ready by training camp. He had a shoulder injury that I believe didn't require surgery.

Faulk is a higher rated player but he is probably farther away from a complete recovery. He tore an ACL in September of 2012. Faulk has the build to move to Guard, but Williams appears to be an OT only. I might just roll the dice with a combination of Parnell and one of these players. I would prefer Parnell at RT over either Livings or Bernadeau at OG. If Faulk is not ready immediately, there is a 2nd year player on the roster (Darrion Weems) that was a fairly good college LT at Oregon. He might be good enough to be Parnell's backup while Faulk is recovering from his injury.

 

[TwentyOne]

I'd guess his thoughts based on the below. It kinda goes south when it mentions our power blocking scheme too.

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Cowboys "remain interested" in free agent RTs Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston.
La Canfora believes Clabo would be Dallas' "guy" over Winston if given the choice, but the team needs to clear more salary cap space. Clabo fits the Cowboys' power-blocking scheme much better than Winston.

I doubt we have a power blocking scheme this upcoming season.

Anyways i'd like us to get him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's hard to shuffle out stretch plays and cut block when defenders are submarining the line out of a 4 point stance so the linebackers can swarm the point of attack.

At certain points you have to be able to man up and drive guys out of the hole. I love flare screens, stretch plays and other zone plays but it's drive blocking that gets you in the end zone inside the 10 and closes out games.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Twitter will be the death of sports journalism. I mean, it was bad enough already but now that you can simply by pass an editor, forget it.

Then blame it on the public consumption of the media, not the media themselves.

The public dictates which direction the media turns to. Long, print journalism is dead because the public does not consume it like it used to. Either the media evolved, or go bankrupt.

 

[TwentyOne]

Then blame it on the public consumption of the media, not the media themselves.

The public dictates which direction the media turns to. Long, print journalism is dead because the public does not consume it like it used to. Either the media evolved, or go bankrupt.

First of all sport writers have nothig to do with journalism.

And i do think you can demand from them to make decsend reasearch before making it public. Especially when they earn their money with those things.

Making the public responsible for believing the BS most of them are posting is just too simple IMO. Thats they way politics works these days ..... noone taking responsibiitiy nor knowing what they are talking about . Very very disapointing. But then again it's more the system thats bad not the polititians themself.

 

[Kristen82]

If they are looking at Fluker as a Guard, then I would consider him there, but I still see him more in the 25 range...I could be wrong, but he just doesn't seem mobile enough to me to play RT and I think that his girth fits nicely into the Guard role...I think he would be a reach at #18

Wouldn't Fluker's immobility work against him at G too? You need to pull and act as the lead blocker for your RB on sweeps and you need to lead block on screens too. Plus playing inside you need to be short and have a low centre of gravity so you don't get knocked off your feet that easily. Fluker's 6'6" - more tackle-sized.

 

[xwalker]

Wouldn't Fluker's immobility work against him at G too? You need to pull and act as the lead blocker for your RB on sweeps and you need to lead block on screens too. Plus playing inside you need to be short and have a low centre of gravity so you don't get knocked off your feet that easily. Fluker's 6'6" - more tackle-sized.

Fluker has better speed than quickness, if that makes any sense. He struggles with quickness off-the-snap, but once he gets moving in space he is actually better. Warmack is the opposite. His 1st step is OK but if he has to move very far his lack of foot speed becomes a problem.

Fluker is 6'4'-5/8. I think his college roster might have listed him at 6-6.

I'm not certain that Fluker would have enough foot speed to be great in Callahan's ZBS at Guard; however, he does have better foot speed (5.31 forty) than Warmack (5.49) or Warford (5.58).

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fluker has better speed than quickness, if that makes any sense. He struggles with quickness off-the-snap, but once he gets moving in space he is actually better. Warmack is the opposite. His 1st step is OK but if he has to move very far his lack of foot speed becomes a problem.

Fluker is 6'4'-5/8. I think his college roster might have listed him at 6-6.

I'm not certain that Fluker would have enough foot speed to be great in Callahan's ZBS at Guard; however, he does have better foot speed (5.31 forty) than Warmack (5.49) or Warford (5.58).

Fluker ran the same shuttle time (5.00) as Warmack (5.01). Fluker did not run the 3-cone but Warmack (7.93) did and was bad.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that Fluker lacks the quickness to pass block guys like JPP, Orakpo, and Tuck. He is 25 pounds heavier than Warmack though but runs better and is as quick.

I am baffled as to why Fluker is being said to not be able to play guard. I have seen him dominate DT like Jenkins in the run game. He said at the combine that he is open to playing guard. Now he is not in the conversation as a guard.

If the Cowboys are looking into getting Clabo than I cannot see how Fluker could not fit into what they are thinking.