Tyson Thompson. Discuss among yourselves

[GimmeTheBall!]

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Tyson Thompson ran with authority.

Would you say his value as trade bait went up considerably?

Would you say he might have taken a commanding lead over Battle?

Can we even imagine TT being go-to guy instead of either JJ or MB?

I think Wade just upped his trade value a lot.
I still say it would be great to see TT a lot every game. But I wouldn't mind his being cast for a draft choice.
Some say my idea for a second-rounder was outlandish. I say an Arizona or Oakland would be crazy enough.

Or, a tantalizing notion: Would Wade be crazy enough to rotate all three? Talk about changes of paces.

Talk amongst yourself, fellow miscreants.


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[CrazyCowboy]

TT deserves to play......I will give him that.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

TT deserves to play......I will give him that.

Why do you torment me with you volatile, incendiary remarks!

 

[03EBZ06]

TT had a very good game but keep in mind that he played against second strings, not starters.

If he can run like that against the starters then I would be ecstatic but I'll hold my enthusiasm until he can produce against the starters.

 

[Blake]

I would love to see wade rotate all 3 if tyson is really this good but that would never bode well with Barber and Jujo who both want their share of the ball.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

TT had a very good game but keep in mind that he played against second strings, not starters.

If he can run like that against the starters then I would be ecstatic but I'll hold my enthusiasm until he can produce against the starters.

and he had second and third stringers blocking for him.............

Wade said in his PC he was going to play him a little with the starters

 

[Cowboys22]

If Thompson can do that in a rwal game against starters then the smart thing to do would be to trade JJ for a pick or a decent CB. He's going to be gone next year anyway and an MBIII & Thompson combo could be just as good!

 

[Vintage]

No, he would not fetch a day one pick.

If lucky, a 5th.

 

[Jimz31]

There's a reason why I rarely put much stock into pre-season games....the banter of who should be our RB every pre-season is one reason why.

 

[JackMagist]

I think TT has upped his value to the team and that value could be manifested in a number of ways.

1) Give him more carries as the #3 RB and have a true RB by committee (not my favorite idea but a possibility).

2) Trade him as you suggested for a draft choice if we can get a high enough pick for him (not likely to get more than a 4th for him IMO...and that is if we are very lucky)

3) Promote MBIII to #1 feature back (an idea I am warming up to) and promote TT to #2 change of pace RB (looking like he is about ready for that type of role) and trade JJ for the draft pick (I think we can still get more for JJ than for TT and I'm not so sure that JJ is that much if any better anymore...TT is improving his game and JJ seems to have hit a wall).

Personally I am leaning toward #3 but I want to see some more of all three backs. Also, I would like to see TT working with the first team before making any kind of drastic moves. I will say that MBIII has surpassed JJ in my book; I like his hard nosed running style and his productivity. This is hard for me because I was a believer in JJ for the first couple of years. But he did not take off like I felt that he should have last year and I haven't seen enough from him so far this year.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

There's a reason why I rarely put much stock into pre-season games....the banter of who should be our RB every pre-season is one reason why.

So what's wrong with that?
I'd like to know.

Optimism doesn't come in a minute. Sometimes it doesn't come at all.

What a grouch.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think TT has upped his value to the team and that value could be manifested in a number of ways.

1) Give him more carries as the #3 RB and have a true RB by committee (not my favorite idea but a possibility).

2) Trade him as you suggested for a draft choice if we can get a high enough pick for him (not likely to get more than a 4th for him IMO...and that is if we are very lucky)

3) Promote MBIII to #1 feature back (an idea I am warming up to) and promote TT to #2 change of pace RB (looking like he is about ready for that type of role) and trade JJ for the draft pick (I think we can still get more for JJ than for TT and I'm not so sure that JJ is that much if any better anymore...TT is improving his game and JJ seems to have hit a wall).

Personally I am leaning toward #3 but I want to see some more of all three backs. Also, I would like to see TT working with the first team before making any kind of drastic moves. I will say that MBIII has surpassed JJ in my book; I like his hard nosed running style and his productivity. This is hard for me because I was a believer in JJ for the first couple of years. But he did not take off like I felt that he should have last year and I haven't seen enough from him so far this year.

So you are saying, I am sort of a genius?

 

[JackMagist]

So you are saying, I am sort of a genius?

Let's not get carried away

 

[Jimz31]

So what's wrong with that?
I'd like to know.

Optimism doesn't come in a minute. Sometimes it doesn't come at all.

What a grouch.

Nothing wrong with it....it's just gets old with people thinking that what they see in the pre-season is what will be during the regular season.

Go back and look at the early 90's during our SB runs....we didn't have great pre-season's.

Last year, wasn't it Hurd that was tearing it up in pre-season? How many times did he hit the field? BP's fault? Maybe, but we aren't seeing alot of things that are going on in practice either.

It goes on and on...........

 

[JackMagist]

Nothing wrong with it....it's just gets old with people thinking that what they see in the pre-season is what will be during the regular season.

Go back and look at the early 90's during our SB runs....we didn't have great pre-season's.

Last year, wasn't it Hurd that was tearing it up in pre-season? How many times did he hit the field? BP's fault? Maybe, but we aren't seeing alot of things that are going on in practice either.

It goes on and on...........

So you are saying that we should just shut down the board and not discuss anything?

What am I missing here?

 

[Jimz31]

So you are saying that we should just shut down the board and not discuss anything?

What am I missing here?

Ummm...my point was that I don't put as much significance on the pre-season. Is that a problem?

Should I get an ulcer over pre-season? Should I watch a guy tear it up against 3rd stringers, etc., and assume the guy could do the exact same thing against guys who will actually start?

 

[Parche]

I wouldnt make any trade until next off season... Lets give JJ and MBIII a full season more to watch what they have, and play TT as much as we can on regular-season level...

Then, you can start thinking bout trading or anything like that.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Nothing wrong with it....it's just gets old with people thinking that what they see in the pre-season is what will be during the regular season.

Go back and look at the early 90's during our SB runs....we didn't have great pre-season's.

Last year, wasn't it Hurd that was tearing it up in pre-season? How many times did he hit the field? BP's fault? Maybe, but we aren't seeing alot of things that are going on in practice either.

It goes on and on...........

Your first sentence is contradictory.

But let me say that you can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime you find you get what you need, i.e. a Tyson or a Stanback.
But here I go . . . again. Being impressed by promising players. But what is wrong with that? I'd like to know.

 

[Jimz31]

Your first two sentences are contradictory.

But let me say that you can't always get what you want. But if you try sometime you find you get what you need, i.e. a Tyson or a Stanback.
But here I go . . . again. Being impressed by promising players. But what is wrong with that? I'd like to know.

1. Nothing wrong with it....it's just gets old with people thinking that what they see in the pre-season is what will be during the regular season.

2. Go back and look at the early 90's during our SB runs....we didn't have great pre-season's.

How are they contradictory? What happened in the pre-seasons during our SB runs were NOT what happened in the regular season....which is my point.

Like I said, I don't put as much stock into the pre-season as some of you guys obviously do. Nothing wrong with watching promising players perform....I watch the pre-season for that purpose only. But I also have in the back of my mind that it's guys that will rarely see the field....especially early in the pre-season in the 4th qtr.

 

[JackMagist]

Ummm...my point was that I don't put as much significance on the pre-season. Is that a problem?

If I'm not mistaken the coaches make their decisions about personnel based on what they see in preseason for the most part...of course practice enters into it also but we here on the board do not all have access to training camp and practices. Since the discussion is about what we think the coaches should do preseason is all we have to go on.

Should I get an ulcer over pre-season? Should I watch a guy tear it up against 3rd stringers, etc., and assume the guy could do the exact same thing against guys who will actually start?

Of course we don't need to be getting any ulcers over it (that's a bit overly dramatic by the way). But when we see a guy tearing it up against 3rd stringers it's time to move him up a notch and see what he can do against better competition. That is the point of this discussion I believe.



So to get back on point…the point being (for those who may have missed it) “what is Tyson Thompson’s current value to the team?”

Now that he seems to have stepped up his game and seems to be getting used to the speed and learning the requirements (blocking etc.) of the NFL it seems that TT has improved his value to the team. Exactly how much has improved his value? I think we are all in agreement that we need to see him against better competition to make that determination. But I do think he has earned his shot at playing against that better comepition.