UFC 165 - Gustafsson got Robbed

[Kilyin]

He won that fight against Jon Jones. Great battle, but he won on the scorecards by my estimation.

 

[BigWillie]

Whoever the judge was that had it 49-46 for Jones should NEVER be allowed to judge a fight again.

I could see 48-47 for Jones. But that is only if you weight leg kicks > head strikes. Jones was peppering Gustafsson with low leg kicks in round 2. But Gustafsson was hitting less upstairs with strikes, but the strikes that were landing were damaging.

Gustafsson just left Jones' face an absolute train wreck.

Either way, that spinning back fist changed that fight. Gustafsson was cruising in that 4th round, until he got hit with that spinning elbow from *you know where*.

When Jones' face heals up, that rematch will happen.

Absolutely amazing fight.

 

[Kilyin]

Going to bed, but I definitely agree. I don't understand how that wasn't at least a split decision. Jones held his own, but not enough to win. Regardless, one of the best UFC fights I've seen.

 

[jterrell]

GREAT fight!
When it's that close the Champ always wins.

Bones showed more in this fight than he has in many losses.
Dealt with blood leaking into that eye for 4 rounds and soundly won final two.

I had 48-47 Jones, Wife had 48-47 Gus... very close and entertaining fight.

At least it makes a rematch watchable. Most of Jones' wins have been so easy you can't rematch them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It was an outstanding fight. One of the best I've ever seen. It was a super close fight and generally the super close fights are going to go to the Champion.

 

[trickblue]

 

[StarBoyz83]

Jones won the fight! Jones almost finished guf twice. Yes jones looked worse after but at no time during that fight was he hurt and in danger of losing. It was a great fight. It needs to be an immediate rematch though. glover is going to have to wait. If its not a rematch then they are screwing guf over.

 

[BigWillie]

Jones won the fight! Jones almost finished guf twice.

Once. In the 4th. In a round he was soundly losing before he landed that HUGE spinning back elbow.

But hurting a fighter is not a premise for winning fights, especially under MMA scoring.

For instance, if a fighter wins 4 rounds in an MMA fight by just lay-n-pray, with a dominant top control game. But in the 5th round, the guy gets rocked and stays in danger of getting stopped, who won the fight? The fighter that controlled the pace of the majority of the fight, or the fighter who won a single round?

The fight is scored on a round by round basis, not in a small bubble of moments during the fight.

I mean, if we go down that road, how are we to overlook that the doctor nearly stopped Jones from continuing before the 5th round? It makes a case that Gustafsson was darn close to stopping that fight himself.

Granted, I do believe anyone who scored the fight 48-47 either way is not wrong. But the premise that Jon won the fight simply because he came closer to stopping the fight just isn't a good basis on who wins a fight.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Once. In the 4th. In a round he was soundly losing before he landed that HUGE spinning back elbow.

But hurting a fighter is not a premise for winning fights, especially under MMA scoring.

For instance, if a fighter wins 4 rounds in an MMA fight by just lay-n-pray, with a dominant top control game. But in the 5th round, the guy gets rocked and stays in danger of getting stopped, who won the fight? The fighter that controlled the pace of the majority of the fight, or the fighter who won a single round?

The fight is scored on a round by round basis, not in a small bubble of moments during the fight.

I mean, if we go down that road, how are we to overlook that the doctor nearly stopped Jones from continuing before the 5th round? It makes a case that Gustafsson was darn close to stopping that fight himself.

Granted, I do believe anyone who scored the fight 48-47 either way is not wrong. But the premise that Jon won the fight simply because he came closer to stopping the fight just isn't a good basis on who wins a fight.

It was no doubt a close fight. I thought it would be a split for jones or jones by one round. I have no idea what fight the one judge was watching.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm glad he's buckled in. It'd be a shame for him to fall off the stretcher and bust up his face.

 

[Ren]

Jones doesn't want a rematch he want to answer the critics of this fight by fighting someone else

 

[jterrell]

It was an outstanding fight. One of the best I've ever seen. It was a super close fight and generally the super close fights are going to go to the Champion.

probably should have closed the thread after this above.
now it'll go to fan/hater wars.

Watched fight again. I had it 3-2 for Jones. VERY close.
Damage was fairly even.
Jones face was a mess, but Gus leg and side of his head were screwed too.
He had staples in his head in the photo above.
Both displayed great heart and it came down to winning the late rounds as most championship fights do.
I had Jones down 2-1 entering 4; but he landed the elbow to the head and got the takedown in 4. Controlled 5 with better slightly better cardio and work rate.

A bigger fan of both guys after the fight.
This is why I can't watch boxing anymore.