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i think forrest best shot was a draw. i had page winning rounds 1,3, and 4. you gotta do more than forrest did to take a belt. and a ud for forrest????!!!!! some judge had it 49-46 for forrest. bs decision imo and i hope page gets a rematch right away if his leg is ok.
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Rampage;2136377 said:
I agree. Did you see how much Goldberg and Joe were pulling for Forrest? ******** Joe was acting like Forrest was killing Page or something. UFC most have really wanted him to win.
I'll give it up for Forrest though, he did good. I wish Rampage would have finished him when he had Forrest beat in the first round. 49-46 though? That is ridiculous. If Page would have fought more in the last round he would have won the decision.
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Rampage;2136781 said:
aye man can i get that link? i went out fishin opposted to going to the bar and watchin the fight. Thanks R'page
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Did Rampage get screwed?
By NEIL SPRINGER -- SLAM! Sports
It’s the morning after UFC 86 and many fans are posting their displeasure over Forrest Griffin’s title win. Some are calling it bad judging, others say it was a fix and then there are the nut bars who claim it is the result of a conspiracy helmed by the ‘evil’ Dana White.
This is nothing new for the online mixed-martial arts community. You can’t go one event without someone making an asinine claim based on little evidence.
However, the scoring for last night’s main event certainly makes little sense, supporting the claim that the judges are either blind or stupid.
Judge Adalaide Byrd gave rounds one, two and three to Griffin, with the second round being scored 10-8. This gives us a total of 48-46 for Griffin.
Nelson Hamilton had rounds two, three and five for Griffin. He also scored the second 10-8. This adds up to 48-46 for Griffin.
Finally, Roy Silbert gave Griffin every round except for the fourth. The second was also scored a 10-8. So this totals 49-46 for Griffin.
So we have two judges giving the first round to Griffin, even though he almost had his head taken off. One of the main pieces of criteria for scoring a match is effective striking. The key word is effective. Jackson blasting Griffin and knocking him down was the most significant shot in that round.
They also didn’t take into consideration the fact that Jackson clearly came back strong to take the third round by dishing out more damage and staying out of harm’s way.
I actually had the bout scored as a draw with Griffin taking rounds two (10-8) and five, thus giving us a total of 47-47.
So what does this all mean? It was a super close fight and it really could have gone either way. Though I disagree with the judges’ score cards, the rules are left so open to interpretation that things like this are bound to happen.
Regardless, a rematch needs to be signed so we can find out who the better man is.
By NEIL SPRINGER -- SLAM! Sports
It’s the morning after UFC 86 and many fans are posting their displeasure over Forrest Griffin’s title win. Some are calling it bad judging, others say it was a fix and then there are the nut bars who claim it is the result of a conspiracy helmed by the ‘evil’ Dana White.
This is nothing new for the online mixed-martial arts community. You can’t go one event without someone making an asinine claim based on little evidence.
However, the scoring for last night’s main event certainly makes little sense, supporting the claim that the judges are either blind or stupid.
Judge Adalaide Byrd gave rounds one, two and three to Griffin, with the second round being scored 10-8. This gives us a total of 48-46 for Griffin.
Nelson Hamilton had rounds two, three and five for Griffin. He also scored the second 10-8. This adds up to 48-46 for Griffin.
Finally, Roy Silbert gave Griffin every round except for the fourth. The second was also scored a 10-8. So this totals 49-46 for Griffin.
So we have two judges giving the first round to Griffin, even though he almost had his head taken off. One of the main pieces of criteria for scoring a match is effective striking. The key word is effective. Jackson blasting Griffin and knocking him down was the most significant shot in that round.
They also didn’t take into consideration the fact that Jackson clearly came back strong to take the third round by dishing out more damage and staying out of harm’s way.
I actually had the bout scored as a draw with Griffin taking rounds two (10-8) and five, thus giving us a total of 47-47.
So what does this all mean? It was a super close fight and it really could have gone either way. Though I disagree with the judges’ score cards, the rules are left so open to interpretation that things like this are bound to happen.
Regardless, a rematch needs to be signed so we can find out who the better man is.
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ufc 86 conference call notes
-Dana White thanked everyone for attending the event this past weekend, said that they will be back again with the best pound for pound fighter facing off on july 19th and told everyone it would be a great fight.
-Said that Rampage would need a win against a top guy to get another title shot and stating that there is a rematch with Wanderlei still out there...
-Dana mentioned that Patrick Cote would be fighting sometime in October again, probably on the Leben, Bisping card and said that card will come out with more great fights..
-He said Liddell and Evans would be the number one contender and the winner of that would fight in December, thats if the winner comes off Injury free.
-Thanked Forrest for his efforts and said this is a example of what the Ultimate fighter can do for a guys like him.
-Quoted that Josh is a great athlete, but needs some more wins to get a title shot...
-He ended by saying Forrest will have a title defense in September, and October and will fight again in December in the main card if he defends
his title in Sept, October.
possible projection of ufc 205 title picture
Dave Meltzer is reporting exclusively on the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that Dana White and Joe Silva have already have "an idea" in regards to the 205 lb title picture. Dave believes every source within the UFC believes that the winner of Liddell/Evans fight is going to be the next challenger for the Light Heavyweight Crown recently won by Forrest Griffin. The timing at which the fight takes place depends on who wins the fight. If Liddell were the victor, the title fight would take almost immediately at the year-end December event from Las Vegas with Forrest Griffin. Although none of the UFC personalities would admit who they are rooting for between Evans/Liddell, it is pretty apparent they want the latter to emerge victorious. A fight between Liddell and Forrest Griffin could very well break the Pay-Per-View and Gate records set by UFC 66 (Liddell/Ortiz II). The UFC officials are not sure when a Griffin/Evans fight would take place, but they believe it would not happen this year.
As for the future of Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, it is believed that his next opponent will be none other than nemesis Wanderlei Silva. This could fight could very well happen later this year in November, at UFC 90. Dave Meltzer also believes that if Liddell recaptures the Light Heavyweight Crown, Silva/Liddell II will be for the Light Heavyweight Championship at the "Super Bowl" event in February. As for Lyoto Machida, most sources believe he is a possibility for Jackson as well, but maintain that his next fight is likely against Thiago Silva instead.
Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
-Dana White thanked everyone for attending the event this past weekend, said that they will be back again with the best pound for pound fighter facing off on july 19th and told everyone it would be a great fight.
-Said that Rampage would need a win against a top guy to get another title shot and stating that there is a rematch with Wanderlei still out there...
-Dana mentioned that Patrick Cote would be fighting sometime in October again, probably on the Leben, Bisping card and said that card will come out with more great fights..
-He said Liddell and Evans would be the number one contender and the winner of that would fight in December, thats if the winner comes off Injury free.
-Thanked Forrest for his efforts and said this is a example of what the Ultimate fighter can do for a guys like him.
-Quoted that Josh is a great athlete, but needs some more wins to get a title shot...
-He ended by saying Forrest will have a title defense in September, and October and will fight again in December in the main card if he defends
his title in Sept, October.
possible projection of ufc 205 title picture
Dave Meltzer is reporting exclusively on the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that Dana White and Joe Silva have already have "an idea" in regards to the 205 lb title picture. Dave believes every source within the UFC believes that the winner of Liddell/Evans fight is going to be the next challenger for the Light Heavyweight Crown recently won by Forrest Griffin. The timing at which the fight takes place depends on who wins the fight. If Liddell were the victor, the title fight would take almost immediately at the year-end December event from Las Vegas with Forrest Griffin. Although none of the UFC personalities would admit who they are rooting for between Evans/Liddell, it is pretty apparent they want the latter to emerge victorious. A fight between Liddell and Forrest Griffin could very well break the Pay-Per-View and Gate records set by UFC 66 (Liddell/Ortiz II). The UFC officials are not sure when a Griffin/Evans fight would take place, but they believe it would not happen this year.
As for the future of Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, it is believed that his next opponent will be none other than nemesis Wanderlei Silva. This could fight could very well happen later this year in November, at UFC 90. Dave Meltzer also believes that if Liddell recaptures the Light Heavyweight Crown, Silva/Liddell II will be for the Light Heavyweight Championship at the "Super Bowl" event in February. As for Lyoto Machida, most sources believe he is a possibility for Jackson as well, but maintain that his next fight is likely against Thiago Silva instead.
Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
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Of course make Rampage fight Silva who is a much better fighter than Forrest.
What a frickin screw job.
The grand scheme is to put the belt back on Chuck and its obvious if Rampage isn' the #1 contender.
I hope Reshad Evans beats Chuck.
What a frickin screw job.
The grand scheme is to put the belt back on Chuck and its obvious if Rampage isn' the #1 contender.
I hope Reshad Evans beats Chuck.
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Bored by the UFC. Would rather watch Affliction, Elite, and Dream. Former pride nuthugger here. Tired of Dana. What happen to the days when a fighter would fight 3 or 4 times in a day? Those were the days. Pride Eliminations were the best...
FEDOR BY THE IRONCLAW. I'm so glad Fedor didn't finalize a deal with the UFC.
FEDOR BY THE IRONCLAW. I'm so glad Fedor didn't finalize a deal with the UFC.
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Rampage;2137393 said:
Watch Machida end up with the belt some how and we have to watch Chuck chase him around the ring for 25 minutes.
QuanTran;2137481 said:
Its hard to not watch the UFC when they have, for the most part, the best fighters in the world.
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the ufc will do everything they can to prevent Machida from getting the belt. I'm a former Pride fan too but ufc is all there really is that i have interest for. I will be watching affliction to see all them guys but elitexc sucks and i'm not impressed by Dream.
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QuanTran;2137481 said:
I was a giant Pride fanboy. Pride had the best fighters and put on the best shows. I think Affliction is going to be awesome and I hope Fedor destroys Tim. I also like Dream because I'm a Cro-Cop fanboy...But they need to get more fighters.
I hate Elite XC with a passion. Bad reffing, bad cut doctors and they want Kimbo to win at all cost. Gary Shaw is a very shady dude. I still watch EXC only because of Gina, Diaz and Phil Baroni.