Ummm, We're 6-2 with Tony Romo as our starting Quarterback

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Say what you want about all of these injuries - and yes, they have plagued us ALL season long, with and without Romo as our starting QB - but did you realize that with Romo as our starting QB the Cowboys have a record of 6 and 2? That's a .75 winning percentage, compared to the .33 winning percentage (i.e. going 1 and 2) WITHOUT Romo manning the QB spot.

So even with all these injuries, don't you find that .75 winning percentage quite remarkable? By the way, it translates to a 12 and 4 regular season record if projected out to 16 games. That's near-pace with last year's 13 and 3 record, aside from the fact that the division was weaker last season and the Cowboys were virtually injury-free.

So why all the doom and gloom?

Maybe it’s because the perception is that the team is winning ugly all too often, but the point is, that with Romo as the QB, the Cowboys ARE winning -- and they're not necessarily doing it in ugly fashion either with Romo as the starter. And given all the injuries, the record with Romo is impressive enough that we can safely conclude that, as long as Romo stays healthy, the Cowboys are overcoming their injury woes.

I think that speaks well to the depth of this team and the players' focus -- and specifically Tony Romo's leadership on the field and sidelines. That’s why I view the last two wins with Romo back as good indication that we will beat Seattle and open a lot of doubters’ eyes down the stretch. Only I’m not one of those doubters. I expect the winning to continue with Romo as the starting QB, and that's with all these injuries.

Yes, my eyes are quite wide-open right now. Aint "Perspective" a real BEACH?

Discuss! :D
 

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Great post BTW. I think that after Wade took over the defense, things have changed. And I know we lost a home-run hitter in Felix, but having Williams is slowly going to take it's affect on defenses, along with the emergence of Bennett.
 

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One thing I did notice was that the defense was crowding the line of scrimmage a lot on the Niners.

That may be because of their lack of a top flight WR and the QB's ability to get the ball there. But at least we are changing it up and moving it around.

There was also some short stunts run up on the defensive front this week.
 

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The "doom and gloom" isn't about whether we are or aren't a better team with Tony at QB. That isn't even debatable. Of course we are.

Here are the current Division Leaders

1. Giants, 10-1
2. Buccaneers, 8-3
3. Cardinals, 7-4
4. Bears, 6-5

Which means we are in the Wildcard picture. Where do we stand in that picture?

5. Panthers, 8-3
6. Commanders, 7-4, 6-3 vs. NFC
7. Falcons, 7-4, 5-3 vs. NFC
8. Cowboys, 7-4, 5-4 in the NFC
9. Vikings, 6-5, 4-3 in the NFC
10. Saints, 6-5, 3-4 in the NFC

There's no room for error. That is why the "doom and gloom."
 

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Adding "ummm" to the title of this thread really gave it dramatic impact.
 

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Not to continue the Doom and Gloom. But wouldnt, based on this logic, the record be 10-6 since you have to adjust for the games that Tony could actually appear in? .75% of 13 games is 9.75 wins.

Just saying...
 

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It is in our best interests that Carolina beat out Tampa Bay in the NFC South. The reason is simple, we beat Tampa head to head, so we own that tie breaker.

Here are the remaining games for the teams we are watching closely, and the remaining games for us.


Cowboys, Opponents Winning % .593

vs. Seahawks, 2-9
@ Steelers, 8-3
vs. Giants, 10-1
vs. Ravens, 7-4
@ Eagles, 5-5-1


Buccaneers, Opponents Winning % .509


vs. Saints, 6-5
@ Panthers, 8-3
@ Falcons, 7-4
vs. Chargers, 4-7
vs. Raiders, 3-8


Panthers, Opponents Winning % .636


@ Packers, 5-6
vs. Buccaneers, 8-3
vs. Broncos, 6-5
@ Giants, 10-1
@ Saints, 6-5


Falcons, Opponents Winning % .473

@ Chargers, 4-7
@ Saints, 6-5
vs. Buccaneers, 8-3
@ Vikings, 6-5
vs. Rams, 2-9


Commanders, Opponents Winning % .481


vs. Giants, 10-1
@ Ravens, 7-4
@ Bengals, 1-9-1
vs. Eagles, 5-5-1
@ 49ers, 3-8


Vikings, Opponents Winning % .545

vs. Bears, 6-5
@ Lions, 0-11
@ Cardinals, 7-4
vs. Falcons, 7-4
vs. Giants, 10-1


Bears, Opponents Winning % .455


@ Vikings, 6-5
vs. Jaguars, 4-7
vs. Saints, 6-5
vs. Packers, 5-6
@ Texans, 4-7


Saints, Opponents Winning % .527


@ Buccaneers, 8-3
vs. Falcons, 7-4
@ Bears, 6-5
@ Lions, 0-11
vs. Panthers, 8-3



As you can see we have by far the hardest remaining schedule after the Panters, and once we get past this week's opponent it really gets hard. Let's not forget as well that since 1997 (the year our spiral down started) this team has been fading post-Thanksgiving. It is an alarming trend. Here are our records after Dead Bird Day since 1997, and our playoff results.

1997...0-4
1998...2-2, 0-1
1999...2-3, 0-1
2000...1-3
2001...3-3
2002...0-4
2003...2-2, 0-1
2004...2-3
2005...2-3
2006...2-3, 0-1
2007...3-2, 0-1

That is 19-32, 0-5.

Throw on top of this Wade's record in the post season, 0-4, and there is good cause for "doom and gloom."
 

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javera;2442081 said:
Not to continue the Doom and Gloom. But wouldnt, based on this logic, the record be 10-6 since you have to adjust for the games that Tony could actually appear in? .75% of 13 games is 9.75 wins.

Just saying...

My guess was that he took it like this...8 games 6-2. So if you doubled that for 16 is where he got 12-4.


And the playoff picture indeed scares me a bit just because of the situation we're in. We really, really, really need the Saints to beat the Falcons and Panthers in their second go around with them and the GMen should take care of the Skins for us this week to give us a chance to get back ahead of them but then we need someone else to knock them off at least once more the rest of the way. Hopefully Philly can show up and play good against them one last time.
 

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Hostile;2442140 said:
It is in our best interests that Carolina beat out Tampa Bay in the NFC South. The reason is simple, we beat Tampa head to head, so we own that tie breaker.
Not necessarily. I could see Carolina having trouble even getting to 10 wins. They've looked awful lately and have several tough games left. They don't have a single gimme on their schedule. I'm not a big believer in them.

Edit: Your math is off big time on Carolina. They have the toughest schedule.
 

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Double Trouble;2442146 said:
Not necessarily. I could see Carolina having trouble even getting to 10 wins. They've looked awful lately and have several tough games left. They don't have a single gimme on their schedule. I'm not a big believer in them.
Yes necessarily. At this point it is about advantages. They could right the ship just as we hope we are. We're not the only team capable of playing well.
 

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Hostile;2442150 said:
Yes necessarily. At this point it is about advantages. They could right the ship just as we hope we are. We're not the only team capable of playing well.
In a world where every team wins out, except in the games against each other, maybe.

We all know that isn't going to happen.
 

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Double Trouble;2442152 said:
In a world where every team wins out, except in the games against each other, maybe.

We all know that isn't going to happen.
It doesn't matter if any team wins out. We're talking about tie breakers. Not what ifs.

Advantages.
 

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Hostile;2442140 said:
As you can see we have by far the hardest remaining schedule and once we get past this week's opponent it really gets hard. Let's not forget as well that since 1997 (the year our spiral down started) this team has been fading post-Thanksgiving. It is an alarming trend. Here are our records after Dead Bird Day since 1997, and our playoff results.

1997...0-4
1998...2-2, 0-1
1999...2-3, 0-1
2000...1-3
2001...3-3
2002...0-4
2003...2-2, 0-1
2004...2-3
2005...2-3
2006...2-3, 0-1
2007...3-2, 0-1

That is 19-32, 0-5.

Throw on top of this Wade's record in the post season, 0-4, and there is good cause for "doom and gloom."

That 19-32 is a tad bit misleading though considering how bad we were from 2000-2003 where we went 5-11 every year. I mean that skews the numbers a bit. I do agree there is cause for concern but if you look at the last couple of years, especially, we were in the playoffs, basically, by the time our December slides really began and weren't in that backs against the wall mode. I think that's where those early losses this year help us in terms of being more focused, and ready, in December this year. I see 3-1 down the stretch in December to get us into the playoffs.
 

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Hostile;2442140 said:
As you can see we have by far the hardest remaining schedule and once we get past this week's opponent it really gets hard. Let's not forget as well that since 1997 (the year our spiral down started) this team has been fading post-Thanksgiving. It is an alarming trend. Here are our records after Dead Bird Day since 1997, and our playoff results.

1997...0-4
1998...2-2, 0-1
1999...2-3, 0-1
2000...1-3
2001...3-3
2002...0-4
2003...2-2, 0-1
2004...2-3
2005...2-3
2006...2-3, 0-1
2007...3-2, 0-1

That is 19-32, 0-5.

Throw on top of this Wade's record in the post season, 0-4, and there is good cause for "doom and gloom."

That's an interesting stat about the late season stuff. Our overall regular season record over that time is 93-94, meaning that our record pre-thanksgiving is 74-62 (0.544% winning percentage-- compared to 0.373% after thanksgiving).
 

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BraveHeartFan;2442164 said:
That 19-32 is a tad bit misleading though considering how bad we were from 2000-2003 where we went 5-11 every year. I mean that skews the numbers a bit. I do agree there is cause for concern but if you look at the last couple of years, especially, we were in the playoffs, basically, by the time our December slides really began and weren't in that backs against the wall mode. I think that's where those early losses this year help us in terms of being more focused, and ready, in December this year. I see 3-1 down the stretch in December to get us into the playoffs.
No it isn't. In 2 of the 3 years you are pointing your finger at we were .500 after Thanksgiving. They are 2 of the 5 "good years" listed.
 

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Hostile;2442063 said:
The "doom and gloom" isn't about whether we are or aren't a better team with Tony at QB. That isn't even debatable. Of course we are.

Here are the current Division Leaders

1. Giants, 10-1
2. Buccaneers, 8-3
3. Cardinals, 7-4
4. Bears, 6-5

Which means we are in the Wildcard picture. Where do we stand in that picture?

5. Panthers, 8-3
6. Commanders, 7-4, 6-3 vs. NFC
7. Falcons, 7-4, 5-3 vs. NFC
8. Cowboys, 7-4, 5-4 in the NFC
9. Vikings, 6-5, 4-3 in the NFC
10. Saints, 6-5, 3-4 in the NFC

There's no room for error. That is why the "doom and gloom."

:hammer:

Going through the motions and not playing with enthusiasm vs the Commanders and Cardinals really is going to hurt us long term.

All we can do to prevent it is win and if we don't win we aint makin the playoffs.

I doubt that 10-6 will get us in this year and I actually expect us to go 2-2 down the stretch.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2441969 said:
Say what you want about all of these injuries - and yes, they have plagued us ALL season long, with and without Romo as our starting QB - but did you realize that with Romo as our starting QB the Cowboys have a record of 6 and 2?

If Romo hadn't gotten injured at Arizona, it likely would be 7-1.
 

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AdamJT13;2442211 said:
If Romo hadn't gotten injured at Arizona, it likely would be 7-1.


But he did and the shame in that is that it was administered by teammates. It's a direct reflection of the half-effort, mistake-ridden football these guys were playing. Throw McBriar in that bag too. If...........I think not. Bound to happen? Yes. I want those 4 losses back.
 

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My only complaint with Romo's leadership abilities is, why weren't they in working order while he was injured? He should have been helping more on the sideline. This team, for 3 games, let our starting qb down, while he was down. A true leader doesn't except that. He's still working into that role of leader. A good "General" doesn't need to always be standing in the line of fire to get his point across- they should fight in his name no matter what. The Patriots sure aren't rolling over like we did. Telling me there are leaders there who won't except defeat, star quarterback standing under center or not.

Back in the day; Nobody would have wanted Aikman to come back and have to look him in the eye. With him or without him our team played to it's full potential and helped hold the fort down.

Come on Romo, you're close- bring it the rest of the way now!
 
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