Video: Undisputed on NFL and NFLPA statements

[jordan4vols]

Worth your watch. NFL getting raked over the coals for this.

 

[Montanalo]

Worth your watch. NFL getting raked over the coals for this.

I agree, well worth the time to watch this clip from Undisputed.

Not a big fan of Shannon Sharpe and certainly not a fan of Skip Bayless. Nevertheless, Sharpe and Bayless surprised me with their condemnation of the NFL and the Commissioner. For the most part, their conversation mirrors the vast majority of dialogue on the CZ. This won't turn me into an Undisputed fan. What it does though is present a view, far removed from the everyday Cowboy fan, that fundamentally discredits the NFL's actions

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Great clip.

 

[Doomsday]

Joy does look good with her hair like that and the twin-din-bergs on full display.

 

[Philmonroe]

Worth your watch. NFL getting raked over the coals for this.

You should post the first take version to see the difference in tone on this similar subject. I was kinda shocked about first games version but it was entertaining

 

[gimmesix]

I agree that the NFL cannot reduce the suspension as long as they classify it as domestic violence. I believe if the league wants Elliott to accept a suspension, it will have to concede that there is not enough evidence to prove domestic violence and reclassify it as conduct detrimental to the league.

If the league removes the DV stigma and changes it to the more generic reason, then Elliott might can agree to that without losing face. Of course, the league has made it clear that DV is involved, it's likely made it impossible for Elliott to accept any punishment without it coming off as him admitting to DV.

 

[CATCH17]

I agree that the NFL cannot reduce the suspension as long as they classify it as domestic violence. I believe if the league wants Elliott to accept a suspension, it will have to concede that there is not enough evidence to prove domestic violence and reclassify it as conduct detrimental to the league.

If the league removes the DV stigma and changes it to the more generic reason, then Elliott might can agree to that without losing face. Of course, the league has made it clear that DV is involved, it's likely made it impossible for Elliott to accept any punishment without it coming off as him admitting to DV.

Did they classify it as DV?

 

[jordan4vols]

You should post the first take version to see the difference in tone on this similar subject. I was kinda shocked about first games version but it was entertaining

From the small clip I saw they all said he was guilty and this is why victims don't come forward because of the shaming that took place

 

[Philmonroe]

From the small clip I saw they all said he was guilty and this is why victims don't come forward because of the shaming that took place

Watch the whole clip not a small clip and then get back to me. Also how can someone be a victim when there hasn't been any charges? Alleged victim at best and it can't be shame from things in the NFL actual report. How stupid does that sound?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

From the small clip I saw they all said he was guilty and this is why victims don't come forward because of the shaming that took place

They said that's not what happened here because they aren't attacking her personally only her statements. Everything that has been leaked has been the truth.

 

[Jstopper]

Watch the whole clip not a small clip and then get back to me. Also how can someone be a victim when there hasn't been any charges? Alleged victim at best and it can't be shame from things in the NFL actual report. How stupid does that sound?

First take they were completely biased about Zeke. They all think he is guilty and Molly was raking him over the coals. It was ridiculous

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

First take they were completely biased about Zeke. They all think he is guilty and Molly was raking him over the coals. It was ridiculous

I won't even turn ESPN on anymore.

 

[pugilist]

I agree that the NFL cannot reduce the suspension as long as they classify it as domestic violence. I believe if the league wants Elliott to accept a suspension, it will have to concede that there is not enough evidence to prove domestic violence and reclassify it as conduct detrimental to the league.

If the league removes the DV stigma and changes it to the more generic reason, then Elliott might can agree to that without losing face. Of course, the league has made it clear that DV is involved, it's likely made it impossible for Elliott to accept any punishment without it coming off as him admitting to DV.

which does not merit even close to 6 games

 

[Philmonroe]

First take they were completely biased about Zeke. They all think he is guilty and Molly was raking him over the coals. It was ridiculous

Yeah that's what had me. The tone she had. I dont care if people think he isn't innocent but how she was acting she was acting like she had definitive proof he did something. That's what had me laughing. If he is found innocent I wonder would she be as hype saying she was wrong. We all know the answer to that.

 

[adbutcher]

Worth your watch. NFL getting raked over the coals for this.

My favorite sports talk show. Shannon been killing it since the beginning.

 

[gimmesix]

which does not merit even close to 6 games

Not sure what you mean. If it's classified as DV, it's a six-game suspension no matter the degree of the offense. So, that's what it would merit. If it's no classified as DV, then it wouldn't.

This was the situation with Josh Brown. The league suspended him one game for violating the personal conduct policy. If they had classified it as a DV violation, then it would have automatically been six games.

 

[pugilist]

Not sure what you mean. If it's classified as DV, it's a six-game suspension no matter the degree of the offense. So, that's what it would merit. If it's no classified as DV, then it wouldn't.

This was the situation with Josh Brown. The league suspended him one game for violating the personal conduct policy. If they had classified it as a DV violation, then it would have automatically been six games.

sorry, yeah i meant if they want to re-classify it as conduct detrimental to the league then that does not warrant 6 games

 

[Sydla]

Did they classify it as DV?

Yes. In the letter to Elliott, under findings, they state that the policy is clear on how to punish this - 6 games. The only policy that stipulates a 6 game mandatory suspension is the DV policy.

 

[gimmesix]

sorry, yeah i meant if they want to re-classify it as conduct detrimental to the league then that does not warrant 6 games

Yes, if they change the classification, I would expect some kind of reduction. I wouldn't expect Elliott's legal team to agree to more than two games with the DV offense dropped. But as I said, I'm not sure Elliott should take that because now that league has found him guilty of DV, there's no way the damage can be completely undone other than exoneration.

 

[jordan4vols]

Watch the whole clip not a small clip and then get back to me. Also how can someone be a victim when there hasn't been any charges? Alleged victim at best and it can't be shame from things in the NFL actual report. How stupid does that sound?

Just watched. Stephen A did clarify that the NFLPA got their stuff from the NFL 160 page document so the NFL can's accuse them of that and its their job to defend the player but they all dismissed Elliott as guilty and that he is innocent only in the eyes of the law but overwhelming evidence that he is guilty.

Look I have a wife and a daughter. If he did do it, I don't care if he plays another down in the NFL, I just don't think with signed Affidavits of essentially witness tampering, bouncers telling police there was a fight with another girl and punches thrown before police called etc that you can certifiably say that he did it. Only 2 people in this world know if he did. One says yes and the other says no and they are both seriously flawed in their credibility.