Undisputed talks Dak's NFL Ranking

[starfan1]

It IS useless. But it's a common thing the Dak fans use to prop him up. Take that away and what else would they have? Literally no one thinks he can lead a team to a super bowl like Mahomes so they use the meaningless rankings.

no less useless than your side's stance about playoff wins. Mahomes while a much better QB than the last 2 weve had dont do it on his own either.

 

[acr731]

no less useless than your side's stance about playoff wins. Mahomes while a much better QB than the last 2 weve had dont do it on his own either.

Competitors want to win. Apparently Dak fans care more about stat padding than winning big games.

Speaking of Mahomes, do you believe Dak would have a super bowl if he played for KC? I don't. Dak chokes when the pressure is on, Mahomes' doesn't.

 

[JayFord]

Acho is someone I cannot stand to listen to. He has clearly been trying to build a career out of Cowboys bashing, aka Stephen A. Smith. Every time he opens his mouth, I wish somebody would punch him in the face. At least SAS is entertaining, and embraces being a villain. Acho is just a smiling clown.

Acho goes back and forth

on espn he was anti dallas....on speak he was neutral twoards dallas and now hes anti dallas again

 

[starfan1]

Competitors want to win. Apparently Dak fans care more about stat padding than winning big games.

Speaking of Mahomes, do you believe Dak would have a super bowl if he played for KC? I don't. Dak chokes when the pressure is on, Mahomes' doesn't.

one dont know. Mahomes has had the benefit of the best TE in the game and the best coach,Best WR for much of it. in the game since hes been in league. We have seen when Dak is protected he plays well. so I think its entirely possible that dak could have 1. that doesnt mean I think hes as good as Mahomes I dont. But i think Reid is that much better than anything weve had. He brought McNabb to the NFCCG what 4 years in a row. Hes coached in what 10 conference championships
The better question is how many Mahomes would have with dallas staff and front office. Competitors want to win? you kidding me? sure we all would like to get to the SB every year as a fan of our favorite team but how much sweat you got invested? Nada, Nix not dang bit unless you sweat running to the beer cooler. so you can miss me with the competitor garbage. If i was in that locker room it be a different story but my tail is on the couch just like you.

I am not a SB or bust fan I enjoy the ride and if we get there fine if not theres next year it isnt that serious. Been that way since before Dak

 

[Momanpr100]

Acho will do anything for fame. Dangerous guy

And Keyshawn called him out on it too lol.

 

[Mannix]

I think the "Not the QB's fault" thingy evens itself out. There was one year....can't remember which one....where Dak could/should have had 25 interceptions had the other team not dropped easy picks.

 

[triplets_93]

Dak throws some beautiful long bombs.

What I want to see more of this year, are good quick throws 7-10 yards past the line of scrimmage, hopefully to a guy that's at least running sideways, but not having to come back to the ball.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

how can you not have one for offensive line can't block you know when his arm gets hit on his follow through or his back of his jersey gets grabbed because of the pass rush win rate was pretty poor last year that's gotta be a problem too???!

that is why real fans see the big picture and we know about six or seven of those interceptions were not his not alone anyway yes, he threw the ball but there were many reasons it got picked off and most of them were not bad decisions or he should have not thrown the ball.

it gets tiresome that that's all they focus on but if I bring up all the other interceptions from my other quarterbacks in the past they start bringing up stuff like Era, oh it's different, it's not the same, and blah blah blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​

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or we talk about Peyton Manning had twice as many interceptions in the first 97 games also have the same playoff record it's not the same blah blah blah and we talk about Matthew stafford's 20 interceptions in his Super Bowl Rams win he had two in that game alone and you know what the difference is,​

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the team helped him win the game the team helped eight men and Roger and Brett farve and Peyton Manning win those games they did not do it alone..​

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You give Prescott a better run game and a better offensive line in the Rams 2018 game in both 49ers games and we win those games but playing one-dimensional ball with a less than physical offensive line and no run game yeah that's what happens you lose the game by one score..​

Those are fair points. Maybe there could be one more category such as "interceptions-LCF" (line collapse fault). These categories would probably be hard to do. Whenever they go through the game and collect stats, they would need to categorize all the picks. It would not be easy, but if they could do it, maybe some fans would have a more realistic understanding of their quarterbacks. And your point that it's always a team win or loss. The quarterback should never get all of the credit or all of the blame. I'm not letting Dak off the hook for the mistakes he has made. He took off running two seasons ago in the playoff game against the 49ers, taking all the remaining time and losing the game, when he needed to leave some seconds left. In last seasons game against Washington, he nearly threw a pick on a simple out pattern. It went straight to the Washington player, but we lucked out that he dropped it. Then, on the very next play, Dak made the same errant throw, but this time Washington got their pick 6. Those plays drove me nuts, and Dak is responsible for them. But you're right. It's always the team who is responsible for a game's outcome. The quarterback is jointly responsible for the end result. He's not solely responsible.
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I hope the team plays great, and goes far this season. I hope Dak plays the best football of his career. We'll soon see what happens. It would be really nice to advance to the Championship game.

 

[DandyDon52]

Some of their points make me wonder if the league should have some additional stat categories:
* interceptions-QF (quarterback's fault)
* interceptions-RF (receiver's fault)
* interceptions-BF (both at fault)

The nfl keeps archaic stats , I think partly to glorify, and partly for stupid fans.
this is why aikman started his own stats for awhile, not sure if he still does that.

your ideas above are good, but many other stats need to be revised also.
Sacks are another one, if it is 1 inch behind the line, that counts the same as a 15 yd sack.
The nfl and other sites, wont do it , not sure why.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

The nfl keeps archaic stats , I think partly to glorify, and partly for stupid fans.
this is why aikman started his own stats for awhile, not sure if he still does that.

your ideas above are good, but many other stats need to be revised also.
Sacks are another one, if it is 1 inch behind the line, that counts the same as a 15 yd sack.
The nfl and other sites, wont do it , not sure why.

Yeah, sack yards would be a good stat to keep. If a team has given up 5 sacks totaling 8 yards that's way different than 5 sacks totaling 40 yards.

 

[Qcard]

Skip Bayless, Keyshawn Johnson and Emmanuel Acho react to Dak Prescott being ranked No. 9 on the Top 10 NFL quarterback list. They then discuss whether Dak is capable of leading the Dallas Cowboys to a Super Bowl or not.



Some silly points made. Yet, some interesting points made by Keyshawn and Acho.

Ouch.....Keyshawn Johnson is eviscerating the Producers narrative.

Keyshawn Johnson: "If we gashing you on the run...you better NOT throw the Football! and I am a Receiver!!!"

 

[Captain-Crash]

Mahomes has the best coach in the NFL because of Mahomes.

 

[DCwarrior]

Wow, so now we’re making up new categories to deflect criticism? Offensive line collapse fault, OLCF. Sweet baby gherkins how about just throw less ints and quit sucking when the pressure is on.

 

[blueblood70]

Those are fair points. Maybe there could be one more category such as "interceptions-LCF" (line collapse fault). These categories would probably be hard to do. Whenever they go through the game and collect stats, they would need to categorize all the picks. It would not be easy, but if they could do it, maybe some fans would have a more realistic understanding of their quarterbacks. And your point that it's always a team win or loss. The quarterback should never get all of the credit or all of the blame. I'm not letting Dak off the hook for the mistakes he has made. He took off running two seasons ago in the playoff game against the 49ers, taking all the remaining time and losing the game, when he needed to leave some seconds left. In last seasons game against Washington, he nearly threw a pick on a simple out pattern. It went straight to the Washington player, but we lucked out that he dropped it. Then, on the very next play, Dak made the same errant throw, but this time Washington got their pick 6. Those plays drove me nuts, and Dak is responsible for them. But you're right. It's always the team who is responsible for a game's outcome. The quarterback is jointly responsible for the end result. He's not solely responsible.
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I hope the team plays great, and goes far this season. I hope Dak plays the best football of his career. We'll soon see what happens. It would be really nice to advance to the Championship game.

He literally broke his hand because of the offensive line getting pushed back into him it happens all the time I mean go back and look at the Jacksonville game or yes the defense collapsed the defense choked but they go Oh yeah but look at those interceptions did you see the one where he was about to let the ball go and the guy came from behind him and grabbed the back of his jersey on his shoulder the ball sailed everyone blamed Prescott oh and in the overtime I mean did that ball knock bounce off NO NO NOah hands?? Both those interceptions were not on Prescott you could just go to that game alone.. Then there were tip balls active line that turned into interceptions there literally was one where he was trying to follow through just like the one he broke his hand on and he got his arm hit right underneath the wrist and the ball got intercepted that is on the bottom 10 pass rush win rate offensive line we had last year that everyone keeps pointing the lack of sacks that is not what we're looking at we're looking at how the quarterback was rushed and how dirty the pocket was..

 

[starfan1]

Mahomes has the best coach in the NFL because of Mahomes.

So explain McNabb then! Was he as good as Mahomes?

And let’s not forget the chiefs were in the mix BEFORE There was Mahomes

I get differing opinion but you guys and it’s the QB stance is just unrealistic . It takes much more

 

[shabazz]

I would hate if my job was to just spit out hot takes

…….that’s what she said.

 

[Captain-Crash]

So explain McNabb then! Was he as good as Mahomes?

And let’s not forget the chiefs were in the mix BEFORE There was Mahomes

I get differing opinion but you guys and it’s the QB stance is just unrealistic . It takes much more

in the mix, so fat andy was great because of that. Mahomes made fat andy.

 

[starfan1]

in the mix, so fat andy was great because of that. Mahomes made fat andy.

What it must feel to be wrong so often I can’t imagine

Mahomes and Kelsey and hill put him over the top

Fat Andy as you put it was a great coach prior to Mahomes arrival

Why don’t you look and se how many championship games Andy went too prior to Mahomes

I believe any of would have taken Reid’s coaching resume in Dallas but remain dug in

 

[Captain-Crash]

What it must feel to be wrong so often I can’t imagine

Mahomes and Kelsey and hill put him over the top

Fat Andy as you put it was a great coach prior to Mahomes arrival

Why don’t you look and se how many championship games Andy went too prior to Mahomes

I believe any of would have taken Reid’s coaching resume in Dallas but remain dug in

how many Super Bowls did he win before Mahomes? I can't remember

"i really don't care about him dak "

 

[starfan1]

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it?

Mahomes is part of the equation not THE equation