Unless Jerry goes away, losses like yesterday will continue to happen

[snadler]

Sure Jerry doesnt play the game, BUT his years of unwillingness to truly go all in for a super bowl. This team had to make upgrades at the deadline and stood pat. His inability to step back and hire a good football coach that isn’t just a puppet. His overvaluing of current roster/players by paying under-performers Steele and Gallup to name a few. The one common thread of going on of 30 years of futility has been Jerry.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Sure Jerry doesnt play the game, BUT his years of unwillingness to truly go all in for a super bowl. This team had to make upgrades at the deadline and stood pat. His inability to step back and hire a good football coach that isn’t just a puppet. His overvaluing of current roster/players by paying under-performers Steele and Gallup to name a few. The one common thread of going on of 30 years of futility has been Jerry.

Get ready for more losses then, he isn’t going anywhere.

 

[snadler]

Get ready for more losses then, he isn’t going anywhere.

Exactly, and that’s my point.

 

[75boyz]

I'm an equal opportunity hater of the GM, HC and QB of this team.
I think they all suck at their jobs.

With that said,
I see no way in blaming Jerry for yesterday's loss.

At some point the hot potato blame ball needs to be shared to a couple of more position holders of this team as well.

Does he hire the HC and draft the QB?
Yes.

But should that absolve the HC and QB of not performing positively at their job when opportunity presents itself over and over?
No.

Lion's share of the blame to Jerry I can deal with.
Letting McCheese and SleepNumber off the hook scot free is where I have issues.

jmo

 

[foofighters]

I'm an equal opportunity hater of the GM, HC and QB of this team.
I think they all suck at their jobs.

With that said,
I see no way in blaming Jerry for yesterday's loss.

At some point the hot potato blame ball needs to be shared to a couple of more position holders of this team as well.

Does he hire the HC and draft the QB?
Yes.

But should that absolve the HC and QB of not performing positively at their job when opportunity presents itself over and over?
No.

Lion's share of the blame to Jerry I can deal with.
Letting McCheese and SleepNumber off the hook scot free is where I have issues.

jmo

Why not blame Jerry? We have YEARS of losses like this with Jerry in control of the team. While yesterday's game was good and I was glad they fought until the end, this is just one more game where we find ways to lose. This is our identity...along with being one and done in the playoffs when we make them. This is who we are and it's because of Jerry.

 

[JW82]

Sure Jerry doesnt play the game, BUT his years of unwillingness to truly go all in for a super bowl. This team had to make upgrades at the deadline and stood pat. His inability to step back and hire a good football coach that isn’t just a puppet. His overvaluing of current roster/players by paying under-performers Steele and Gallup to name a few. The one common thread of going on of 30 years of futility has been Jerry.

Yup

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Good luck with the shoulder rehab after reaching for this one.

Unless you think Jerry has pissed off the league so much that the opponents get calls, this is nonsense.

 

[75boyz]

Why not blame Jerry? We have YEARS of losses like this with Jerry in control of the team. While yesterday's game was good and I was glad they fought until the end, this is just one more game where we find ways to lose. This is our identity...along with being one and done in the playoffs when we make them. This is who we are and it's because of Jerry.

I personally believe the head coach and quarterback have a specific role in NFL team failure as well as the GM.
So those 2 position holders don't get a free hall pass in my book but that's just me.
Regardless if he hired them or drafted them.

They still gotta job to do too.
And they keep failing as well.

 

[FoxF]

Agreed, our problems our organizational and fans don’t want to think about this because it’s too depressing because there is no fix… The Jones family is here to stay.

 

[shabazz]

They’ve had two years to go “all in” with the NFC being historically weak.

Last season big splash was off the couch TY Hilton and .75 tackle a game Hankens.
This season landed “2 catches a game” Cooks and “Lost a step” Gilmore.

So when Jerry’s had 6 games to see that his over the hill free agents are barely contributing, he makes no further starter upgrades, like the Eagles, Lions, Niners and Seahawks did.

Remember Jerry’s quote when the season is over…” The way I would characterize this is I don't see anything heated up to a level that would cause something to happen,” Jones said. “I do like this roster.”

Stubborn, egotistical or senile, the result is still the same

 

[foofighters]

I personally believe the head coach and quarterback have a specific role in NFL team failure as well as the GM.
So those 2 position holders don't get a free hall pass in my book but that's just me.

I don't dispute that at all. However, we have a track record of the same results with different HC's and QB's. There is, however; one constant.

 

[john van brocklin]

Sure Jerry doesnt play the game, BUT his years of unwillingness to truly go all in for a super bowl. This team had to make upgrades at the deadline and stood pat. His inability to step back and hire a good football coach that isn’t just a puppet. His overvaluing of current roster/players by paying under-performers Steele and Gallup to name a few. The one common thread of going on of 30 years of futility has been Jerry.

A lot of seasoned long time fans on the board have been saying this for years.
We are dysfunctional at the top and its a hurdle this team will never overcome.
I don't know if it will be better with Stephen, but hopefully it will be.

 

[75boyz]

I don't dispute that at all. However, we have a track record of the same results with different HC's and QB's. There is, however; one constant.

Oh no doubt man.
Like I've said previously,
Lion's share of the blame?
Yes.

All of it?
No.

It truly is a Catch 22 to be the starting QB or HC of this team.
Because included in your regular job performance description is the little nugget that "you must be able to perform your job at optimum levels" regardless of front office culture, undermining or meddling.

It's why Jerry is who he is.
He had the '95 team that won in spite of Jerry's hand picked drinking buddy coach.

He keeps looking to achieve that level of roster talent which he never will again.
While also passing off yes men puppets to coach that talent.

If you feel McCarthy is some extraordinary coaching talent then that's a whole different discussion.

But Dak sure ain't no Aikman either.

jmo

 

[Adiba1977]

His son is lot worse. Not gonna get better.

 

[ICP]

28 years and counting

 

[Blast From The Past]

Get ready for more losses then, he isn’t going anywhere.

Oh contrary to what you said, one day and probably sooner rather than later Jerry Wayne Jones will permanently exit stage left.

 

[Bobhaze]

I don't dispute that at all. However, we have a track record of the same results with different HC's and QB's. There is, however; one constant.

Since our last divisional playoff win in Jan, 1996, we’ve had 6 different head coaches, 8 different OCs, 8 different DCs, 27 drafts, over a dozen starting QBs, and the same GM in charge of everything from jocks and socks to what kind of hot dogs are sold at the stayjum.

While Jerry and Giggles talk about the limitations of the salary cap and how much they like their roster, GMs like the eagles Howie Roseman, 49ers John Lynch, and chiefs GM Brett Veach say, “This roster needs more” and make moves to do just that. And not always big splashy moves. Sometimes a great trade is for depth.

And when some of our fans complain about how much Dak makes thinking that limits us, Jalen Hurts makes more than Dak. Yet somehow Roseman finds a way to make things happen.

 

[Mannix]

They’ve had two years to go “all in” with the NFC being historically weak.

Last season big splash was off the couch TY Hilton and .75 tackle a game Hankens.
This season landed “2 catches a game” Cooks and “Lost a step” Gilmore.

So when Jerry’s had 6 games to see that his over the hill free agents are barely contributing, he makes no further starter upgrades, like the Eagles, Lions, Niners and Seahawks did.

Remember Jerry’s quote when the season is over…” The way I would characterize this is I don't see anything heated up to a level that would cause something to happen,” Jones said. “I do like this roster.”

Stubborn, egotistical or senile, the result is still the same

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post of the morning

 

[links18]

Get ready for more losses then, he isn’t going anywhere.

Father time is still undefeated.

 

[75boyz]

Since our last divisional playoff win in Jan, 1996, we’ve had 6 different head coaches, 8 different OCs, 8 different DCs, 27 drafts, over a dozen starting QBs, and the same GM in charge of everything from jocks and socks to what kind of hot dogs are sold at the stayjum.

While Jerry and Giggles talk about the limitations of the salary cap and how much they like their roster, GMs like the eagles Howie Roseman, 49ers John Lynch, and chiefs GM Brett Veach say, “This roster needs more” and make moves to do just that. And not always big splashy moves. Sometimes a great trade is for depth.

And when some of our fans complain about how much Dak makes thinking that limits us, Jalen Hurts makes more than Dak. Yet somehow Roseman finds a way to make things happen.

I'll never disagree that this GM/owner bares the brunt/lion's share of the blame for team failure for going on 3 decades.

I just think the position holders at HC and QB1 have their own share of responsibility towards team failure as well.

It really boils down to personal opinion, but I think most or all of the below listed HC/QB tandems could have actually overcome Jerry in the performance of their jobs and still won trophies.

Mahomes/Reid
Goat/Hoodie
Wilson/Carroll
Big Ben/Tomlin
Brees/Payton

These are the type tandems we need just in order to overcome Jerry.

So we gotta keep waiting on finding the next Mahomes and insert whatever coach name that can both coach offense and not be a spineless yes man.

It's surely a tall order.

jmo