Unpopular Opinions on the Cowboys Roster

[NinePointOh]

This is the type of guy who wants to give Proctor one more year, than one more year, if it was up to you id bet you still want AL Johnson to pan out.

I guess if you can't justify your own hyperbolic opinion, you can always create a strawman to flog.

 

[ShiningStar]

I guess if you can't justify your own hyperbolic opinion, you can always create a strawman to flog.

my statement is simple, keep churning the roster and create competition, its simple and it works. If a guy cant do it, he gets a certain year per his position than we bring in a new guy.

Who here is hating on the Canty loss? Hwo many more years should we have giving him?

 

[jobberone]

QB: I love our QB, Tony Romo. I don't know just how good he can be because I don't care for our supporting cast as much as others. He's not the steady, strong leader of a more mature Warner or Brees, but he's still a pup and has time to grow"

everyone needs to stop with the Brees love fest....yes hes a bad ***..but he is no better than Romo (who is also a bad ***)...they are practically the same QB....lot of stats, TDs, wins AND INTS...cept Romo seems to be improving on his Ints..Brees does not.......Brees is more accurate and Romo is more versatile...but everyone acting like Brees is 2nd or 3rd best in the league and then wanna say Romo isnt top 10...its BS ......if you ask me (and i know u didnt) Romo and Brees are 4A and 4B in the league...

1) Peyton
2) Brady
3) Rivers
4) Romo-Brees

Not right now. Both Brees and his WRs are playing off one another. They are in a league of their own. Not saying the Saints can't be beaten. Just saying they are better than anyone else right now. Even Indy but not as much there as everyone else.

 

[dadymat]

Not right now. Both Brees and his WRs are playing off one another. They are in a league of their own. Not saying the Saints can't be beaten. Just saying they are better than anyone else right now. Even Indy but not as much there as everyone else.

wrong on both...........
over last 4 games

Romo---1125 yrds---8 tds---2 ints---3 fmbl--- 3-1

Brees---1159 yrds---6 tds---7 ints---5 fmbl--- 4-0

the Saints D and ST are keeping them from losing to the likes of Rams, Car and Atl......if Romos turnovers looked like Brees everyone would be running him out of town.....its incredible actually how blind some are to how mistake prone Brees is and has always been.....but bow if you must...hes not better than Romo and hes not playing better than Romo....

 

[jobberone]

wrong on both...........
over last 4 games

Romo---1125 yrds---8 tds---2 ints---3 fmbl--- 3-1

Brees---1159 yrds---6 tds---7 ints---5 fmbl--- 4-0

the Saints D and ST are keeping them from losing to the likes of Rams, Car and Atl......if Romos turnovers looked like Brees everyone would be running him out of town.....its incredible actually how blind some are to how mistake prone Brees is and has always been.....but bow if you must...hes not better than Romo and hes not playing better than Romo....

I'm not interested in the last four games which are Romo's best. I'm talking about the entire year. And I don't need stats to see who is playing better and more consistency not to mention who's winning their games and generally convincingly.

 

[jobberone]

Here's your quote I commented on: Originally Posted by ShiningStar
I think its time someone in the Cowboys organization says hey, its time to start investing in big Oline men and start buidling around both qb;s, and start finding out if McGee can be the next qb or keep drafting til one hits.

Id also start churning RB's and never having a star or franchise RB either. The life expentency has dropped considerably and its not worth dumping money into when you can get quality running in the later rounds.

But than again in my heart of hearts, Id just wish this team would go back to the 4-3 defense and stop this 3-4 crap.

Id also try and get our TE's more involved and if Bennett doesnt want to emerge, than try the Phillips kid, if he proves better, draft another TE next year later in teh rounds and dump Bennett, cant always wait for talent to surface, you have to push it or move on now a days.

QUOTE=ShiningStar;3090416]how many years do you want to give Carpenter to be solid? Proctor? I bet you hate we gave up on all the other OLine Parcells brought in. You want to give Holland some more time? How about McQuinstan? How long would you wait.

You willing to give a RB 5 years to get it right? How long? If Dallas is cooked beccause Free cant do it, want to give Free 15 more years to see if he can play back up?

Yes OLine men peak at 30, but you want to make sure they can play by than, not FIND OUT.[/QUOTE]

Well we have one of the biggest OLs in the NFL already. Big isn't a problem.

We don't need to build around anyone but Romo. Kitna will have to go on his experience as a pro QB. He's not getting first team reps. And McGee can learn from the sideline and in TC. He's only to get reps if both QBs go down.

I'm not opposed to drafting good value QBs to develop and trade. Romo should be here another 8-10 years.

Your philosophy about RBs is dead wrong. You always are looking for the exceptional RB who makes big plays. Right now Felix is the only one for that and he looks hurt right now. But we have an exceptional RB in Felix despite his decreased output since being injured. We just don't need to pay big money for them ala the MB contract. IMO.

Going back to the 4-3 is a foolish notion. We have the players for the 3-4. Why you'd want to go to a scheme that we don't have the personnel for is a mystery to me. We are married to the 3-4 for now.

Bennett is much more talented than Phillips. He's having growing pains but he's too talented to not do well. Phillips is a blocking TE and compliments the other two well.

Carpenter is a solid nickel MLB.

Free should do well IMO but I could be wrong. Proctor is a serviceable G/C which makes him valuable. He's doing fine. Three to four years is adequate time to evaluate him.

All the OL starters play at a high level already.

 

[dadymat]

I'm not interested[/B] in the last four games which are Romo's best. I'm talking about the entire year. And I don't need stats to see who is playing better and more consistency not to mention who's winning their games and generally convincingly.

what you should be interested in is watching Saints games instead of Brees highlights...NFL network makes it look real good when hes chunkin 40 yrd tds and firing up the team in his pre game huddle...but when hes throwing his bone head pics that he always does and getting pummeled and losing ball its not as pretty..and im not just talking about last 4 games..

 

[TwoDeep3]

I think that the Cowboys are absolutely trying to get the ball to Roy Williams, and the rest of the offense, most noticably Austin, suffers.

Now insert TO where RoyW's name is and welcome to last year.

Evidently this excuse is one size fits all.

 

[TNCowboy]

Now insert TO where RoyW's name is and welcome to last year.

Evidently this excuse is one size fits all.

If the shoe fits...

 

[The Curly One]

I agree with much of the OP except on the O-line. I think Flozell is useless and has been a detriment to the team. Famous for the "Flozell Hat Trick" One holding penalty, One False Start penalty and a few whiffed blocks. Of course the last time I said that Flozell had his first (and only game)game EVER as a proffesional player where he did not get a penalty? He was still able to whiff a few blocks though. And a stat they really do not keep but when Flozell does get penalized it usually voids a big play we just made. Not that there is a "Good time" to get penalty he always finds the worst possible time to get one. Makes me wonder just what team he plays for.

Nothing has changed, you can not go deep into the playoffs unless you can protect the quarterback. Our O-Line is not cutting it and Flozell is the worst offender. By the way did you see the Flozell whiffed block last week right before the half that allowed a ROOKIE to get his first ever sack?

I do not think the Cowboys can win much of anything until they rebuild the offensive line. Part of the problem with that is that it takes a while to rebuild. One good reciever can change the whole offense but it takes a TEAM of linemen to make a difference. Adding or removing one guy does not do it. Usually takes years to get the offensive line built, maybe its time we start?

 

[ShiningStar]

Here's your quote I commented on: Originally Posted by ShiningStar
I think its time someone in the Cowboys organization says hey, its time to start investing in big Oline men and start buidling around both qb;s, and start finding out if McGee can be the next qb or keep drafting til one hits.

Id also start churning RB's and never having a star or franchise RB either. The life expentency has dropped considerably and its not worth dumping money into when you can get quality running in the later rounds.

But than again in my heart of hearts, Id just wish this team would go back to the 4-3 defense and stop this 3-4 crap.

Id also try and get our TE's more involved and if Bennett doesnt want to emerge, than try the Phillips kid, if he proves better, draft another TE next year later in teh rounds and dump Bennett, cant always wait for talent to surface, you have to push it or move on now a days.

QUOTE=ShiningStar;3090416]how many years do you want to give Carpenter to be solid? Proctor? I bet you hate we gave up on all the other OLine Parcells brought in. You want to give Holland some more time? How about McQuinstan? How long would you wait.

You willing to give a RB 5 years to get it right? How long? If Dallas is cooked beccause Free cant do it, want to give Free 15 more years to see if he can play back up?

Yes OLine men peak at 30, but you want to make sure they can play by than, not FIND OUT.

Well we have one of the biggest OLs in the NFL already. Big isn't a problem.

We don't need to build around anyone but Romo. Kitna will have to go on his experience as a pro QB. He's not getting first team reps. And McGee can learn from the sideline and in TC. He's only to get reps if both QBs go down.

I'm not opposed to drafting good value QBs to develop and trade. Romo should be here another 8-10 years.

Your philosophy about RBs is dead wrong. You always are looking for the exceptional RB who makes big plays. Right now Felix is the only one for that and he looks hurt right now. But we have an exceptional RB in Felix despite his decreased output since being injured. We just don't need to pay big money for them ala the MB contract. IMO.

Going back to the 4-3 is a foolish notion. We have the players for the 3-4. Why you'd want to go to a scheme that we don't have the personnel for is a mystery to me. We are married to the 3-4 for now.

Bennett is much more talented than Phillips. He's having growing pains but he's too talented to not do well. Phillips is a blocking TE and compliments the other two well.

Carpenter is a solid nickel MLB.

Free should do well IMO but I could be wrong. Proctor is a serviceable G/C which makes him valuable. He's doing fine. Three to four years is adequate time to evaluate him.

All the OL starters play at a high level already.[/quote]


Thats a lot of ifs you are talking about. If Felix is hurt for an extended period of time next year, is he worth keeping? You talk of Bennet being to good to not play? How do we judge potiental? How long do you give said potential? who makes that call? If Phillips starts producing where Bennett isnt, you play phillips or are you against the NFL unsaid rule "you play whos hot"?

Sorry, you are playing with to many ifs and not worried about the solid contributor. So far I have not seen much from either Felix or Bennett enough to not say okay we wont churn the players in that position.