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Just do not see Jethro going with a RB in the first rd again.
 
gtb1943 said:
Just do not see Jethro going with a RB in the first rd again.
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What is Jethro about? Let make it easy for you. In that draft room Jeanty is the one player that everyone in the room would agree on.
 
I could easily see Jerry wanting Jeanty to the point of having to be restrained. On a trade back to around 20 I would be in favor myself but think he goes before that. I expect three solid months of Jeanty to the Cowboys predictions.
 
baltcowboy said:
What is Jethro about? Let make it easy for you. In that draft room Jeanty is the one player that everyone in the room would agree on.
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making a claim that has no possibility of evidential support is not that smart
 
I just don't understand why so many national media give us a rb, as if that solves a problem. And nobody even mentions the depth of the rb class. You would think jerry learned a lesson drafting zeke at #4, and then watching Barkley give the Giants next to nothing for 4 years. We need to use this 12 overall pick to draft a position thats harder to find on day 2 and 3.
 
gtb1943 said:
making a claim that has no possibility of evidential support is not that smart
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We can make a board bet when the time comes if you would like. They were going to draft the ACL runner from Texas if he made it to their second pick. What proof do you need.
 
I have no problem taking Jeanty if he's there.
It's highly unlikely Hampton falls to our 2nd round pick and it's very unlikely Kaleb Johnson falls to our 3rd round pick.
I don't want a repeat of the last two drafts where every damn RB goes off the board between our picks.
 
Jeanty is not going to be there. Forget everything you heard about the RB position being devalued.

Seven of the top ten leading rushers are on teams heading into the playoffs, including the top five seeds in the NFC.
 
plasticman said:
Jeanty is not going to be there. Forget everything you heard about the RB position being devalued.

Seven of the top ten leading rushers are on teams heading into the playoffs, including the top five seeds in the NFC.
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The position is devalued bc you can find good ones all over the draft and most teams have one. ...... not bc running the ball is no longer important. Only 4 of those 10 were taken in the first round.
 
plasticman said:
Jeanty is not going to be there. Forget everything you heard about the RB position being devalued.

Seven of the top ten leading rushers are on teams heading into the playoffs, including the top five seeds in the NFC.
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Is that due to being a run first team, or having the lead and being able to run out the clock with the run?

Eagles got their RB from FA, former 1st round RB that had some very good years and then some ok years due to lack of talent around him/injuries.
Lions had a two headed attack till injury, FA Montgomery and then a 1st on Gibbs.
Bucs have a 4th round RB
Rams have a 5th round RB
Bucs have a 3rd rounder + 4th rounder

I think Jeanty will be a 1st rounder. But the NFL has shown for years now the ability to find scheme fits later in the draft for productive rushing attacks.
And with the unfortunately with the short peaks for RB's, it's not a prudent draft pick to take high. Especially if you run them ragged like Dallas has done with Murray in 14 and Zeke from 16-20

We've seen guys like Bijan Robinson taking high. Pulled off a great year, but his team still found a way to choke out of the playoffs.
There's a chance that a team sees Jeanty as the next Gibbs/Robinson and takes him before us. Doesn't mean it was the right pick to make.
 
atlantacowboy said:
I just don't understand why so many national media give us a rb, as if that solves a problem. And nobody even mentions the depth of the rb class. You would think jerry learned a lesson drafting zeke at #4, and then watching Barkley give the Giants next to nothing for 4 years. We need to use this 12 overall pick to draft a position thats harder to find on day 2 and 3.
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The media wants to hype up star players. So regardless of who it is or what position it is, they always project top players to the first few teams that have a need at that position.
Dallas needs a RB, AJ is a great story/name/player and he's at a premium position and he's the consensus #1 RB coming out...
Boom, Cowboys get the media buzz to take him. And don't get me wrong, he'd be a great pick for Dallas. With our O-line I think he would fix the running game woes and give the offense another legit, major threat to pair with CDL.

I personally would love to have him and despite the "never draft RB in RD 1" crowd, there is strong evidence to back up the argument that it's super smart (next level thinking) to take the best RB in RD 1 every 4-5 years. Because you get that top player on a fairly cheap contract for the best 4-5 years of their very small shelf life career, then let him walk and draft the next one.

But having said that, if I was the GM, I wouldn't take AJ or any RB in rd 1 this year. Not with this very deep class and all our other important needs.
IMHO, a top DT/DE/OLB needs to be the pick at 12. I could see them taking another LT too, if the board falls a certain way as well.
 
J-man said:
The media wants to hype up star players. So regardless of who it is or what position it is, they always project top players to the first few teams that have a need at that position.
Dallas needs a RB, AJ is a great story/name/player and he's at a premium position and he's the consensus #1 RB coming out...
Boom, Cowboys get the media buzz to take him. And don't get me wrong, he'd be a great pick for Dallas. With our O-line I think he would fix the running game woes and give the offense another legit, major threat to pair with CDL.

I personally would love to have him and despite the "never draft RB in RD 1" crowd, there is strong evidence to back up the argument that it's super smart (next level thinking) to take the best RB in RD 1 every 4-5 years. Because you get that top player on a fairly cheap contract for the best 4-5 years of their very small shelf life career, then let him walk and draft the next one.

But having said that, if I was the GM, I wouldn't take AJ or any RB in rd 1 this year. Not with this very deep class and all our other important needs.
IMHO, a top DT/DE/OLB needs to be the pick at 12. I could see them taking another LT too, if the board falls a certain way as well.
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We didn't have a rb problem. We had a play calling problem. Rico Dowdle was grossly underutilized the first half of the season. He probably ends up with 1500 yards if we used him as more than a platoon rb for half a season.

I honestly don't think these media mock drafts are done by people who watch Cowboy games.

I agree that RB is down the list of needs and I'm baffled "experts". think otherwise.
 
baltcowboy said:
We can make a board bet when the time comes if you would like. They were going to draft the ACL runner from Texas if he made it to their second pick. What proof do you need.
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common sense would do it if you bothered to use it
 
atlantacowboy said:
The position is devalued bc you can find good ones all over the draft and most teams have one. ...... not bc running the ball is no longer important. Only 4 of those 10 were taken in the first round.
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John813 said:
Is that due to being a run first team, or having the lead and being able to run out the clock with the run?

Eagles got their RB from FA, former 1st round RB that had some very good years and then some ok years due to lack of talent around him/injuries.
Lions had a two headed attack till injury, FA Montgomery and then a 1st on Gibbs.
Bucs have a 4th round RB
Rams have a 5th round RB
Bucs have a 3rd rounder + 4th rounder

I think Jeanty will be a 1st rounder. But the NFL has shown for years now the ability to find scheme fits later in the draft for productive rushing attacks.
And with the unfortunately with the short peaks for RB's, it's not a prudent draft pick to take high. Especially if you run them ragged like Dallas has done with Murray in 14 and Zeke from 16-20

We've seen guys like Bijan Robinson taking high. Pulled off a great year, but his team still found a way to choke out of the playoffs.
There's a chance that a team sees Jeanty as the next Gibbs/Robinson and takes him before us. Doesn't mean it was the right pick to make.
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Five of the top six leading rushers this season were 1st round draft picks. The sixth was a high 2nd, 41st overall.

Of that six RB's, five of their teams were ranked #6 or higher in either yards or points or both. That is the result of offensive balance provided by these RB's. Quality matters. Many teams, I'm sure, realize this.

When you look at the Cowboys statistical splits, the Cowboys passed more in the first half then in the 2nd half. The fact that they passed more than they ran this season wasn't because they were behind. It was because they couldn't run in the first half of the season.

The inability to run the ball until late in the season was the single most controllable reason the Cowboys season was destroyed halfway through November. By the time the Cowboys running game started being productive, it was too late.

Even so, I never intended to imply that the Cowboys should draft Jeanty. My earlier post only predicted that Jeanty would be taken before the #12 pick and so any debate on selecting him was irrelevant.

I think it is a possibility that a 2nd RB will also be gone by then.

I mentioned in a different thread that I think the Cowboys should trade down unless they graded a D-lineman at that pick or higher.
 
plasticman said:
Five of the top six leading rushers this season were 1st round draft picks. The sixth was a high 2nd, 41st overall.

Of that six RB's, five of their teams were ranked #6 or higher in either yards or points or both. That is the result of offensive balance provided by these RB's. Quality matters. Many teams, I'm sure, realize this.

When you look at the Cowboys statistical splits, the Cowboys passed more in the first half then in the 2nd half. The fact that they passed more than they ran this season wasn't because they were behind. It was because they couldn't run in the first half of the season.

The inability to run the ball until late in the season was the single most controllable reason the Cowboys season was destroyed halfway through November. By the time the Cowboys running game started being productive, it was too late.

Even so, I never intended to imply that the Cowboys should draft Jeanty. My earlier post only predicted that Jeanty would be taken before the #12 pick and so any debate on selecting him was irrelevant.

I think it is a possibility that a 2nd RB will also be gone by then.

I mentioned in a different thread that I think the Cowboys should trade down unless they graded a D-lineman at that pick or higher.
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If you look at Dowdle's use, the coaching staff platooned him for half the season which was ridiculous in hindsight. It's like they didn't know what they had in dowdle and stubbornly stuck to their preseason plan. Had they used Dowdle in the first 8 games like they did on the final 9, Dowdle probably has 1600 yards rushing.

Over the past 10 years, it's been a rare rb that's been drafted in round 1 and even rarer for 5 out of the league's 6 leading rusher to be first round picks. That not the norm. It should also be noted that 3 of those 6 aren't running for the teams that drafted them anymore. Top tier free agent rbs go for 10-12M per year. So, why burn a first round rookie contract? A top 12 pick needs to the used on a premium position like CB, DE, or DT and lord knows we have need at all 3 of those position.
 
atlantacowboy said:
We didn't have a rb problem. We had a play calling problem. Rico Dowdle was grossly underutilized the first half of the season. He probably ends up with 1500 yards if we used him as more than a platoon rb for half a season.

I honestly don't think these media mock drafts are done by people who watch Cowboy games.

I agree that RB is down the list of needs and I'm baffled "experts". think otherwise.
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We see Rico very differently. I see him as slightly better than serviceable, at his very best. Adding a top quality RB is very much a need IMO.
 
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