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The CBS sports one is better despite still having bad rankings throughout.

Now use the drafttek one which is usually pretty far off.

http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2013.asp

Our picks: #18,#47.#80,#114,#151,#185

Love to see some try to do 7-10 FAs too. Draft ends at 254 players.



Mine:

1st-Tavon Austin
2nd-Phillip Thomas
3rd-Menelik Watson
4th-Bennie Logan
5th-Dallas Thomas
6th-J.C. Tretter

FAs-

Braxton Cave-C
Nick Casa-TE
Vernon Kearney-CB
Lawrence Okoye-DE
Brandon Kaufman-WR
Cooper Taylor-OLB
Sam Barrington-OLB
Troy Davis-OLB
D.C. Jefferson-TE
Don Jones-SS
Abry Jones-DE
Izaan Cross-DE
D.J. Harper-RB
 

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I would try to trade down if the OGs and DTs and Vacarro are gone. Tyler Eifert would be tempting, hopefully someone would want to trade up for either him or Austin.

Kiper ratings/analysis


1/18 Sylvester Williams 6-2½ 314 North Carolina (S. 5.07) R. 9.2
Analysis: Williams is a fascinating story because of the random
path he took to get to this point. He is a super-competitive hard worker who proved to be a real penetrator on the interior. He gets into the
backfield and wreaks havoc, splitting the double-team and making plays. Williams was very impressive at the Senior Bowl practices, seeming to
be unblockable during the week in Mobile. He is quick for his size, with a great power/strength quotient. Williams is a guy that offensive line
coaches mark and have figure out how to stop. He brings a pass rush component as well as freeing up other defensive tackles and linebackers
to make plays because of the attention he demands. He is deserving of Top 15-25 overall status in this draft. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.03, did
27 reps, and had a 26 ½” vertical jump.

2/47 Terron Armstead 6-4½ 305 Arkansas-Pine Bluff (S. 4.70) R. 8.5
Analysis: Armstead is the fastest offensive tackle I have graded in years. He has good feet and long arms, which he put to good use in pass protection.
He toyed with defensive ends at a lower level of competition. Armstead also did a nice job getting to the second level as a run blocker, showing
natural aggressiveness. He was impressive at the East/West Shrine Game practices, but he’s going to have to adjust to going toe-to-toe with
the best defensive linemen in the world when he gets to the NFL. Armstead is a little raw, but a standout developmental prospect who offensive
line coaches have taken to during the draft process. His freakish 4.71 Combine time and his domination at the small college level has elevated
him to a Day 2 pick. Armstead still needs some technique work and will have a big adjustment moving forward to the NFL from a lower level of
competition. However, he has a ton of potential and could turn out to be a really good bookend 2-3 down the road.You just can’t coach or teach
the awesome physical/athletic prowess he brings to the table. *Combine Note: Ran a 4.71, did 31 reps, and had a 34 ½” vertical jump.

3/80 Justin Pugh 6-4½ 307 Syracuse (S. 5.10) R. 9.0
Analysis: Pugh did an excellent job protecting the blind side of
Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib. He adjust easily to defensive ends’ secondary moves and deals equally well with quick and explosive pass rushers.
He has a lot of natural talent and Doug Marrone, who was head coach at Syracuse before moving on to the Buffalo Bills, has been very high on
Pugh since early in his career. The one negative is that he has short arms. Now, some left tackles in the NFL have succeeded despite not
having long arms, but most of the time that necessitates a transition to right tackle or inside to offensive guard or center. In Pugh’s case, I would
view him more as a guard or center prospect, but I would caution you not to write him off as a tackle prospect. Pugh is one heck of a football
player and I thought his play this season made him deserving of consideration for the first or second round. *Combine Note: Ran a 5.14, didn’t
lift, and had a 28 ½” vertical jump.

4/114 Kyle Long 6-6 313 Oregon (S. 4.96) R. 9.2
Analysis: Long is the son of NFL Hall of Fame DE Howie Long and the
brother of Rams’ DE Chris Long, so he has some exceptional bloodlines. Despite only being in the Pac-12 for one year,
he played pretty good football for the Ducks, showing the versatility to be an offensive guard or a right tackle at the pro
level. He needs to develop some consistency, though, as he’s still evolving as a late developing football player. The light is going on for Long
but he needs to improve his position technique. I expect that to come with more experience. He’s a tenacious football player with an impressive
punch move. He’s also a quality athletic talent with tremendous feet. This could open up an opportunity for Long to possibly make the grade as
a left tackle down the road, adding to his value entering the draft. - Long has a chance to be an outstanding player in 2-3 years. He has firstround
athletic talent; if he works on his game, gets coached up, and the off the field issues are a thing of the past, he’ll end up being a very
good late first round or early Day 2 pick. *Combine Note: Ran a 4.97, didn’t lift, and had a 28” vertical jump.

5/151 Duke Williams 5-11 203 Nevada (S. 4.50) R. 7.5
Analysis: Williams has good speed and very good range in the secondary. He can cover and matchup effectively in man
situations. He will also support the run with the toughness you look for. The key for Williams is that he needs to play a little more under control
at times. He gets a little sloppy in the open field and he doesn’t always break down well in space. This kid is talented and he has the skill set
you want. With his physical prowess and production, Williams is part of a deep safety crop in this draft. As a mid-round pick, he has a chance to
be a starter at the pro level with the right team. *Combine Note: Ran a 4.52, did 13 reps, and had a 37 ½” vertical jump.

6/185 Jawan Jamison 5-7½ 202 Rutgers (S. 4.60) R. 7.5
Analysis: Jamison got himself into great shape heading into the 2012 season and he had an impressive year. He is a compact, low-based
runner with phenomenal vision to find the right hole. Just a 3rd year sophomore, the light went on for him this year. He has superior balance and
makes people miss with good change of direction in the open field. With another year at Rutgers, I thought Jamison could maybe have been
the next Ray Rice and ended up on round two of the draft. He should be a nice bargain pick in the middle rounds because he has an awful lot
of ability. *Combine Note: Ran a 4.68, did 20 reps, and had a 29” vertical jump.
 

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#18 - Tavon Austin, West Virginia, WR (if I couldn't trade up or down)
#47 - Jamie Collins, Southern Miss, OLB
#80 - Justin Pugh, Syracuse, OG
#114 - J.J. Wilcox, Georgia Southern, FS
#151 - David Quessenberry, San Jose State, OC/RT
#185 - David Bass, Missouri Western, DE
 

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TheCount;5047701 said:
#18 - Tavon Austin, West Virginia, WR (if I couldn't trade up or down)
#47 - Jamie Collins, Southern Miss, OLB
#80 - Justin Pugh, Syracuse, OG
#114 - J.J. Wilcox, Georgia Southern, FS
#151 - David Quessenberry, San Jose State, OC/RT
#185 - David Bass, Missouri Western, DE

None of your pics will be there where u have them. Except Collins maybe. Pugh, Wilcox and quessenberry all will be 2nd rd to early 3 rd pics
 

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dantheman41;5047703 said:
None of your pics will be there where u have them. Except Collins maybe. Pugh, Wilcox and quessenberry all will be 2nd rd to early 3 rd pics
They are in this draft.
 

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18. Tavon Austin-this pick is a no brainer if he's there and that's what is left.
47. Menelik Watson- a huge reach according to the board but will probably go well before this pick.
80. DJ Swearinger- If he's on the board at 80, I'll eat a box of nails.
114. Kyle Long- Same as the last pick
151. Kenjon Barner- a nice change up guy for Murray
185. Gilbert Pena- need a big guy to play the 1 tech and depth.

UFA's:
CB Kayvon Webster - USF
WR Zach Rogers - Tennessee
DE Lawerence Okoye - Great Britian-Jerry's got to have a PR move.
FB Lonnie Pryor - Florida St
RB Ontario McCalebb - Auburn
QB Landry Jones - Oklahoma
TE Nick Kasa - Colorado
OC/OG Eric Herman - Ohio
OT Luke Marquardt - Azuza Pacific
S Don Jones - Arkansas St
LB Vince Williams - Florida St
WR Uzoma Nwachukwu - Texas A&M
WR Lanear Sampson - Baylor
DE Rufus Johnson - Tartelton St
DE Armonty Bryant - East Central (OK)
LB John Lotuleli - UNLV
DT Omar Hunter - Florida
RB Rex Burkhead - Nebraska
 

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Sylvester Williams tho I would not be mad at tavon Austin.
Deandre Hopkins.
Menalik Watson
Stepfan Taylor
Therald Simon
Bass
 

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18. DJ Fluker
47. DeAndre Hopkins
80. DJ Swearinger
114. Stepfan Taylor
151. Dallas Thomas
185. Khaled Holmds


I actually really like this.

These exercises really demonstrate the depth in rounds 2-4. There are so many players here that I want to pick.

And for me, the way I usually end up drafting is OL or DL first, then safety later. There's typically one available in rounds 3 or 4. The drop off from Reid and Vaccaro to Swearinger and Thomas is not as big as the drop off from the top OL to the second tier.

And I really like the RB and Wr depth in the draft.
 

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dantheman41;5047703 said:
None of your pics will be there where u have them. Except Collins maybe. Pugh, Wilcox and quessenberry all will be 2nd rd to early 3 rd pics

Try actually reading the first post. :laugh2:
 

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This is always an interesting exercise when people do it

The main issue with it is that when making your pick in round 1 you already know who will be available in later rounds so it makes that pick a lot easier

Teams 'reach' every year because they don't know who will be available

That uncertainty is a big reason why the draft turns out different than what anyone might predict

That, and teams just valuing different players differently even in the top 10 let alone round 2 onward

Interesting reading nevertheless
 

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visionary;5047787 said:
This is always an interesting exercise when people do it

The main issue with it is that when making your pick in round 1 you already know who will be available in later rounds so it makes that pick a lot easier

Teams 'reach' every year because they don't know who will be available

That uncertainty is a big reason why the draft turns out different than what anyone might predict

That, and teams just valuing different players differently even in the top 10 let alone round 2 onward

Interesting reading nevertheless

Agreed but it's the same for any mock draft, which is why the board drafts are usually more productive. The mocks are just for fun, something to pass the time during the offseason.

Some take them a little too seriously, but it's all in fun.
 

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visionary;5047787 said:
This is always an interesting exercise when people do it

The main issue with it is that when making your pick in round 1 you already know who will be available in later rounds so it makes that pick a lot easier

Teams 'reach' every year because they don't know who will be available

That uncertainty is a big reason why the draft turns out different than what anyone might predict

That, and teams just valuing different players differently even in the top 10 let alone round 2 onward

Interesting reading nevertheless

This is why I hate the post-draft "what I would have done" posts that come out. If there was a system of picking as the Cowboys pick that was indelibly put on your record, I'd respect that. As it is, you can hold off on your pet cat until round 6 instead of taking him in round 4 like you'd do and pretend you're a genius.
 

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TheCount;5047792 said:
Agreed but it's the same for any mock draft, which is why the board drafts are usually more productive. The mocks are just for fun, something to pass the time during the offseason.

Some take them a little too seriously, but it's all in fun.

Agree with you and fish
 

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speedkilz88;5047666 said:
I would try to trade down if the OGs and DTs and Vacarro are gone. Tyler Eifert would be tempting, hopefully someone would want to trade up for either him or Austin.

1/18 Sylvester Williams 6-2½ 314 North Carolina (S. 5.07) R. 9.2
2/47 Terron Armstead 6-4½ 305 Arkansas-Pine Bluff (S. 4.70) R. 8.5
3/80 Justin Pugh 6-4½ 307 Syracuse (S. 5.10) R. 9.0
4/114 Kyle Long 6-6 313 Oregon (S. 4.96) R. 9.2
5/151 Duke Williams 5-11 203 Nevada (S. 4.50) R. 7.5
6/185 Jawan Jamison 5-7½ 202 Rutgers (S. 4.60) R. 7.5
Good on 1, 2, 5 and 6. Questions about 3 and 4.

Pugh: I just don't see it. He has very quick feet, but minimal anchor strength and very short arms. He got blown up at the Senior Bowl, especially by Cornelius Washington. He was repeatedly driven straight back to the QB. IMO, Pugh = Kevin Kowalski who was a UDFA.

Kyle Long: The 4th is much better than the mocks that have him in the 2nd; however, he has a list of character related issues. He preferred baseball, flunked out of Florida State, got a DUI and is rumored to have gone to rehab for substance abuse issues. His arms are short for OT and he needs to gain anchor strength to play OG. If he is doubtful to contribute in 2013, then I would prefer one of the injured OL, at least one of which should fall to the 4th (Barrett Jones, Chris Faulk, Brennen Williams, Dallas Thomas)..
 

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xwalker;5047844 said:
Good on 1, 2, 5 and 6. Questions about 3 and 4.

Pugh: I just don't see it. He has very quick feet, but minimal anchor strength and very short arms. He got blown up at the Senior Bowl, especially by Cornelius Washington. He was repeatedly driven straight back to the QB. IMO, Pugh = Kevin Kowalski who was a UDFA.

Kyle Long: The 4th is much better than the mocks that have him in the 2nd; however, he has a list of character related issues. He preferred baseball, flunked out of Florida State, got a DUI and is rumored to have gone to rehab for substance abuse issues. His arms are short for OT and he needs to gain anchor strength to play OG. If he is doubtful to contribute in 2013, then I would prefer one of the injured OL, at least one of which should fall to the 4th (Barrett Jones, Chris Faulk, Brennen Williams, Dallas Thomas)..
I couldn't pass the value on Pugh and Long and it would allow the Cowboys to fully implement the ZBS. (I have the same concerns about Pugh's arms but it's the 3rd round) I think the Cowboys are eyeing both those guys for the 2nd round and they might be both gone. Kiper has Long in the late 1st.
 

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speedkilz88;5047899 said:
I couldn't pass the value on Pugh and Long and it would allow the Cowboys to fully implement the ZBS. (I have the same concerns about Pugh's arms but it's the 3rd round) I think the Cowboys are eyeing both those guys for the 2nd round and they might be both gone. Kiper has Long in the late 1st.

I'm trying to understand the high ranking for Pugh. It's not as if his athleticism is far superior to some other players.

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Add me to the "just don't get it" club on Pugh. He'll likely go on to prove me wrong but I've got exactly zero interest in him.
 

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fishspill;5047960 said:
Add me to the "just don't get it" club on Pugh. He'll likely go on to prove me wrong but I've got exactly zero interest in him.

I'm not all that interested in him either. But a weak, small, short-armed, failed tackle sounds like just the type of guard Dallas would take and call it a job well done on the oline. Pugh is the same RT that helped Ansah skyrocket thanks to his putrid performance in the senior bowl.
 
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