using your eyes and not the measurables

rkell87

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here are the guys everybody keeps talking about at slot with our 2-4 picks

shipley
[youtube]1te2nR2SBE8[/youtube]
mccluster
[youtube]Hb-chWh64Dc[/youtube]
gilyard
[youtube]qqHZjHonAqQ[/youtube]
ford
[youtube]lp4_19YsG2A[/youtube]
dickerson(i believe joe said he could play some slot)
[youtube]O9fZQpuoJ_Q[/youtube]


feel free to add who ever
 

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I like a lot of those guys you have up there. If you watch McCluster against Tennessee, he absolutely crushes them. I'm kinda torn over which offensive weapon I want in the first few rounds, but then, I'm also happy I like so many. It gives me a better chance of not being let down.
 

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You definitely picked some good ones. Ford looks like more than a track guy to me with the cuts and willingness to fight for yards and the goal line.

Of course I have been a huge McCluster fan for a couple of years now. (And notice Spikes looking worthless at 1:47 or so.)

And I still think Shipley looks slow. Look at 5:22... The guy looks like he's in quicksand. And that's against, who is that, Iowa State? Probably not world class speed on those DBs.

Here's one. I actually have been screaming for a small, quick guy forever now... Even louder since we lost Terry Glenn. But as a true wideout and RW replacement, this might be the guy.

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Look at this play at 0:46. Number 6 totally underestimated how fast he is. And at 225-230 lbs. The guy can really run. People talk about Dez Bryant being the biggest potential steal, but I think it could be this guy if the foot and option offense causes people to shy away.
 

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I've been a Thomas doubter (heh), but those clips show great hands and willingness/ability to go get the ball. And playing in PJ's offense, you know he can block.
 

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VACowboy;3322839 said:
I've been a Thomas doubter (heh), but those clips show great hands and willingness/ability to go get the ball. And playing in PJ's offense, you know he can block.

Why a doubter, VA? You probably know more about him than I do... I don't know anything about his character or any of that, and rarely saw him play live (despite my attempts to because I love the PJ offense). I just think he has a big, big upside and might be the perfect guy to groom for a year before we cut Roy.

But yeah, he reminds me of the old wishbone days when you really had to project these receivers because there simply wasn't much film of them running pro routes or catching passes. But, maybe that creates an opportunity.
 

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i will take ford in the 3rd and be very happy,spending a 2nd a dexter just is not worth it imo.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3322840 said:
Why a doubter, VA? You probably know more about him than I do... I don't know anything about his character or any of that, and rarely saw him play live (despite my attempts to because I love the PJ offense). I just think he has a big, big upside and might be the perfect guy to groom for a year before we cut Roy.

But yeah, he reminds me of the old wishbone days when you really had to project these receivers because there simply wasn't much film of them running pro routes or catching passes. But, maybe that creates an opportunity.

There are no character flaws or anything like that, except that he's had a few injury issues. But (highlights aside) he's always struck me as a bit stone-handed and not very quick. He never ran any routes in college, and I wonder how good he'll be at it.

People use the spread option as a selling point, saying "Thomas put up 1500 yards in an option offense! He's gotta be good!" And that may very well be true. But the way it has looked to me is that his numbers were a product of the offense, definitely not the other way around.

When GT threw the ball, it was using play action, into single-coverage, on a go route to Thomas because he was the only receiver on the field. Teams defended the Tech running attack. They never game-planned Thomas. In Paul Johnson's offense there are no obvious passing downs. The Bees run the ball a majority of the time on third and long. So it doesn't surprise me at all that their one receiver had 1500 yards on 46 catches in 2009.

Of course, I could be wrong. Thomas just reminds me a lot of David Boston. While he may be big and fast, I've never seen evidence that he can accelerate in and out of cuts, turn sharply and fluidly, or do any of the other route-running required of receivers in the pros. He didn't do it in college and he's missed the combine and GT's pro day with injuries, so we've not seen it, and everything considered, I'm just not ready to spend a high-round pick on the guy.

But, like I say, I could be wrong. I sincerely hope he runs a 4.47, blows scouts away in mid-April and gets selected in the top 10. :D
 

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Devin McCourtey
[youtube]qnzzalsfFp4[/youtube]

Sean Lee
[youtube]Q7cfc_OYcPk[/youtube]

Carlton Mitchell
[youtube]Qh64ppqI3lA[/youtube]

Brandon Spikes
[youtube]JeeQQxppbhM[/youtube]

John Skelton
[youtube]KMMDDz5WvKQ[/youtube]
 

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i like sean lee, he reminds me of me...except bigger stronger and better at sports apparently lol
 

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I think all of those guys will be good and I'd gladly take Gilyard or Ford in the 3rd or later if one slipped, Shipley in 4th. Also like Emmanuel Sanders late rounds.
Although my ideal is Damian Williams in rd 2.
 

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question, isnt mccourty a round 1 prospect? top of 2 at latest? can he fall to 59?
 

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Andre Roberts

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Antonio Brown

[youtube]U172KCi1mks[/youtube]

Taylor Price

[youtube]sIOwxj0oh6Q[/youtube]
 

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rkell87;3323020 said:
question, isnt mccourty a round 1 prospect? top of 2 at latest? can he fall to 59?

I don't see McCourty falling to 59 at all, which is why I'd rather pick him at 27 if nobody is available at 27. McCourty or Nate Allen (Allen's my pet cat).
 

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casmith07;3323211 said:
I don't see McCourty falling to 59 at all, which is why I'd rather pick him at 27 if nobody is available at 27. McCourty or Nate Allen (Allen's my pet cat).

I'm with you on Nate Allen. I think that if we get him, Jenkins will take him under his wing, and show him what it takes to be a nfl player. They both played together at USF. And Jenkins seems to know what it takes, off the field, to improve as a player (studying film, practicing). I wouldn't be upset if we drafted him in the first round if there is no trade down scenario. Sometimes you have to take a "reach" pick because you have no other option.
 

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casmith07;3323211 said:
I don't see McCourty falling to 59 at all, which is why I'd rather pick him at 27 if nobody is available at 27. McCourty or Nate Allen (Allen's my pet cat).
personally if both mccourty and wilson are there i like wilson if we go CB
 
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