Veteran scout analyzes 2013 DT crop

[dart]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21996923/veteran-scout-analyzes-2013-dt-crop


3. #34 SHELDON RICHARDSON, Missouri, DT (6024-294-4.96).

Body: Good frame. Good upper body, arms. Some belly. Good butt (wide), big thighs, good calves (muscular). ARM: 34 1/2; HAND: 10 1/2.
Defensive Tackle (three-technique); two-year starter. Alert, aggressive, productive player. Excellent strength (body and hands), power. Good tackler; around ball and involved. Good athletic ability, speed, quickness, movement, mobility, range. Good body control/balance, lateral movement/change direction. Adequate feet/hips.

RUN: Good initial quickness, high pad level, strength to control point of attack vs. single and double blocks. Good arm extension, hand placement, separation. Adequate block shed, good react off block, close down.
PASS: Explosive takeoff at times; power and finesse rush ability along with burst to QB. Good hand use, technique, shed. Can push center/guard to QB. Speed to chase QB to sideline. Adequate stunt quickness. High pad level only real negative
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First Round: Complete player who can dominate vs. run/pass.
GRADE: 2.0.

INJURY: Fall 2010-Wrist injury (redshirt season). January 2012-Shoulder surgery.St. Louis, MO (Gateway Tech High School/TE-DL). College of the Sequoias J.C. CA (2009; Injury Redshirt 2010). Missouri (2011). Signed with Missouri 2009 but did not qualify. November 15, 2012: Team rules violation (academic issue) and one game suspension (Syracuse).


6. #54 JESSE WILLIAMS, Alabama, DT (6030-323-4.96 @ 325#).
Body: Square, thick body. Big upper body, arms (muscular). Belly. Wide butt, big thighs, good calves. ARM: 32; HAND: 9 3/8.

Nose tackle (two-year starter); fullback at goal line. Active, aggressive player with excellent strength, power. Good tackler. Adequate athletic ability, speed, quickness, movement, mobility, range. Good body control/balance; adequate feet/hips, adequate lateral movement/change direction.
RUN: Dominate vs. run; controls point of attack vs. single and double blocks, strong lower body, feet run contact, tough to dislodge. Good hand placement, separation, shed.

PASS: Good power rush ability (can push center or guard to QB) along with quickness into gap and arm over move. Good initial quickness but first move always up. Strong hands, good hand lead. Best as two-gap player; plays with high pad level; comes out on most passing situations.

Second round: Excellent run player with power pass rush ability.

GRADE: 3.0.

INJURY: January 2011- Right knee surgery. December 1, 2011- Right knee injury (brace). September 1, 2012: Concussion (DNP vs. Western Kentucky).
Brisbane, Australia (Cavendish Road High School/Rugby-Basketball). Arizona Western J.C. (2009-10)/DL. Alabama(2011). Did not play football until age 15. Signed with Hawaii (2008) but did not qualify. Birthdate: November 2, 1990.

 

[xwalker]

6. #54 JESSE WILLIAMS, Alabama, DT (6030-323-4.96 @ 325#).

PASS: Good power rush ability (can push center or guard to QB) along with quickness into gap and arm over move. Good initial quickness but first move always up. Strong hands, good hand lead. Best as two-gap player; plays with high pad level; comes out on most passing situations.

Probably not a Kiffin type DLineman.

 

[BAT]

Probably not a Kiffin type DLineman.

1 technique not 3 technique, but Kiffin needs both.

 

[xwalker]

1 technique not 3 technique, but Kiffin needs both.

The Kiffin style defenses generally have the 1-tech trying to the split the Guard-Center double-team with quickness vs just holding his ground.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I think they kinda missed the scouting report on Jesse Williams. Yeah he can play the nose and 2 gap, but I also think he has more quickness than they are giving him credit for. In the Alabama system he didn't get to show it as much as the other DT's ahead of him.

 

[jobberone]

There is a pretty good youtube video of all the top DTs but I can't link it due to the language in the music.

 

[Marktui]

He is a strong at the point of attack and hard to move. Physical presence. Kiffen did say he wants to mirror the Seahawks D, Red Bryant was a massive guy in the middle of that d line. With that being said, I really don't know if he has enough pass rush ability to take him in the first round.

 

[xwalker]

He is a strong at the point of attack and hard to move. Physical presence. Kiffen did say he wants to mirror the Seahawks D, Red Bryant was a massive guy in the middle of that d line. With that being said, I really don't know if he has enough pass rush ability to take him in the first round.

Red Bryant is the Strong-Side DE. Mebane played the 1-tech.

 

[jterrell]

I agree with this scout that basically you want floyd, star or richardson.
They have 2.0 grades. Next up is 4.0 and a much lower value.

Again for me Richardson is my guy.
Positional fit, scheme fit and draft value at 18 would be perfect imho.

But if everyone hates these QBs and WRs it will be tough for him to make it 18.

I hope a team falls for Nassib and a big-bodied WR before 18.

 

[visionary]

I agree with this scout that basically you want floyd, star or richardson.
They have 2.0 grades. Next up is 4.0 and a much lower value.

Again for me Richardson is my guy.
Positional fit, scheme fit and draft value at 18 would be perfect imho.

But if everyone hates these QBs and WRs it will be tough for him to make it 18.

I hope a team falls for Nassib and a big-bodied WR before 18.

good points JT

i think that at least 2 QBs will be gone before 18

question is if richardson and one of the OGs is available at 18, who would you take

i would be fine with either but might actually prfer richardson given the huge drop off between him and the next DT and the availability of pretty good OG/OC options in rd 2 and 3

 

[dboyz]

Does anyone know if there are legit character concerns on Richardson and if so what they are.

 

[jterrell]

Does anyone know if there are legit character concerns on Richardson and if so what they are.

no. he was in trouble for academics(1 game suspension)... not sure how that is a character flaw really.

he has also posted and stated many cocky things but hardly been proven a thug or any kind of team malcontent.

 

[jobberone]

good points JT

i think that at least 2 QBs will be gone before 18

question is if richardson and one of the OGs is available at 18, who would you take

i would be fine with either but might actually prfer richardson given the huge drop off between him and the next DT and the availability of pretty good OG/OC options in rd 2 and 3

I tend to lean this way, too. However, most feel both Cooper and Warmack will be long time starters and likely Pro Bowlers. Not sure what wins out here. I see Richardson as having more bust potential although I like the guy myself.

 

[xwalker]

Does anyone know if there are legit character concerns on Richardson and if so what they are.

no. he was in trouble for academics(1 game suspension)... not sure how that is a character flaw really.

he has also posted and stated many cocky things but hardly been proven a thug or any kind of team malcontent.

One analyst said that he has a DeAngelo Hall personality.

 

[jterrell]

One analyst said that he has a DeAngelo Hall personality.

I guess the obvious response to that is ... AND?

DeAngelo Hall has started 127 games at CB in the NFL.

He is a cocky guy and takes his battles with WRs personally. He gets up all week when he is facing the best.

Not sure I understand the issue with that.
He has made about 40m in NFL contracts.

If Richardson can do that I think he'll be a fine selection at 18.

 

[Eskimo]

I think this is a very good crop of DTs and we would be making a big mistake if we didn't take one in the first two rounds with Hatcher 31 years old and on the last year of his deal, Ratliff is broken down and 31 years old and Brent may be going to jail and is unlikely to play next year. We do have Crawford and Lissemore but I don't view Lissemore as anything more than rotational depth and I still think Crawford may be best off at LDE once Spencer plays out his Franchise tag (assuming we can't do a long-term deal). Kiffen says to look at Seattle and they play a 340 pound 5-tech at LDE so Crawford makes some sense out there.

I still hope that Richardson is on the board when we draft. If he is not then I wouldn't mind a trade back for Sylvester or perhaps a guy like Short or Brandon Williams or the big guy from Georgia in the second.

Based on the way the draft is playing out I'm actually wondering about a trade back into the second and then taking Carradine for LDE and maybe moving Crawford to DT.

I do think there are a number of good DL candidates for us this year. The only OL who I support in the first round is Cooper but it looks like he is going to be long gone with mocks suggesting him in the top 10. I don't like Warmack or Fluker because I don't think they are athletic enough to play in space.

 

[speedkilz88]

Here's Kiper's top DTs. 9.0 are 1st rounders but 8.8s are borderline and can sneak in the bottom of the 1st. He has the Cowboys taking Sylvester Williams at 18.

1. Sharrif Floyd 6-2½ 297 Florida (S. 4.92) R. 9.4
2. Star Lotulelei 6-3¼ 315 Utah (S. 5.13) R. 9.3
3. Sheldon Richardson 6-2½ 294 Missouri (S. 4.95) R. 9.3
4. Sylvester Williams 6-2½ 314 North Carolina (S. 5.07) R. 9.2
5. John Jenkins 6-3½ 348 Georgia (S. 5.20) R. 9.0
6. Johnathan Hankins 6-3 320 Ohio St. (S. 5.29) R. 8.8
7. Kawann Short 6-3 310 Purdue (S. 5.15) R. 8.8

 

[Zordon]

Does anyone know if there are legit character concerns on Richardson and if so what they are.

he's cocky and talks a lot of smack. the type of players this organization used to have when we were winning.

 

[Eskimo]

Here's Kiper's top DTs. 9.0 are 1st rounders but 8.8s are borderline and can sneak in the bottom of the 1st. He has the Cowboys taking Sylvester Williams at 18.

1. Sharrif Floyd 6-2½ 297 Florida (S. 4.92) R. 9.4
2. Star Lotulelei 6-3¼ 315 Utah (S. 5.13) R. 9.3
3. Sheldon Richardson 6-2½ 294 Missouri (S. 4.95) R. 9.3
4. Sylvester Williams 6-2½ 314 North Carolina (S. 5.07) R. 9.2
5. John Jenkins 6-3½ 348 Georgia (S. 5.20) R. 9.0
6. Johnathan Hankins 6-3 320 Ohio St. (S. 5.29) R. 8.8
7. Kawann Short 6-3 310 Purdue (S. 5.15) R. 8.8

What do Kiper's grades mean. For example, what is the career arc expected for a 9.0, 8.5 and 8.0.

My own guess would be >9 means Pro Bowl quality and > 8 means above average starter >7 means average starter >6 means bench player and >5 means bench filler. But I'm not sure so was just curious.

The way I read those grades is that a guy like Short could be a good value pick in the mid second round based on the way the draft is playing out and Sylvester could be a good pick right at #18 (if that is a Pro Bowl projection at 9.2).

 

[NeonDeion21]

he's cocky and talks a lot of smack. the type of players this organization used to have when we were winning.

I think he was also suspended for one game. I will have to check to make sure. But I believable it was because of academics and not anything dealing with law enforcement.

BTW, if there is one position I don't mind my players being a little cocky it is on the defensive line. Those guys need to play mean and aggressive. Look at Warren Sapp, John Randle, and Charles Haley.