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I have not really noticed him much while watching the games to be honest. Does anyone who watches the all-22 game tape have any input on whether or not he is doing a good job leading Murray?

I don't know if it is a good or bad thing that I don't notice him. So far from what I have seen, I am a bit disappointed and was expecting to see a noticeable difference.
 
I haven't seen any Golden Tate's yet.:laugh2:

I think he has been ok and hopefully will get better as he and Murray get on the same page...it's early ....
That said, the vickers that use to play in Cleveland doesn't exist..
 
Vick hasn't been the problem. We could have the best fullback in the league and it wouldn't matter because the guys up front simply can't get the job done on a consistent week in week out basis.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4740303 said:
Fiametta was average at best. Vick is MUCH better.

:lmao2:

Guy who gives you absolutely nothing is better than a blocker who was actually helping to clean up mistakes and spring RBs?

Okay.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4740290 said:
Vick hasn't been the problem. We could have the best fullback in the league and it wouldn't matter because the guys up front simply can't get the job done on a consistent week in week out basis.

There's the answer.

It's like putting whip cream on top of a pile of crap. It's still crap.
 
Numbers921;4740304 said:
:lmao2:

Guy who gives you absolutely nothing is better than a blocker who was actually helping to clean up mistakes and spring RBs?

Okay.

Saying Vick gives us nothing is about the most ridiculous statement I've heard on the Zone and that's saying a lot. Fiametta did a decent job in the first half of last season, but he was well below average in the second half of the season.
 
Vickers has done absolutely nothing since he got here. This is not really debatable.
 
Numbers921;4740313 said:
Vickers has done absolutely nothing since he got here. This is not really debatable.

How do you know? On any given run plays there are 7-8 guys blocking up front. It only takes one of them to miss his block and the play gets blown up. Vickers might be doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.
 
Not much you can do when Murray is getting hit in the backfield by 2+ people.
 
Numbers921;4740313 said:
Vickers has done absolutely nothing since he got here. This is not really debatable.

Actually it is. It's called watching the games which I have, but you obviously haven't. Vick is doing his job, but as I mentioned earlier the big guys up front aren't which means there aren't very many running lanes for DeMarco Murray.
 
I don't know if Vickers is the kind of difference-maker that Fiammetta was.
 
Red Dragon;4740338 said:
I don't know if Vickers is the kind of difference-maker that Fiammetta was.

Fullbacks are rarely difference makers these days.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4740311 said:
Saying Vick gives us nothing is about the most ridiculous statement I've heard on the Zone and that's saying a lot. Fiametta did a decent job in the first half of last season, but he was well below average in the second half of the season.

Vick plays for the Eagles.
 

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