Victor Butler... Come on down!!!!

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Ware seems to be out for a couple of weeks and now Victor Butler gets his chance....something alot of people here have been clamoring for since he got two sacks earlier in the season.

I noticed on his first play after Ware went down, he hit Rivers as soon as he let go of the ball.

Ware hasn't been the same this season and he really hasn't been the past two weeks. Pretty much non-existent agains the Giants and then yesterday he was getting blocked with ease. I was watching him because he's one of my favorite players on the team and I just love the Sack statistic.

I don't know if it is his leg injury, wrist, or just what it is....but he doesn't have that burst. Hopefully, when he comes back in a couple of weeks, his leg and wrist will be just a little bit better allowing him to do more.

Now, back to Victor.....I'm really looking forward to see what he brings....the guy is just a natural pass-rusher.

Here's a little bit of what was said about him during the draft:

Pick Analysis: Butler had a great workout at his pro day and jumped on the radar after starting just one year in college. The Cowboys need to fix their special teams and Butler, combined with the Cowboys' earlier pick of Jason Williams, will help. Butler is a standout on the kicking units. He has similar skills to the Broncos' Elvis Dumervil, and he shined in Oregon State's upset victory over USC this past year.

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An undersized pass-rush specialist with the Beavers, Butler must make the transition to outside linebacker in the NFL. A standout pass rusher who broke out to register 10.5 sacks as a junior despite only starting one game, Butler was first-team All-Pac-10 and tied the single-season sack record at OSU with 12 as a senior and leaves second in school history with 25.5 career sacks. It was his final two games with the Beavers that really have scouts intrigued. Butler earned Sun Bowl MVP after racking up 11 tackles, including five tackles for loss, four sacks and a forced fumble against Pittsburgh and showed surprising fluidity when operating in coverage while at the East-West Shrine Game.


High School
Three-year letterman as receiver, safety, defensive end and kick returner ... Played defensive end only as a senior due to team needs ... Two-time all-league and all-county as a senior.


Similar skill to Elvis Dumervil? I'll take that.

In his VERY limited playing time this season, he already has 3 sacks.

Now, what I think may happen is that the coaching staff will realize that this is a guy that DOES have it and I would LOVE to see both Butler and Ware on the field at the same time.

It'll be interesting to see what the coaching staff does with him should he really tear it up in the next two weeks.
 

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He was stopping the run on his side right away as well. This guy is pretty good...
 

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I said he was going to be a player from Week 1 in the preseason. V-Butt is like a little Ware in the making.
 

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The Quest for Six;3144925 said:
I believe Steve Octavien is Ware's backup, and butler is third on the depth chart

Butler came in for Ware when he went down and immediately hit Rivers.
 

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ive screaming for this guy to get more playing time all year

to bad it had to come like this.

hopefully hes productive and this staff begans to trust him in games from here on out.

you can never have enough pas rushers. part of what made the 07 giants so effective is they had 3 guys in tuck, strahan and osi who could all come in and pressure the passer. they rotated those guys well.
 

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Wade was asked about him in the PC today (a surprisingly non-drama PC for the situation we're in) and he basically said that while Butler has done well in some situations late in the game, there also have been quite a few times where he didn't do very well.

He also was asked about saying earlier in the year that he wanted one of these guys to be a situational rusher, and he basically admitted that was going to be Brandon Williams.

Wade just doesn't seem to be that high on Butler. He did mention that he's not very big, for one thing.
 

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Butler saved the game for us in Philadelphia, and he also put the Carolina Panthers away.

The most telling thing will be if we get a new coach next year and Butler blows up, we will then know Wade knew nothing.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3144981 said:
Wade was asked about him in the PC today (a surprisingly non-drama PC for the situation we're in) and he basically said that while Butler has done well in some situations late in the game, there also have been quite a few times where he didn't do very well.

He also was asked about saying earlier in the year that he wanted one of these guys to be a situational rusher, and he basically admitted that was going to be Brandon Williams.

Wade just doesn't seem to be that high on Butler. He did mention that he's not very big, for one thing.

If that is the case....argh! He has no tackles and no sacks....no statistics whatsoever. As opposed to a guy with VERY limited time with 16 tackles 3 sacks and a forced fumble.

What coaching that is if that is the case.....
 

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Wait... Who has no tackles and sacks? Williams? He blew out his knee in preseason.

And Wade never said he had anything against Butler... I was just giving my read that he wasn't that high on him. He might like him well enough, it's just that he loved him some Brandon Williams. :)
 

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Chocolate Lab;3145038 said:
Wait... Who has no tackles and sacks? Williams? He blew out his knee in preseason.

Yes, according the NFL.com.

If he blew out his knee, then why the heck would Wade want to throw him out there now?

I didn't hear the PC.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3145038 said:
Wait... Who has no tackles and sacks? Williams? He blew out his knee in preseason.

And Wade never said he had anything against Butler... I was just giving my read that he wasn't that high on him. He might like him well enough, it's just that he loved him some Brandon Williams. :)

OK, gotcha...re-read your post.
 

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I think Butler's lack of playing time up to this point is a direct result of Wade's lack of making personel decisions based on production. He will ride "his guys" to the end, just like Parcels. There is no reason Butler should not have been a third down pass rusher all season in place of Spencer.
 

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Jimz31;3144877 said:
Ware seems to be out for a couple of weeks .

Thanks for the info on Butler, but who said Ware is out two weeks? Last I heard he has a chance to play Saturday.
 

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Are there any vet pass rushers out there? And is Butler 100% now? What about Curtis Johnson? Cowboys need more QB pressure, the D has not looked as sharp in this dept the last 4 weeks.

Time to dust off the 46 again.
 

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BAT;3145147 said:
Are there any vet pass rushers out there? And is Butler 100% now? What about Curtis Johnson? Cowboys need more QB pressure, the D has not looked as sharp in this dept the last 4 weeks.

Time to dust off the 46 again.

I think CuJo will probably be active again with Ware out. Butler and Octavien together would be just too small if Spencer were to get dinged.

Unlike some (because of a penalty on ST), I'm still high on him.

But yeah, I'd love to see Jason Williams get a few snaps up on the line and blitzing like he did in preseason.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3145154 said:
I think CuJo will probably be active again with Ware out. Butler and Octavien together would be just too small if Spencer were to get dinged.

Unlike some (because of a penalty on ST), I'm still high on him.

But yeah, I'd love to see Jason Williams get a few snaps up on the line and blitzing like he did in preseason.

I think Butler will show well, and getting the game experience will be a huge plus. CuJo needs to rush the passer only and stay away from special teams. J Williams just needs to get out there and play mistakes and all. The team will be better down the road, and the Cowboys need to find out what they have.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3145154 said:
I think CuJo will probably be active again with Ware out. Butler and Octavien together would be just too small if Spencer were to get dinged.

Unlike some (because of a penalty on ST), I'm still high on him.

But yeah, I'd love to see Jason Williams get a few snaps up on the line and blitzing like he did in preseason.

Same here. I don't care if he comes on at ILB or OLB, but he should be blitzing on 3rd and long situations. I also think Wade has got to get Carp off goal line and short yardage situations, it is not his forte. If Cowboys limit JWilliams' roles, he could contribute RIGHT NOW. I really want to see Jason Williams as the ILB (James' spot) when the Cowboys go to the 46 (IF they ever do).
 
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