VIDEO: Bobby Carpenter Highlights...

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Hostile said:
The first time he brings VY down is 41 seconds into the video. Notice how many steps VY takes and where he is in relation to where he was when he took off. Also notice that teammates immediately are there and Carpenter pounds on one.

At 51 seconds in is another angle of the same tackle.

At 1:09 is the 2nd clip where he brings down VY from behind. Notice where the tackle takes place in relation to the Center. It's almost to the sidelines. Notice him avoiding another player. Notice VY escaping one player before Carp runs him down from a good angle. Notice him standing over him and not pounding on teammates.

They are clearly not the same play therefore he does bring him down from behind twice.

Hos:

I can't believe you thought that I thought the play on the sidelines was the same one as in the backfield. :laugh2:

I was talking about the "back-to-back" plays where it is another angle. I edited my original post, which you had in your post where I clearly state the second play toward the sideline.

Funny how we're arguing over this and I'm thinking, "Why does Hos not see this is just a different angle" when all along you're thinking that I'm talking about the sideline rundown.

I guess we were both right :)
 

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From everything I've seen, he appears to be very good at disengaging blockers. I've seen a bunch of plays where a guy tries to block him, but Carpenter just tosses him aside to pursue the ball.

In one pre-draft analysis, it said, "Showed good improvement with his hands in 2005 in attempts to fend off blocks and pursue the play. ... Has strong hands to grab, pull and jerk blockers to the ground, but when he does not get them up quickly, blockers lock on to his pads and he struggles to disengage."

That and he seems to have that rare closing speed you'll only see in a few players in each draft from about 3-7 yards away from the ballcarrier. I saw that in Lawson, Huff, Wimbley, and Hawk as well.


Rich.........
 

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A.J. Hawk, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel — realized just what a rare flower of fellow man Tillman had been.

The Buckeye trio, the best linebacker corps in college football this year, dedicated their seasons to Tillman, and Monday afternoon — when Ohio State plays Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl at Sun Devil Stadium — they’ll pay him an even bigger tribute.

That’s when they’ll take all those ghosts and turn them into a living memorial — right down to the flying-hair ferocity.

“You can’t mention us in the same breath as Pat Tillman, but it’s just that we wanted to show respect for who he was and what he did,” said Hawk, the All-American from Centerville and this year’s Lombardi Award winner as the nation’s top defensive lineman and linebacker. “It’s an honor for the three of us to play our last college game on the field where he played. He deserves any kind of credit he can get, and I hope in a small way we can give him some.”

That’s the same idea Buckeyes head coach Jim Tressel had in the fall of 2004 when he added several pages on Tillman to the “Winners’ Manual” Tressel hands each player before the start of the season. Some call it the “OSU Bible” because — filled with stories and sayings about positive character traits — it’s sort of a blueprint for being a better man.

The Tillman tale — and how he refused to capitalize on his decision and shunned all interview requests and book and movie deals — struck a chord with the linebackers.

Hawk remembered Tillman from when he played against the Buckeyes in the 1997 Rose Bowl and then later when, at age 27, he followed his convictions and left football.

“I was always a big fan of his. Some people called him crazy for what he did, but I understood completely. I looked at him kind of like he had his priorities in line. He believed in what he did and he did what he felt was right. I respected that,” Hawk said.

Carpenter felt just as strongly.

“He wasn’t the best athlete, didn’t have the most skill, but he just played so hard and willed himself to be the best,” Carpenter said. “I appreciate what he did for Arizona State football and for our country, too.

“What he did is so unique in our society today where there’s so much cultural greed and instant gratification. ‘Why wouldn’t he take the money?’ — that’s what everyone thought. For someone to be so selfless proves to the world that there are more important things out there than just wealth and fame.”

Carpenter said he and Hawk mulled over ways to honor Tillman and decided to let their hair grow long: “We’d all had short hair growing up and in our first years of college, so we decided to change it up a bit. We got Schlegel in on the idea, too, but he’s married, so we had to convince his wife first.”

She finally agreed to the idea, though she did make her linebacker husband cut his hair a year ago in November for a wedding. “The guy did a terrible job,” Schlegel still grouses. “I wasn’t paying attention and I ended up with a mullet.”

Yet, now, even while his hair isn’t quite as long as the other two, he probably understands Tillman’s sacrifice the best. Before transferring to OSU in the spring of 2003, Schlegel played two seasons at the Air Force Academy, where he captained the team as a sophomore.

“For me, it’s a little different,” he said. “I have buddies — guys I played with — who are flying over there in Afghanistan and Iraq right now. I have the utmost respect for anybody who serves. And Tillman didn’t go easy either. He went to the Rangers; that’s an elite group.

“But that was him. When I was younger, I followed everything he did, how people always doubted him and how he proved them wrong. How he was a college walk-on, how he had this unbelievable weight program, how he went to the (NFL) Combine and performed out of his mind and then went out on the field and just hit people. If you play defense, how can you not love that?

“And so with us, it just became three teammates, three friends, who wanted to do something together that would be fun and pay respect at the same time, and it ended up bringing us even closer together.”

As their hair grew, how did the clean-cut, button-down Tressel react?

“He’d make jokes and tell us to get it cut and stuff, but he was never really hard on us,” Hawk laughed.

Another guy who appreciated what the trio was doing was the Buckeyes’ new athletic director, Gene Smith. He had been the AD here at Arizona State before he came to Columbus last March and was in Tempe when Tillman was killed by friendly fire.

“I can remember speaking to groups here and challenging anyone in the room: ‘How many of you would actually walk away from millions of dollars and go to war for your country?’” Smith said. “I’ve never seen a hand raised yet.

“Before I left, the staff and I had started some of these memorials, but I hadn’t seen it completed until now. The tunnel named after him, those plaques and the big display up in the Hall of Fame, it’s really awesome.

“We have to continually find ways to perpetuate Pat Tillman and what he was all about. We just don’t have enough heroes like that and we can’t let it go away. We have to continue to educate. And with our three guys and where they are going, they might help with that.”

And that’s why following Friday’s media day at the stadium, Arizona State officials invited the three Buckeye linebackers to a brief, private session to take in some of the Tillman memories.

Stadium manager Kirt Klingerman led them up the tunnel to the dressing room and the pair of murals — “The American Hero” one where they read the Emerson passage that began, “What I must do is all that concerns me ” and then the “Give ’Em Hell Devils” work with its artist renditions of Tillman as a long-locked ASU linebacker and a square-jawed, buzz-cut Ranger.

Klingerman took off a Tillman wrist band and gave it to Carpenter, saying: “I never had it off before, but I think it’ll mean just as much to you.”

As the players quietly walked back toward the now-deserted field, Carpenter — still not sure if the bone he broke in his right leg will allow him to play against the Irish — said he’ll certainly be on the sidelines as Hawk and Schlegel fling themselves wild-haired into the fray:

“To finish out our careers where Pat Tillman played — to just share something with a guy like that who meant so much to his football team and his country — it’s kind of surreal. It feels pretty special.”

And come Monday, it will be more so because for a few hours the three Bucks will be able to stir the ghosts and make them a living memorial
 

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Like how he lined up as a DE in some instances...especially when he held it down in the running game...shows he can play OLB and take on blockers.

Im excited
 

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Doomsday101 said:
A.J. Hawk, Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel — realized just what a rare flower of fellow man Tillman had been.

The Buckeye trio, the best linebacker corps in college football this year, dedicated their seasons to Tillman, and Monday afternoon — when Ohio State plays Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl at Sun Devil Stadium — they’ll pay him an even bigger tribute.

That’s when they’ll take all those ghosts and turn them into a living memorial — right down to the flying-hair ferocity.

“You can’t mention us in the same breath as Pat Tillman, but it’s just that we wanted to show respect for who he was and what he did,” said Hawk, the All-American from Centerville and this year’s Lombardi Award winner as the nation’s top defensive lineman and linebacker. “It’s an honor for the three of us to play our last college game on the field where he played. He deserves any kind of credit he can get, and I hope in a small way we can give him some.”

That’s the same idea Buckeyes head coach Jim Tressel had in the fall of 2004 when he added several pages on Tillman to the “Winners’ Manual” Tressel hands each player before the start of the season. Some call it the “OSU Bible” because — filled with stories and sayings about positive character traits — it’s sort of a blueprint for being a better man.

The Tillman tale — and how he refused to capitalize on his decision and shunned all interview requests and book and movie deals — struck a chord with the linebackers.

Hawk remembered Tillman from when he played against the Buckeyes in the 1997 Rose Bowl and then later when, at age 27, he followed his convictions and left football.

“I was always a big fan of his. Some people called him crazy for what he did, but I understood completely. I looked at him kind of like he had his priorities in line. He believed in what he did and he did what he felt was right. I respected that,” Hawk said.

Carpenter felt just as strongly.

“He wasn’t the best athlete, didn’t have the most skill, but he just played so hard and willed himself to be the best,” Carpenter said. “I appreciate what he did for Arizona State football and for our country, too.

“What he did is so unique in our society today where there’s so much cultural greed and instant gratification. ‘Why wouldn’t he take the money?’ — that’s what everyone thought. For someone to be so selfless proves to the world that there are more important things out there than just wealth and fame.”

Carpenter said he and Hawk mulled over ways to honor Tillman and decided to let their hair grow long: “We’d all had short hair growing up and in our first years of college, so we decided to change it up a bit. We got Schlegel in on the idea, too, but he’s married, so we had to convince his wife first.”

She finally agreed to the idea, though she did make her linebacker husband cut his hair a year ago in November for a wedding. “The guy did a terrible job,” Schlegel still grouses. “I wasn’t paying attention and I ended up with a mullet.”

Yet, now, even while his hair isn’t quite as long as the other two, he probably understands Tillman’s sacrifice the best. Before transferring to OSU in the spring of 2003, Schlegel played two seasons at the Air Force Academy, where he captained the team as a sophomore.

“For me, it’s a little different,” he said. “I have buddies — guys I played with — who are flying over there in Afghanistan and Iraq right now. I have the utmost respect for anybody who serves. And Tillman didn’t go easy either. He went to the Rangers; that’s an elite group.

“But that was him. When I was younger, I followed everything he did, how people always doubted him and how he proved them wrong. How he was a college walk-on, how he had this unbelievable weight program, how he went to the (NFL) Combine and performed out of his mind and then went out on the field and just hit people. If you play defense, how can you not love that?

“And so with us, it just became three teammates, three friends, who wanted to do something together that would be fun and pay respect at the same time, and it ended up bringing us even closer together.”

As their hair grew, how did the clean-cut, button-down Tressel react?

“He’d make jokes and tell us to get it cut and stuff, but he was never really hard on us,” Hawk laughed.

Another guy who appreciated what the trio was doing was the Buckeyes’ new athletic director, Gene Smith. He had been the AD here at Arizona State before he came to Columbus last March and was in Tempe when Tillman was killed by friendly fire.

“I can remember speaking to groups here and challenging anyone in the room: ‘How many of you would actually walk away from millions of dollars and go to war for your country?’” Smith said. “I’ve never seen a hand raised yet.

“Before I left, the staff and I had started some of these memorials, but I hadn’t seen it completed until now. The tunnel named after him, those plaques and the big display up in the Hall of Fame, it’s really awesome.

“We have to continually find ways to perpetuate Pat Tillman and what he was all about. We just don’t have enough heroes like that and we can’t let it go away. We have to continue to educate. And with our three guys and where they are going, they might help with that.”

And that’s why following Friday’s media day at the stadium, Arizona State officials invited the three Buckeye linebackers to a brief, private session to take in some of the Tillman memories.

Stadium manager Kirt Klingerman led them up the tunnel to the dressing room and the pair of murals — “The American Hero” one where they read the Emerson passage that began, “What I must do is all that concerns me ” and then the “Give ’Em Hell Devils” work with its artist renditions of Tillman as a long-locked ASU linebacker and a square-jawed, buzz-cut Ranger.

Klingerman took off a Tillman wrist band and gave it to Carpenter, saying: “I never had it off before, but I think it’ll mean just as much to you.”

As the players quietly walked back toward the now-deserted field, Carpenter — still not sure if the bone he broke in his right leg will allow him to play against the Irish — said he’ll certainly be on the sidelines as Hawk and Schlegel fling themselves wild-haired into the fray:

“To finish out our careers where Pat Tillman played — to just share something with a guy like that who meant so much to his football team and his country — it’s kind of surreal. It feels pretty special.”

And come Monday, it will be more so because for a few hours the three Bucks will be able to stir the ghosts and make them a living memorial


Very nice. Tillman was a man simply put. On and off the field and it's good to hear that Carpenter is in his mold.

The more that I read about this kid the less I am grieving over the loss of Dat.

:starspin
 

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Very nice. Tillman was a man simply put. On and off the field and it's good to hear that Carpenter is in his mold.

The more that I read about this kid the less I am grieving over the loss of Dat.

:starspin

I agree and it tells me that these guys are of high moral caracter. They are into tradtion and god knows Dallas is a franchise of tradition.
 

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VACowboy said:
How people perceive Carp as being slow is beyond me.

I think it's the perception that the big 10 conference is a smashmouth slow type of conference. Yet, Ohio is one of the hotbeds in america for football. Ohio has been able to share it's wealth of talent with other big 10 schools.
 

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How people perceive Carp as being slow is beyond me.


Yeah he's fast I did't get to see a lot of OSU games in NC but it looks like we got a keeper
 
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