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percyhoward;3426332 said:
Miles played an entire season last year without Romo having a broken hand. Just as Owens played an entire season in 2007 without Romo having a broken hand. Explain the huge difference in the interceptions per target.
Do you not recall interview after interview for the past two offseasons in which Romo spoke to his attempts to reduce his interceptions?

If the hand was an issue in 2008, then based on the pre-hand break games, everyone's INT numbers (not just Owens') should have been way up when Romo came back. Explain why they weren't.
Oh, this is rich. You want me to explain a time span of statistics that completely refute your central argument.

Yes, this is rich.

If a broken hand is the reason Owens' numbers read "1 INT per 16 targets" in 2008, explain why he had exactly the same numbers the season before Romo's hand was broken.
If you take Romo's INTs per target for 2007 and compare it to the first 6 games of 2008 and all of 2009, there is a stark difference.

Then you compare those first six games of 2008 and 2009 numbers to the last 7 games of 2008 and there is again a stark difference. You see a very clear pattern. You see 2007's performance. You see a vast improvement for the beginning of 2008, a huge dropoff after the injury, then again, an improvement in 2009 over 2008 pre-injury.

This should be very, very simple stuff to understand. Very simple. I cannot stress how simple this is. Children should be able to understand.

You have one argument. Your argument is that during the last 7 games of 2008, he had more INTs to TO than Austin in 2009. That's your entire argument. It goes nowhere. It's a dead argument. You can't compare 2007 to 2009. Almost everyone would agree that Romo was a different QB in 2009 in terms of turnovers. If you stuck TO of 2007 with Romo of 2009, you're not going to get the same result as the 2007 season. Again, this is very, very simple stuff to understand. You have to choose not to understand it, you really do.
 

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theogt;3426340 said:
Do you not recall interview after interview for the past two offseasons in which Romo spoke to his attempts to reduce his interceptions?
Thing is, theo, the only visible reduction in INT's happened with passes intended for his #1 WR, and passes to other players resulted in no reduction of interceptions at all.

And I still want to know how the broken hand affected only the passes to Owens.

If you take Romo's INTs per target for 2007 and compare it to the first 6 games of 2008 and all of 2009, there is a stark difference.
How stark is it when you remove Owens and Austin from the equation?
 

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2007
Romo to Owens:
141 targets, 9 INT
(1 pick for every 16 targets)

Romo to everyone else:
379 targets, 10 INT
(1 pick for every 38 targets)

Throws to Owens were more than twice as likely to result in an interception.


2009
Romo to Austin:
1 pick for every 62 targets

Romo to everyone else:
1 pick for every 61 targets

Throws to Austin were most decidedly not.

As for your other theory. When you exclude Owens' targets, and compare Romo's 2007 with his first six games of 2008 (pre-broken hand), you can see that Romo is very much the same quarterback:

2008 first six games
145 targets, 4 INT
(1 pick for every 36 targets)

Remember his throws to everyone else in 2007? 1 in 38. This is 1 in 36. The stark difference you think should be there just isn't there.

It isn't that what you're saying is hard to understand. It's poorly informed and incorrect, but it's quite easy to understand.
 

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percyhoward;3426405 said:
2007
Romo to Owens:
141 targets, 9 INT
(1 pick for every 16 targets)

Romo to everyone else:
379 targets, 10 INT
(1 pick for every 38 targets)

Throws to Owens were more than twice as likely to result in an interception.


2009
Romo to Austin:
1 pick for every 62 targets

Romo to everyone else:
1 pick for every 61 targets

Throws to Austin were most decidedly not.

As for your other theory. When you exclude Owens' targets, and compare Romo's 2007 with his first six games of 2008 (pre-broken hand), you can see that Romo is very much the same quarterback:

2008 first six games
145 targets, 4 INT
(1 pick for every 36 targets)

Remember his throws to everyone else in 2007? 1 in 38. This is 1 in 36. The stark difference you think should be there just isn't there.

It isn't that what you're saying is hard to understand. It's poorly informed and incorrect, but it's quite easy to understand.
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CowboyMcCoy;3425307 said:
No fair using logic.

1) Whether we got better or not, that does not mean he was not not the scapegoat for a injury plagued season.

2) Yeah we were better from the previous year, but we accomplished nothing more this year than we did with TO when he was here. You may say we won a playoff game, but we had a bye when TO was here. We lost in the same round. Actually we won more games with TO, and Lost more last year, yet and still we lost in the same round.

3) It doesnt matter, we have Dez, Roy, and Miles (im still not sure his is a number 1 but im happy about his emergence), and TO wasnt coming back this year regardless. Im a TO fan, and I wouldn have brought him back this year.
 
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