Video: Outstanding Analysis From Phil Simms On Dallas' Struggles

Nav22;3621799 said:

Nails what?

That the OL is below standards? That's obvious.

That Romo isn't the problem? Also obvious.

That the D's problem is man to man coverage? Errr, no. Dallas is getting beat in zone coverage medium to deep, because the safeties (Ball) aren't playing their responsibilities. It looks like man to man, because a corner is making the tackle, or following the WR into the endzone, but that's only due to the safety being so far out of position that the corner is actually closer to the play.
 
I think he's wrong about that last part.

We haven't been getting burned on man coverage. It's been a lot of deep zone and guys are blowing assignments.
 
so Phil Simms doesn't know the difference between man and zone? uh ok.
 
jimmy40;3621841 said:
so Phil Simms doesn't know the difference between man and zone? uh ok.
Did I say that?

No, the more likely thing is that Phil Simms has simply not observed all the necessary film and data to observe what happened on those big plays. It's easy to point out that they've been getting beat in man coverage when a corner is the only guy covering someone on a play, especially if the safety who blew his assignment was not there.

That's exactly what happened on the Britt plays, the Hester play, and the Olsen play. It's been acknowledged by everyone who would know that.
 
M'Kevon;3621801 said:
That the D's problem is man to man coverage? Errr, no. Dallas is getting beat in zone coverage medium to deep, because the safeties (Ball) aren't playing their responsibilities. .


I think that's a cop out for Jenkins and Scandrick. Jenkins got beat twice on two consecutive plays, so he had to commit a penalty in order to avoid a touchdown. That was man to man coverage. Scandrick has been getting beat consistantly throught the season in the slot for completions as it is, and that's man to man 90% of the time. So where the 2 TDs he allowed. The safeties haven't been spectacular, but to say that the Cowboys were getting beat on zone coverage is innacurate. Look at the plays they've gotten beat on:

Commanders game not one was memorable or made any impact.

Bears game:

Johnny Knox big yardage completion = man to man, blown coverage by Jenkins
Greg Olson = man to man, blown coverage by Brooking
Devin Hester = man to man, blown coverage by Allan Ball ( and yes, he was on man coverage in that play )

Houston game:

Kevin Walter's TD = man to man coverage by Jenkins ( garbage time )

Titans game:

Britt's both penalties by Jenkins = man to man coverage
Britt's and Washington touchdowns = man to man coverage by Scandrick
Britt's 50 yards completition = man to man coverage by Jenkins ( an interception went through his arms on an exact same play earlier in the game when he read the play correctly and anticipated the throw )

The Cowboys rarely play zone. They're not that good at it. They tried to incorporate a hybrid zone-man defense last year and the Giants tourched them in the Cowboys Stadium opening night because the defensive backfield was lost. They rarely used it again.

It's easy to use the bottom feeders on the team as escape goats because they're less talented than the top dawgs, but the reality is that neither Scandrick or Jenkins are having exceptional years. They've been solid, but not great. That's why Phillips said what he said about the safeties a couple of days ago. His message wasn't just to " prop up " the safeties, it was also a very subtle shot at the CBs.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/10/15/2550654/new-cowboys-defensive-backs-hold.html


Of course, when they keep extending drives because of their own stupid penalties, which irritates me to no end, the chances of blowing plays increases..
 
Primetime42;3621846 said:
No, the more likely thing is that Phil Simms has simply not observed all the necessary film and data to observe what happened on those big plays. .


Phil Simms is one of the top analysts on TV, not to mention a former NFL QB. He watches more film during the week, by his own admission, now that he's on TV than he ever did as a player. And yes, the TV announcers get the same, exact, access to game films as all the coaches do. All the game films are now loaded up into a website controlled by the NFL where only NFL personnel and TV announcing crews have access.

The films you see on NFL network, are all in that website..
 
Primetime42;3621846 said:
Did I say that?

No, the more likely thing is that Phil Simms has simply not observed all the necessary film and data to observe what happened on those big plays. It's easy to point out that they've been getting beat in man coverage when a corner is the only guy covering someone on a play, especially if the safety who blew his assignment was not there.

That's exactly what happened on the Britt plays, the Hester play, and the Olsen play. It's been acknowledged by everyone who would know that.
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Oh crud,

we are a undiciplined team that doesn't execute = loss.

yes, we have talent, so much so that it doesn't matter what scheme we play, if we just played hard/diciplined and executed.

it's called wade ball, for the 50th time.
 
noshame;3621869 said:
Oh crud,

we are a undiciplined team that doesn't execute = loss.

yes, we have talent, so much so that it doesn't matter what scheme we play, if we just played hard/diciplined and executed.

it's called wade ball, for the 50th time.

BINGO!!!!
Wade ball hasn't changed from his days in Denver through to Buffalo and now the infection has spread to these Cowboys.
 
Randy White;3621853 said:
Phil Simms is one of the top analysts on TV, not to mention a former NFL QB. He watches more film during the week, by his own admission, now that he's on TV than he ever did as a player. And yes, the TV announcers get the same, exact, access to game films as all the coaches do. All the game films are now loaded up into a website controlled by the NFL where only NFL personnel and TV announcing crews have access.

The films you see on NFL network, are all in that website..
So the coaches and players on this team are lying?

I know they're inept and frustratingly stupid at times, but that's an incredibly stupid thing to lie about, especially if all the "experts" would be able to see that it's not true.

I haven't seen them called on it yet.

BTW, you're not telling me anything I didn't already know, thanks.
 
The Cowboys rarely play zone. They're not that good at it.

The Cowboys can't play zone and are getting torched in man coverage. It's linebackers, safeties and corners alike, anybody charged with covering anyone. What are the common denominators? Who coaches DBs? Who coordinates the defense?
 
noshame;3621869 said:
Oh crud,

we are a undiciplined team that doesn't execute = loss.

yes, we have talent, so much so that it doesn't matter what scheme we play, if we just played hard/diciplined and executed. it's called wade ball, for the 50th time.

We'd be 4-0 if we did that.

But we can't keep focus around here. Too many distractions and Wade is terrible at keeping the guys focused.

And penalties? Well that was here before Wade ever got here and it has got worse.
 
CATCH17;3621928 said:
We'd be 4-0 if we did that.

But we can't keep focus around here. Too many distractions and Wade is terrible at keeping the guys focused.

And penalties? Well that was here before Wade ever got here and it has got worse.


And they need to BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!:laugh2:

Craig
 
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That the D's problem is man to man coverage? Errr, no. Dallas is getting beat in zone coverage medium to deep, because the safeties (Ball) aren't playing their responsibilities. It looks like man to man, because a corner is making the tackle, or following the WR into the endzone, but that's only due to the safety being so far out of position that the corner is actually closer to the play.

I agree, they even showed in on NFC Playbook this week. The big plays have ALL been because Alan Ball is completely 100% out of position every single time. I know Jenkins is taking a ton of heat but other then those 2 PI penalties those long plays are on Ball not getting back where he needs to be. Jenkins sees he is caught inside and tries to run down the defender but in 4 deep he has the outside 1/4 not the middle, that is Alan Ball. He is garbage at S and is killing the whole defense.

Britt's 50 yards completition = man to man coverage by Jenkins ( an interception went through his arms on an exact same play earlier in the game when he read the play correctly and anticipated the throw )

That is not true, it was 3 deep and Alan Ball actually watched the guy blowing by him and never reacted to it. He was too busy waiting for the underneath stuff and hesitated. They showed that exact play on NFC Playbook this week. You can even see Jenkins look inside and see Ball isnt dropping back, so Jenkins tried to get back there to make a play but it was too late.

Our pass rush vs the Titans was complete garbage most of the game as well. Wade had them so scared of VY running the LBs were playing too shallow and they were not attacking him with the pass rush. He had them in no man's land half the game. You have to commit to something.
 
If Ball is the big problem with this defense, (and I agree he is a huge problem), it's Wade and Campo's fault for actually believing a guy who was a low round pick and had rarely been on the field the past 3 years could come in and start at FS (not his natural position) and play at a sufficently high level. This is ALL on those two!!
 
They were so sure he would be better than Hamlin they cut him and did not bother to have an alternative around just in case. That is on BOTH of them.
 
Primetime42;3621905 said:
So the coaches and players on this team are lying? I know they're inept and frustratingly stupid at times, but that's an incredibly stupid thing to lie about, especially if all the "experts" would be able to see that it's not true. I haven't seen them called on it yet.

Lie about what ?

BTW, you're not telling me anything I didn't already know, thanks.

Well, if you already knew that Simms has the same access to films that coaches do, and he studies them more than he ever did, why did you say:

" Phil Simms has simply not observed all the necessary film and data to observe what happened on those big plays " ?

Are there any hidden type of films somewhere that only coaches, and nobody else, have access to that show something different ?
 

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