Vinny Testaverde for QB coach.

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I know many here have not-so-fond memories of Vinny's stint here in Dallas (although much of the problems Dallas faced in 2004 superseded any thin Vinny brought to the table)

But here's a good reason why he may be a solid hire:

Romo idolizes Vinny. If Wilson is doing a poor job of coaching and getting Romo to prepare properly at QB, then why not hire a guy that is an avid film guy and will ensure that Romo is ready each and every week?

I have no idea if Vinny is even interested in coaching but if I were Jerry, I'd at least gauge his interest. Wade Wilson does nothing for me as a QB coach. Vinny might.
 

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windward;2546255 said:
I know many here have not-so-fond memories of Vinny's stint here in Dallas (although much of the problems Dallas faced in 2004 superseded any thin Vinny brought to the table)

But here's a good reason why he may be a solid hire:

Romo idolizes Vinny. If Wilson is doing a poor job of coaching and getting Romo to prepare properly at QB, then why not hire a guy that is an avid film guy and will ensure that Romo is ready each and every week?

I have no idea if Vinny is even interested in coaching but if I were Jerry, I'd at least gauge his interest. Wade Wilson does nothing for me as a QB coach. Vinny might.


Romo idolizes Vinny huh? and where did you hear this golden nugget ?
 

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dadymat;2546260 said:
Romo idolizes Vinny huh? and where did you hear this golden nugget ?
I dont know about him idolizing him, but Vinny was his mentor while he was here.
 

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dadymat;2546260 said:
Romo idolizes Vinny huh? and where did you hear this golden nugget ?
Vinny taught him how to be an NFL QB.
 

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windward;2546263 said:
Vinny taught him how to be an NFL QB.

Just because they were on the same team and Vinny showed him the ropes as a Rookie don't mean he idolizes him..........id be concerned about any QB who chose Vinny as idol............and i believe it was S Peyton who showed him how to be an NFL QB
 

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dadymat;2546264 said:
Just because they were on the same team and Vinny showed him the ropes as a Rookie don't mean he idolizes him..........id be concerned about any QB who chose Vinny as idol............and i believe it was S Peyton who showed him how to be an NFL QB
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/2007-11-26-romo-wisconsin_N.htm

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Romo was a three-year starter at Eastern Illinois and the Division I-AA player of the year as a senior. He went undrafted mostly because of concerns about his arm strength, and signed with the Cowboys, who had Vinny Testaverde as their starter and had acquired Drew Henson as a possible quarterback of the future. Romo made the roster because Quincy Carter failed a drug test during training camp and was suspended indefinitely by the NFL.
That turned out especially well for Romo because Testaverde became his mentor. Testaverde had become a workout fiend, and had untold experiences as a 41-year-old starting quarterback at the time.
"From what I could gather, (Romo) really learned a lot about not just the game, but life as a professional athlete," Gerber said. "They spent a lot of time together. He worked very hard, not just physically, for the eventual day his opportunity would come."
 

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Romo, for sure, needs to get "Holmgren-ized" by somebody. Maybe he needs to be "Testeverde-ized", I don't know.
But I DO KNOW that this "Farvre B-Movie" is getting old. I like the kid and all. He has drive, he's exiting and seems to want to win. But, by God, someone needs to bring this boy into the 21st century and teach him how to play a "complete" QB program.
Romo could be a Hall of Fame'r someday. But there's no doubt that some disciplinarian teacher needs to give him the goods for a year or two to "fine tune" him and "mature" him........................
 

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I think all of Tony's worst flaws were magnified in this year's chaos.

Romo is always going to have gunslinging tendencies. He's always going to be the guy who tries to make things happen. He's going to do that as much as he can, as long as he can.

But when you have a line that isn't blocking well, a scheme that doesn't seem to emphasize the run enough to make you much more than one dimensional, receivers crying for the ball while running poor routes (if they are even correct at all) who also happen to not really fight for the ball for you, and you find yourself behind in a bunch of games...and you still try to make something out of nothing, what you get are a bunch of turnovers. You hold the ball too long, make throws you shouldn't make, you do anything to score points because you know that a punt doesn't help you in this case.

I know this could be a chicken v. egg argument to some, but I think if you look back through history at some of the best QBs, you will see that they weren't nearly as good when their teams were struggling. All of them - Favre, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and everyone else - struggle when they are forced to do absolutely everything for their team. And their struggles are very similar to what Romo dealt with this year.

And I still think Tony was hurting.
 

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As long as Intercepteverde is not going to be on the field then as a QB coach I could see it being a good thing. Vinny never ever was criticised for giveing less then 110% or for not taking it very seriously or not being prepared. And the familiarization that it would give Tony is also a thouhgt- Tony would KNOW he had someone in his corner no matter what.
 

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that's not a bad idea, about Vinny. Believe it or not, he's mentored alot of QBs ( Chad Pennington was another ) that he's played with. He learned that quality ( the mentoring ) from another back up QB who mentored Dan Marino ( Don Strock ) when he played in Cleveland/Baltimore and Strock was the QB coach. He said that, for the first time ever ( and he had already played a few years in Tampa ) he learned how to breakdown films and use them properly..

However, it would take alot more than an assistant coach salary ( usually about 200K ) to get him to move to Dallas from New York. Part of the reason why he refused to come back for the 100th time out of retirement to play for the Patriots was because he didn't want to leave his home in NY.
 

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Might be a good ideal, and good post, not sure if vinny wants to be a QB's coach though, its alot more work involved, time consuming, and you have to be the guy that kicks the QBs rear end when needed.
 

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Considering pretty much everyone agrees Romo needs a tougher better coach to get him on track, what would a SB be worth to Jerruh? An extra 500,000 or maybe more is chump change for him if it takes Romo to the next level.
 

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If there is someone who could get players/a player to work harder and become more focused it would be Vinny. I remember hearing during the Panthers/Saints that he talked to DeAngelo Williams about how he had all the talent in the world but if he kept up his poor work ethic, not watching film, and staying out of shape he wouldn't have a job much longer.

Must have worked :laugh2:
 

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I was thinking more along the lines of Major Applewhite

he's already a QB coach at Texas, and doing pretty well with Colt McCoy

not a Texas fan/homer
 

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iRoot4Losers;2546962 said:
I was thinking more along the lines of Major Applewhite

he's already a QB coach at Texas, and doing pretty well with Colt McCoy

not a Texas fan/homer

so someone with less experience than Garrett ....:confused:
 

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dadymat;2546966 said:
so someone with less experience than Garrett ....:confused:

QB coach my man

not offensive coordinator

he only has to deal with 3 people, at the most
 

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ddh33;2546300 said:
I think all of Tony's worst flaws were magnified in this year's chaos.

Romo is always going to have gunslinging tendencies. He's always going to be the guy who tries to make things happen. He's going to do that as much as he can, as long as he can.

But when you have a line that isn't blocking well, a scheme that doesn't seem to emphasize the run enough to make you much more than one dimensional, receivers crying for the ball while running poor routes (if they are even correct at all) who also happen to not really fight for the ball for you, and you find yourself behind in a bunch of games...and you still try to make something out of nothing, what you get are a bunch of turnovers. You hold the ball too long, make throws you shouldn't make, you do anything to score points because you know that a punt doesn't help you in this case.

I know this could be a chicken v. egg argument to some, but I think if you look back through history at some of the best QBs, you will see that they weren't nearly as good when their teams were struggling. All of them - Favre, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and everyone else - struggle when they are forced to do absolutely everything for their team. And their struggles are very similar to what Romo dealt with this year.

And I still think Tony was hurting.

Finally, someone gets it.
 

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Wrangler87;2547103 said:
Finally, someone gets it.
~Sniff sniff~

I've been saying this for weeks. Thanks for ignoring me.

:cry2:

j/k

I agree.
 
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