Wade Phillips = Drew Bledsoe

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This team seriously takes me back to 2006 with Bledsoe. We know what we had in him, so instead of going forward with what we KNEW we elected to go with the unproven but far more promise than the current situation.

Wade Phillips is Drew Bledsoe. We know who he is, and what he brings to the table. I'm not a fan. Therefore, why not at least SEE what we can get from promoting Garrett? We know what Wade is as a head coach, we DONT know what Garrett is. I'm not saying Garrett will have the same effect as Romo. I'm saying no one knows, and we should at least take on the opportunity.

I would like nothing more than for Wade to be shown the door, promote Garrett, and just see what happens for the rest of the year. Garrett either proves he can handle the job, or we start over in 2011 with a new staff, and presumably a whole new core of players, sans the few elite players we have on this team.

To me, this season is over if Wade Phillips is the head coach.
 
I'm next, I'm next, I'm next!

Wade Phillips = Bobby Carpenter!
 
NextGenBoys;3611873 said:
This team seriously takes me back to 2006 with Bledsoe. We know what we had in him, so instead of going forward with what we KNEW we elected to go with the unproven but far more promise than the current situation.

Wade Phillips is Drew Bledsoe. We know who he is, and what he brings to the table. I'm not a fan. Therefore, why not at least SEE what we can get from promoting Garrett? We know what Wade is as a head coach, we DONT know what Garrett is. I'm not saying Garrett will have the same effect as Romo. I'm saying no one knows, and we should at least take on the opportunity.

I would like nothing more than for Wade to be shown the door, promote Garrett, and just see what happens for the rest of the year. Garrett either proves he can handle the job, or we start over in 2011 with a new staff, and presumably a whole new core of players, sans the few elite players we have on this team.

To me, this season is over if Wade Phillips is the head coach.


What has Garrett really shown you that says he can do the job? If anything Sherman has shown me he understands his job and has proven he can do it.

Garrett hasnt even shown me the offense can constitanly go forward.

Show me what Garrett has proving to you to make this call?
 
ShiningStar;3611901 said:
What has Garrett really shown you that says he can do the job? If anything Sherman has shown me he understands his job and has proven he can do it.

Garrett hasnt even shown me the offense can constitanly go forward.

Show me what Garrett has proving to you to make this call?

Like I said in another post, Garrett has at least shown that he can put up huge numbers on offense, stats wise. Granted that they don't always amount to scoring, but the rationalization/justification can be given that it is a lack of discipline under Wade that is causing these scoring problems, and that if he could instill more discipline and change the practice culture, the problems will resolve as a result. I'm not saying that's the case - it may or may not be - but that could be an argument that is put forward.
 
nyc;3611878 said:
I'm next, I'm next, I'm next!

Wade Phillips = Bobby Carpenter!


oh, oh, oh, my turn, my turn!

Wade Phillips = Dave Campo


Winner!
 
SultanOfSix;3611932 said:
Like I said in another post, Garrett has at least shown that he can put up huge numbers on offense, stats wise. Granted that they don't always amount to scoring, but the rationalization/justification can be given that it is a lack of discipline under Wade that is causing these scoring problems, and that if he could instill more discipline and change the practice culture, the problems will resolve as a result. I'm not saying that's the case - it may or may not be - but that could be an argument that is put forward.


I would not go to battle with this argument because I could shut it down faster than you can prove it.

In fact the only thing ive seen from Garrett is he no longer wants to be here. I think the whole HC would only irk him off more.

he has proven on the field he does not want to be here, if your enemy SCREAMS to you he is your enemy, why wont you listen.

There is nothing on the field this season proves to me he wants to be here NOR wants the HC job.

2 weeks to be that bad tells me you dont want that job.
 
ShiningStar;3611959 said:
I would not go to battle with this argument because I could shut it down faster than you can prove it.

In fact the only thing ive seen from Garrett is he no longer wants to be here. I think the whole HC would only irk him off more.

he has proven on the field he does not want to be here, if your enemy SCREAMS to you he is your enemy, why wont you listen.

There is nothing on the field this season proves to me he wants to be here NOR wants the HC job.

2 weeks to be that bad tells me you dont want that job.

Dude, I have no freaking idea what you just said. :confused:
 
ShiningStar;3611901 said:
Show me what Garrett has proving to you to make this call?

I wouldn't hire him off the street, but he does have the advantage of knowing the players and systems in place. And if you bring in a savvy vet OC you actually eliminate one of his weaknesses, which is game day play calling.

If the rumors are true and he is more detail oriented and demands more accountability, then maybe the players respond to that and we start cutting down some of the mistakes.

Look, its the best of bad choices. There aren't many good coaches that are going to walk into this mess, much less mid-season. And even if they do they are not going to be able to hire their own staff, put in their own system, etc. The season is truly gone at that point.

Best of all you test drive Garrett in a season that is probably gone anyway, not waste all of next year too if Jerry is too stubborn to go outside his comfort zone again and JG really can't hack it.

Its all better than just staying the course with Wade at this point.
 
SultanOfSix;3611965 said:
Dude, I have no freaking idea what you just said. :confused:


Garrett keeps proving to us he does not want this job does not want to be here, does not want anything but to run from this team.

It took him two weeks to bring this disaster and field it yesterday? Does anything from yesterdays game prove to you he wants the job? Is the offense clicking? Is the running game working?

What part of Garrett has proven to you he doesnt want to be here doesnt make sense? The first drive of the season proved to me without a shadow of a doubt he was done and finished here. His statement for the whole season was over in that drive against the Skins where he screwed up the drive by calling that sling pass to the WR in the hopes we get no yardage which is mostly what that play gets us.

This is it, our bye is over we get no other time to recuperate and in 2 weeks this was his gameplan for the Titans, to prove he does not want this job at all.
 
wileedog;3611975 said:
I wouldn't hire him off the street, but he does have the advantage of knowing the players and systems in place. And if you bring in a savvy vet OC you actually eliminate one of his weaknesses, which is game day play calling.

If the rumors are true and he is more detail oriented and demands more accountability, then maybe the players respond to that and we start cutting down some of the mistakes.

Look, its the best of bad choices. There aren't many good coaches that are going to walk into this mess, much less mid-season. And even if they do they are not going to be able to hire their own staff, put in their own system, etc. The season is truly gone at that point.

Best of all you test drive Garrett in a season that is probably gone anyway, not waste all of next year too if Jerry is too stubborn to go outside his comfort zone again and JG really can't hack it.

Its all better than just staying the course with Wade at this point.


But if i can show you that he doesnt want to be here, and he doesnt want to be here, do you think he wants that job?
 
ShiningStar;3611979 said:
But if i can show you that he doesnt want to be here, and he doesnt want to be here, do you think he wants that job?

You have a strange way of saying Garrett hasn't shown that he can handle the head coaching job by equating it with "he doesn't want to be here."
 
27 points, Felix with over 100 yards rushing and Romo over 400 passing? You think Garrett is showing he doesnt want to be here? Dude, Wade's D gave up 34 points to the Titans, if anybody is showing they dont want to be here it is Wade Phillips.
 
SultanOfSix;3611983 said:
You have a strange way of saying Garrett hasn't shown that he can handle the head coaching job by equating it with "he doesn't want to be here."


Give me another reason this offense is this dreaded? If its not the coaches its the players, who is doing? What has Roy done to say he hasnt caught on? By playing and doing whats asked?

Which player said dump flo so we can bring in Barron and give him to HH so we can get more penalized? Your offensive/assistant coach didnt have a problem with it?

Why is this offense collapsing and afraid to score with Austin who should be unstoppable at this point? Why are half the talented players doing well on teams where our best guys arent getting anywhere near the help other teams are giving their players.

Did you see Young throw one interception yesterday? His throws were clear and open and his targets *except of their own ability* had good chances to make all the catches needed.

Why is Romo still trying to sling the ball into small windows? Why is Felix and Barber still a debate at this point?

Why is Ogletree not axed yet and someone else brought in to find a better WR. I think Ogletree has been giving enough to say hes okay but not good or better.

It took Garrett 2 weeks to come up with an offense that can get points but gets scared at the red zone? Why is that? Why cant we just see he doesnt have it or wants to be here and move on with it? Are we going to sacrifice wins for a " lets see what the guy can do" mantra? I dotn think so.
 
Maybe at halftime of our game against Minnesota, after Wade sets a new record for first half blank/confused stares, Al Michaels will throw it down to the field to Suzy Kolber, who will say

"I just got word from Jerry Jones....he said 'I'm going with Garrett.'"
 
ShiningStar;3611979 said:
But if i can show you that he doesnt want to be here, and he doesnt want to be here, do you think he wants that job?

I don't know how you are going to show me that, but its an entirely different question. If he doesn't want it then move on to something else, doesn't mean we shouldn't at least ask.
 
I can't decide who should be insulted more by the comparison, Wade or Drew.
 
skicat1898;3611994 said:
27 points, Felix with over 100 yards rushing and Romo over 400 passing? You think Garrett is showing he doesnt want to be here? Dude, Wade's D gave up 34 points to the Titans, if anybody is showing they dont want to be here it is Wade Phillips.


what did we do in the red zone? This is why Martellus Bennett was brought in. a 6'7 guy who can jump for the ball. Oh dear lords why isnt this working? Because regardless of your yards, they dont equate to TD's and when we get to the redzone we get scared. We dont muscle our way in, sometimes we get to cute, sometimes we bring out a unknown FG kicker so we can gamble on the roulette table.

I dont know how you can watch this offense tear all the way down to the red zone than accept a goose eye and not want to hange the OC who should be all over this problem.

It was a problem last year and its a problem this year. The only difference is Garrett just doesnt want to be here and thas okay, it happens. People want to move on, maybe he doesnt like how things are run, maybe he's done with Jerry and his compulsive ineptude.

Something is not clicking with this offense and all fingers right now have got to point to the OC unless he can point it somewhere else.

Now i agree the offensive line coach HH is done and should ahve been let go in the offseason, but its still under the OC to get something done. Chicago did it, GB is doing it, we should be able to do it.

The OC and in our case we have two coaches, 1 DC and 1 OC, all the offensive problems fall under Garrett. Garrett has got to either fix it or step aside. Personally I feel he wants out. Thats all, I think hes proven to me something isnt right here and its best to get out and start somewhere else.
 
wileedog;3612008 said:
I don't know how you are going to show me that, but its an entirely different question. If he doesn't want it then move on to something else, doesn't mean we shouldn't at least ask.


You can look at the red zone woes, you can look at the bad play calling, you can look at the Felix and Barber problems and how they are mishandled. You can even look at the Romo to Bennett connection. The whole tight end problem, I think Witten is outmatching most LB's out there and should be used for third down, but we hand it off for a run for a couple yards for the punter instead of going to the guy who has the better chance of beating his man. I dont care of Wittens YAC but when it comes to catching it, cept this season, hes usually good.

All this falls under the OC who had two weeks to game plan and really didnt try hard. I cant see how any one looks at Austin, Roy and Dez, and our running game and say "how are you not winning here?"

I think the whole league said, use Felix first, Barber to mop up, everyone else gets it but us.

Lets toss it to Bennett who should be our red zone guy, but we'll put him in a spot where the LB;s can make the plays and he'll stand there and wait for it at waist level instead of jumping for the ball where he has a better chance for it.

Do we do the screen enough around here?

I dont know, i look at this offense and say wow, we can do something here and he looks at our offense and say "get to the red zone, than stop if possible?"

I dont know, maybe the guy is shooting for OC of the year award, but i dont see it.
 

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