Walterfootball Potential Draft busts

[MonsterD]

2023 NFL Draft Potential Busts: Defense​

https://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/college/Georgia_logo.gif Nolan Smith, OLB, Georgia
Smith looks like a dangerous pick, in my opinion. At Georgia, he never put up a season of good production, averaging roughly three sacks annually over his career, despite a scheme that sets up outside rushers. Smith has great speed, but at 6-foot-2, 238 pounds, he is extremely undersized for the NFL. He lacks the length and weight to shed blocks, and his speed alone will not be enough to consistently beat pro offensive tackles. Smith's body type and lack of production look like warning signs for bust potential.

What is Charlie talking about? 6'2" 238lbs is undersized for a modern NFL Lber? No he missed the last 10 years or so when Lbers got smaller and smaller to get faster and better in pass coverages.

Look at the other players that are going to be drafted this year as Lbers.
The ones in the 250s,260s. The few in 270s and Keion White at 280 are all pass rushers and edge maybe some are 3-4 OLB but most are 4-3 ends too.

Yasir Abdullah Louisville 6'1 237
Will Anderson Alabama 6'4 253
Felix Anudike-Uzomah Kansas State 6'3 255
Habakkuk Baldonado Pittsburgh 6'4 251
Jeremy Banks Tennessee 6'1 232
Micah Baskerville LSU 6'1 221
Robert Beal Georgia 6'4 247
Jack Campbell Iowa 6'5 249
Andre Carter II Army 6'7 256
Brenton Cox Florida 6'4 250
SirVocea Dennis Pittsburgh 6'1 226
Isaiah Foskey Notre Dame 6'5 264
Ali Gaye LSU 6'6 263
Jalen Graham Purdue 6'2 220
Derick Hall Auburn 6'3 254
Nick Hampton Appalachian State 6'2 236
Zach Harrison Ohio State 6'6 274
Daiyan Henley Washington State 6'2 225
KJ Henry Clemson 6'4 251
Nick Herbig Wisconsin 6'2 240
Shaka Heyward Duke 6'3 235
Dylan Horton TCU 6'4 257
Thomas Incoom Central Michigan 6'2 262
DJ Johnson Oregon 6'4 260
Cam Jones Indiana 6'1 226
Andre Jones Jr. Louisiana 6'5 248
Isaiah Land Florida A&M 6'4 236
Eku Leota Auburn 6'3 252
Ochaun Mathis Nebraska 6'5 250
Will McDonald IV Iowa State 6039 239
Ventrell Miller Florida 6'0 232
Isaiah Moore N.C. State 6'2 233
Caleb Murphy Ferris State 6'3 254
Myles Murphy Clemson 6'5 268
BJ Ojulari LSU 6'2 248
Anfernee Orji Vanderbilt 6'1 230
DeMarvion Overshown Texas 6'3 229
Ivan Pace Jr. Cincinnati 5'10 231
Owen Pappoe Auburn 6'0 225
Lonnie Phelps Kansas 6'2 244
Jose Ramirez Eastern Michigan 6'2 242
Tavius Robinson Mississippi 6'6 257
Drew Sanders Arkansas 6'4 235
Noah Sewell Oregon 6'2 246
Trenton Simpson Clemson 6'2 235
Nolan Smith Georgia 6'2 238
Noah Taylor North Carolina 6'4 238
Charlie Thomas Georgia Tech 6'3 216
Henry To'oTo'o Alabama 6'1 227
Tuli Tuipulotu USC 6'3 266
Lukas Van Ness Iowa 6'5 272
Tyrus Wheat Mississippi State 6'2 263
Keion White Georgia Tech 6'5 285
Dorian Williams Tulane 6'1 228
Tyree Wilson Texas Tech 6'6 271
Dee Winters TCU 5'11 227
Byron Young Tennessee 6'2 250

There's a dude in there at 216 lbs, lol McDonald an edge rusher is one pound more than N.Smith, guess he is a bust too.

 

[Cowboyny]

Fuller was a more complete WR coming out. Fuller's knock was his hands more than anything.

Think they are very similar type players, I would throw also Desean Jackson as a comp. That's the type of receiver Hyatt will become. Not #1 receivers, but more of a #2 who can stretch the field.

 

[Sydla]

Think they are very similar type players, I would throw also Desean Jackson as a comp. That's the type of receiver Hyatt will become. Not #1 receivers, but more of a #2 who can stretch the field.

Jackson was a more complete WR too.

Hyatt is easily the rawest of the three.

 

[Cowboyny]

Jackson was a more complete WR too.

Hyatt is easily the rawest of the three.

To me, none are considered 1st rd talents. If you are drafting a 1st rd receiver, the expectation should always be a future #1 WR. Don't see any in this class.

 

[Nova]

Ringo most likely imo.

Happens every year.

College football sports personalities create compelling expectations around players from every team, and those expectations carry them more than their actual play.

IMO, Ringo is the epitome of this.

 

[Nova]

Nolan Smith is very risky, I agree.

He's an easy to like kid with a lot of potential, but yeah, the production wasn't there.

I think he's also getting a little more of a stock bump because evaluators are looking for the next Parsons or Reddick.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Maybe he needs an IT guy?

Honestly Ive always thought of Walter and Charlie Campbell as guys living in their moms basement, trolling online games and scouting football players while sucking down hot pockets

 

[fivetwos]

Newsflash…..

They are ALL potential busts.

 

[Stash]

Honestly Ive always thought of Walter and Charlie Campbell as guys living in their moms basement, trolling online games and scouting football players while sucking down hot pockets

Do you remember Joel Buschbaum and his work for Pro Football Weekly?

 

[Pass2Run]

Surprised to see WalterFootball still has a functioning website.

Why do you say that? Their site blows but they at least know what they're doing. Scouts sometimes utilize their info. Its a reputable source...

 

[Pass2Run]

Newsflash…..

They are ALL potential busts.

You're telling me Felix Anudike Uzomah could bust?

No way that guy busts. He's gonna be a good player.

 

[timb2]

Tyree Wilson- Alton Robinson Part Deux

 

[dogberry]

I went to Walter for a radar reading on QBs arms.

Off to see if he stills posts that metri.

 

[dogberry]

Ourlads is the source, but current mph not readily apparent.

 

[xwalker]

Jackson was a more complete WR too.

Hyatt is easily the rawest of the three.

Think they are very similar type players, I would throw also Desean Jackson as a comp. That's the type of receiver Hyatt will become. Not #1 receivers, but more of a #2 who can stretch the field.

Hyatt is not that raw.

He well developed on the types of routes that he ran. He just didn't run the full route tree.

 

[cnuball21]

Why do you say that? Their site blows but they at least know what they're doing. Scouts sometimes utilize their info. Its a reputable source...

Their website is absolutely terrible…it’s inundated with ads and moves at a snails speed.

 

[xwalker]

What is Charlie talking about? 6'2" 238lbs is undersized for a modern NFL Lber? No he missed the last 10 years or so when Lbers got smaller and smaller to get faster and better in pass coverages.

Look at the other players that are going to be drafted this year as Lbers.
The ones in the 250s,260s. The few in 270s and Keion White at 280 are all pass rushers and edge maybe some are 3-4 OLB but most are 4-3 ends too.

Yasir Abdullah Louisville 6'1 237
Will Anderson Alabama 6'4 253
Felix Anudike-Uzomah Kansas State 6'3 255
Habakkuk Baldonado Pittsburgh 6'4 251
Jeremy Banks Tennessee 6'1 232
Micah Baskerville LSU 6'1 221
Robert Beal Georgia 6'4 247
Jack Campbell Iowa 6'5 249
Andre Carter II Army 6'7 256
Brenton Cox Florida 6'4 250
SirVocea Dennis Pittsburgh 6'1 226
Isaiah Foskey Notre Dame 6'5 264
Ali Gaye LSU 6'6 263
Jalen Graham Purdue 6'2 220
Derick Hall Auburn 6'3 254
Nick Hampton Appalachian State 6'2 236
Zach Harrison Ohio State 6'6 274
Daiyan Henley Washington State 6'2 225
KJ Henry Clemson 6'4 251
Nick Herbig Wisconsin 6'2 240
Shaka Heyward Duke 6'3 235
Dylan Horton TCU 6'4 257
Thomas Incoom Central Michigan 6'2 262
DJ Johnson Oregon 6'4 260
Cam Jones Indiana 6'1 226
Andre Jones Jr. Louisiana 6'5 248
Isaiah Land Florida A&M 6'4 236
Eku Leota Auburn 6'3 252
Ochaun Mathis Nebraska 6'5 250
Will McDonald IV Iowa State 6039 239
Ventrell Miller Florida 6'0 232
Isaiah Moore N.C. State 6'2 233
Caleb Murphy Ferris State 6'3 254
Myles Murphy Clemson 6'5 268
BJ Ojulari LSU 6'2 248
Anfernee Orji Vanderbilt 6'1 230
DeMarvion Overshown Texas 6'3 229
Ivan Pace Jr. Cincinnati 5'10 231
Owen Pappoe Auburn 6'0 225
Lonnie Phelps Kansas 6'2 244
Jose Ramirez Eastern Michigan 6'2 242
Tavius Robinson Mississippi 6'6 257
Drew Sanders Arkansas 6'4 235
Noah Sewell Oregon 6'2 246
Trenton Simpson Clemson 6'2 235
Nolan Smith Georgia 6'2 238
Noah Taylor North Carolina 6'4 238
Charlie Thomas Georgia Tech 6'3 216
Henry To'oTo'o Alabama 6'1 227
Tuli Tuipulotu USC 6'3 266
Lukas Van Ness Iowa 6'5 272
Tyrus Wheat Mississippi State 6'2 263
Keion White Georgia Tech 6'5 285
Dorian Williams Tulane 6'1 228
Tyree Wilson Texas Tech 6'6 271
Dee Winters TCU 5'11 227
Byron Young Tennessee 6'2 250

There's a dude in there at 216 lbs, lol McDonald an edge rusher is one pound more than N.Smith, guess he is a bust too.

Nolan Smith projects to DE in the NFL...

 

[MonsterD]

Nolan Smith projects to DE in the NFL...

I keep reading he has coverage skills, so hand in the dirt DE? If so yes he would need 20 lbs to do that in the NFL.