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[Flamma]

Duuuuuddddeeeeee.....that is great stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dak is in the 8-16 range. There is often not much difference between 8 and 16.

Right, and any difference wouldn't be game changing. It's going to come down to coaching, team talent, and execution.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

@GINeric why do you love Dak so much?

Check the box

[ ] Because he kisses good and treats me rough
[ ] Because he makes Brady and Rogers and Mahomes look like rookies
[ ] Because his wall poster speaks to me at night
[ ] Because I need a cause here at the CZ
[ ] Because it is fun to attract the ire of logical fans
[ ] Because Dak is supreme, my true love and life's companion
[ ] Because I want to marry him (for real!)


Holla!

 

[DeaconMoss]

Its actually cool facts bro. Stories are made up, facts are recordings of something that actually took place. Glad I could help clear that up for you.

Im not projecting anything because they are two different types of quarterbacks in totally different systems. Hopefully Dak can mature and become 70% of what Manning ended up being and I'll take that. Manning was the smartest quarterback to have ever played imo.

Then stop mentioning meaningless Manning stats for comparison. Manning and Dak should never be in the same thread unless it's a thread about wishing Dallas had a franchise type guy like Manning.

 

[GINeric]

Then stop mentioning meaningless Manning stats for comparison. Manning and Dak should never be in the same thread unless it's a thread about wishing Dallas had a franchise type guy like Manning.

Manning is one of the greatest to do it. Im not comparing Manning's entire career to Dak's 5 full seasons... i just showed that after Manning's FIRST 5 FULL SEASONS, he had ONE playoff win just like Dak and lesser overall stats than Dak.

My point wasn't to say Dak is a better quarterback.... it was to say, how can you place judgment on one quarterback after 5 full seasons and not the other quarterback at that same time frame. I was just saying give Dak the opportunity to see what he can do with his 6th and 7th seasoned years like the other quarterbacks.

Hell, Stafford didn't win a playoff game for 10 years.... from what people said on this board, a great quarterback suppose to elevate the talent around him and offensive line injuries and bad front office moves are not legit excuses. People said those things concerning Dak, so i guess that's the standard for all quarterbacks according to their logic.

 

[GINeric]

NOW YOU SAY DAK THE HAVK IS BETTER THAN MANNING!!!
now me ire is really raised!

Could somebody ban this lying ***, fake Cowboys fan troll, weak coward *** bum who's only safe haven is being a keyboard.... this coward adds nothing to the topics.

 

[starfan1]

Could somebody ban this lying ***, fake Cowboys fan troll, weak coward *** bum who's only safe haven is being a keyboard.... this coward adds nothing to the topics.

They know your posting history they are just trying to trigger you

don’t let them

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Could somebody ban this lying ***, fake Cowboys fan troll, weak coward *** bum who's only safe haven is being a keyboard.... this coward adds nothing to the topics.

That post really hurt me.

... I am ... not ... weak.
I stand up to self-appointed know it alls.

If you really, really want to hurt me, just scrape off me Liverpool Mongols tattoo.
But I am not weak!

 

[GINeric]

That post really hurt me.

... I am ... not ... weak.
I stand up to self-appointed know it alls.

If you really, really want to hurt me, just scrape off me Liverpool Mongols tattoo.
But I am not weak!

Its cool. Got a surprise for you soon. Its crazy how this internet thing works.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Its cool. Got a surprise for you soon. Its crazy how this internet thing works.

I have a surprise for you: A Dak wall poster!!!!!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Its cool. Got a surprise for you soon. Its crazy how this internet thing works.

You are a know it all, correct?

 

[Haimerej]

Manning is one of the greatest to do it. Im not comparing Manning's entire career to Dak's 5 full seasons... i just showed that after Manning's FIRST 5 FULL SEASONS, he had ONE playoff win just like Dak and lesser overall stats than Dak.

My point wasn't to say Dak is a better quarterback.... it was to say, how can you place judgment on one quarterback after 5 full seasons and not the other quarterback at that same time frame. I was just saying give Dak the opportunity to see what he can do with his 6th and 7th seasoned years like the other quarterbacks.

Hell, Stafford didn't win a playoff game for 10 years.... from what people said on this board, a great quarterback suppose to elevate the talent around him and offensive line injuries and bad front office moves are not legit excuses. People said those things concerning Dak, so i guess that's the standard for all quarterbacks according to their logic.

These takes are why so many would rather tease you than engage.

You say Dak has better stats than Manning, but that’s ridiculous and you know it because we already went over this stuff. Manning was at least top 3 in the major statistical categories in every one of those first 5 years, including his rookie season. Most of the years he was number 1. The game has changed since the '90's. There was never a debate about Manning's abilities.

As regards Stafford- name 1 player outside of Megatron who played with him in DET. Off the top of my head I can only think of Suh. It's intellectually dishonest to compare Stafford's team in DET with Dak's supporting cast. Dak has had multiple All-Pros just on the OL most of his career. The 2016 team had 5 All Pro players. For context, Stafford's "super team," last year produced 4 and one was the place kicker.

Again- these takes are the definition of ridiculous, which is why you're getting so much ridicule. You're not making any valid points and getting mad because most people won't take the time to educate you on why these comparisons are absurd.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

They know your posting history they are just trying to trigger you

don’t let them

Awww, now you ruined it.
Our intricate sheme to lay bare an agitated and very miffed bloke.
OK, boys, lets go home and think of another scheme because GINandtonic is on to us with the help of his female cousin, starfan.
Trigger alert averted. Trigger alert averted!
That is all.

 

[GINeric]

These takes are why so many would rather tease you than engage.

You say Dak has better stats than Manning, but that’s ridiculous and you know it because we already went over this stuff. Manning was at least top 3 in the major statistical categories in every one of those first 5 years, including his rookie season. Most of the years he was number 1. The game has changed since the '90's. There was never a debate about Manning's abilities.

As regards Stafford- name 1 player outside of Megatron who played with him in DET. Off the top of my head I can only think of Suh. It's intellectually dishonest to compare Stafford's team in DET with Dak's supporting cast. Dak has had multiple All-Pros just on the OL most of his career. The 2016 team had 5 All Pro players. For context, Stafford's "super team," last year produced 4 and one was the place kicker.

Again- these takes are the definition of ridiculous, which is why you're getting so much ridicule. You're not making any valid points and getting mad because most people won't take the time to educate you on why these comparisons are absurd.

First of all, it doesn't bother me when the low IQ kings come out to ridicule..... 2 or 3 of them are honestly cowards on this board and most likely in real life. The reason i say that???

Well on of the cowards just recently said, an injured offensive line, bad coaching and bad personnel moves are no excuse for Dak.... that's what was said, right??

So i asked this same coward, does that apply to other quarterbacks like Stafford??? The same quarterback he labeled as a great quarterback?? The same quarterback who's 8 - 67 against winning teams??? He never answered it....

So maybe you can explain why those types of people set rules for Dak, but those same rules don't apply to NO OTHER QUARTERBACK???

With that said, don't fall into the lies. NEVER have I ever said Dak was better than Manning. I said WITHIN THE FIRST 5 SEASONS.... they both only had ONE PLAYOFF WIN and Dak had slightly better overall numbers than Manning did IN THAT TIME FRAME.

Better numbers more so concerning the ability Dak had to use his legs because Manning was always a statue, less turnovers (i stand to be corrected if im wrong on that one) and a better winning percentage.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

First of all, it doesn't bother me when the low IQ kings come out to ridicule..... 2 or 3 of them are honestly cowards on this board and most likely in real life. The reason i say that???

Well on of the cowards just recently said, an injured offensive line, bad coaching and bad personnel moves are no excuse for Dak.... that's what was said, right??

So i asked this same coward, does that apply to other quarterbacks like Stafford??? The same quarterback he labeled as a great quarterback?? The same quarterback who's 8 - 67 against winning teams??? He never answered it....

So maybe you can explain why those types of people set rules for Dak, but those same rules don't apply to NO OTHER QUARTERBACK???

With that said, don't fall into the lies. NEVER have I ever said Dak was better than Manning. I said WITHIN THE FIRST 5 SEASONS.... they both only had ONE PLAYOFF WIN and Dak had slightly better overall numbers than Manning did IN THAT TIME FRAME.

Better numbers more so concerning the ability Dak had to use his legs because Manning was always a statue, less turnovers (i stand to be corrected if im wrong on that one) and a better winning percentage.

Enough already........go have a drink or to the movies will you!

 

[Haimerej]

First of all, it doesn't bother me when the low IQ kings come out to ridicule..... 2 or 3 of them are honestly cowards on this board and most likely in real life. The reason i say that???

Well on of the cowards just recently said, an injured offensive line, bad coaching and bad personnel moves are no excuse for Dak.... that's what was said, right??

Was it? At this point all we're seeing is you going unhinged because guys aren't playing by your rules.

So i asked this same coward, does that apply to other quarterbacks like Stafford??? The same quarterback he labeled as a great quarterback?? The same quarterback who's 8 - 67 against winning teams??? He never answered it....

So maybe you can explain why those types of people set rules for Dak, but those same rules don't apply to NO OTHER QUARTERBACK???

Because the comparison is ridiculous? Because those guys can't or don't care to take the time to educate a random stranger? Because they're idiots? Because they enjoy seeing you post the same stuff over and over with increasingly more punctuation and capital letters?

With that said, don't fall into the lies. NEVER have I ever said Dak was better than Manning. I said WITHIN THE FIRST 5 SEASONS.... they both only had ONE PLAYOFF WIN and Dak had slightly better overall numbers than Manning did IN THAT TIME FRAME.

And again... it was a different game and Manning was at the top of the class, not being debated about whether he should be in the top 10.

Better numbers more so concerning the ability Dak had to use his legs because Manning was always a statue, less turnovers (i stand to be corrected if im wrong on that one) and a better winning percentage.

The numbers mean nothing. It's completely different eras under different rules.

 

[kskboys]

First of all, it doesn't bother me when the low IQ kings come out to ridicule..... 2 or 3 of them are honestly cowards on this board and most likely in real life. The reason i say that???

Well on of the cowards just recently said, an injured offensive line, bad coaching and bad personnel moves are no excuse for Dak.... that's what was said, right??

So i asked this same coward, does that apply to other quarterbacks like Stafford??? The same quarterback he labeled as a great quarterback?? The same quarterback who's 8 - 67 against winning teams??? He never answered it....

So maybe you can explain why those types of people set rules for Dak, but those same rules don't apply to NO OTHER QUARTERBACK???

With that said, don't fall into the lies. NEVER have I ever said Dak was better than Manning. I said WITHIN THE FIRST 5 SEASONS.... they both only had ONE PLAYOFF WIN and Dak had slightly better overall numbers than Manning did IN THAT TIME FRAME.

Better numbers more so concerning the ability Dak had to use his legs because Manning was always a statue, less turnovers (i stand to be corrected if im wrong on that one) and a better winning percentage.

Chaffe. Meaningless stuff.

 

[GINeric]

Enough already........go have a drink or to the movies will you!

You mean emotional euphoria!!! I love exposing frauds. There's nothing like asking questions in front of this whole board to a troll pretending to be a fan of a team, then EASILY exposing their hypocrisy knowing answering the question collapses their whole flawed logic.

Their next step is to ignore the question and respond back with lies and accusations, making up things I didn't say.... then their next step is to insult me..... LOL!!!

Why go to the movies when exposing trolls and watching them run from questions is better than watching Netflix!!!

Why do trolls run from questions though??? Its like a Hitchcock novel. One of life's biggest mysteries.

 

[Streifenkarl]

You mean emotional euphoria!!! I love exposing frauds. There's nothing like asking questions in front of this whole board to a troll pretending to be a fan of a team, then EASILY exposing their hypocrisy knowing answering the question collapses their whole flawed logic.

Their next step is to ignore the question and respond back with lies and accusations, making up things I didn't say.... then their next step is to insult me..... LOL!!!

Why go to the movies when exposing trolls and watching them run from questions is better than watching Netflix!!!

Why do trolls run from questions though??? Its like a Hitchcock novel. One of life's biggest mysteries.

Well actually you haven't exposed anything but making it clear to everyone on this board that you have serious problems you need to solve elsewhere. You definitely aren't calling out anyone by name calling. You can love Dak all you want, just don't expect others to do the same. You're beating the same drum now in several threads over countless pages which has become more than embarrassing.

I say let's just wait and see how this season goes, how the guys play and what Dak can or can't do. Beating each other's heads in even before the first snap that counts has taken place won't get us anywhere.

 

[GINeric]

Well actually you haven't exposed anything but making it clear to everyone on this board that you have serious problems you need to solve elsewhere. You definitely aren't calling out anyone by name calling. You can love Dak all you want, just don't expect others to do the same. You're beating the same drum now in several threads over countless pages which has become more than embarrassing.

I say let's just wait and see how this season goes, how the guys play and what Dak can or can't do. Beating each other's heads in even before the first snap that counts has taken place won't get us anywhere.

Well actually I have them and here's an example why....

One of them have used winning ONE playoff game in 5 seasons as a reason to say its time to give Dak up... then I brought up two or three other quarterbacks who had only ONE playoff win in their first 5 full seasons but with lesser overall stats than Dak... so i asked that person did he say all the same negative things about those quarterbacks who had the same amount of success starting out.... you know what he did??? He ran from the question and ignored it because he realized is logic didn't make any sense...

Then we had another guy say that injuries to the offensive line, bad personnel moves, and poor coaching is NOT an excuse that Dak can lean on, and a great quarterback suppose to elevate the players around him and I said ok, thats fair.... but I never said Dak was a great quarterback.

This same person said that Matt Stafford was a great quarterback, right??? So I asked him how can Stafford be great and he hasn't won a playoff game until after 10 years in the league and Dak won a playoff in his first couple of seasons???

I then asked him how can Stafford be a great quarterback with an 8 - 67 record against winning teams and Dak has a 13 -20 record against winning teams??? Now remember.... this person said that O-line injuries, bad management and bad coaching isn't an excuse for Dak because great quarterbacks suppose to elevate the players around him, correct???

So I asked him, according to his logic, this same "no excuse" clause placed on Dak applies to Stafford and other quarterbacks as well, right??? He ran from the question just like the other coward.....

When you corner these types of trolls with facts and solid questions.... they first ignore and run from answering the clear cut question because if they do answer it, it exposes their hypocritical agenda. Then... as you are exposing how they are running from the question in front of everyone, they result to lying on you and insulting you. Why do they get so angry over a question???

Its sad and embarrassing for someone to support people who support hypocritical trolls like that on this board. People who support trolls that lie and can't back up their accusations with actual facts and intelligent dialog, and run from questions, have serious problems they need to solve elsewhere.....