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Angus

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Consider trading him
JASON WHITLOCK
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No one asked me, but just in case Carl Peterson and Clark Hunt would like to know where I stand: I’d consider trading Larry Johnson rather than handing him a lucrative contract extension.

Seriously. Oh, I respect what Larry Johnson has accomplished the last two years, back-to-back 1,700-yard seasons, consecutive Pro Bowl appearances and 37 touchdowns.

Larry is owed big money. He’s earned it. You could make a pretty strong argument he’s the NFL’s second-best running back after LaDainian Tomlinson.

I just wouldn’t be in a rush to be the general manager or owner who gave L.T.-type money to L.J. And I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be the coach forced to deal with L.J.’s T.O.-like behavior, especially after that behavior gets protected with close to $20 million in guaranteed bonuses.

The Chiefs have a big decision to make this offseason, and there’s no reason we should act as if reworking Larry’s contract way north is a no-brainer. It’s not.

Larry is far from the most popular player in the Chiefs’ locker room with the players. He’s aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.

“If they give him a huge contract, they’ll create a monster,” one Chiefs player told me this offseason. “And I told Herm that.”

Johnson, according to another teammate, can be a disruptive force in locker-room chemistry. The team’s most valuable and important player, according to a teammate, oftentimes sits in meetings text messaging friends and associates.

We all know Larry loves to make headlines with tell-all interviews. He went on HBO this season and claimed that it was easier for him to play for a black head coach because Herm Edwards knows what it’s like to, among other things, go to nightclubs in the ’hood.

Larry also finds it easier, I assume, to question the offensive strategy of a black head coach who bends over backward trying to satisfy the ego of his star running back, because L.J. had little trouble throwing Edwards and the coaching staff under the bus after Kansas City’s playoff loss.

Three years ago, when the Chargers made Tomlinson the richest running back in the history of the league with a $60 million contract and $20 million in guaranteed bonuses, here’s what the Chargers’ team president was quoted saying about L.T.:

“LaDainian represents everything you want from a player. He is our role model. Every young player should aspire to be like L.T., the way he carries himself on and off the field. He has demonstrated he can do and will do what it takes to be a winner and to be the best.”

Could Carl Peterson say that about L.J. with a straight face?

No way. (FYI: I attempted to contact Peterson and Edwards on Wednesday. They were both legitimately unavailable. Peterson, I was told, was out of town. Edwards, I was told, spent most of Wednesday in meetings with the scouting department.)

But the reasons to consider trading L.J. go deeper than just the quirks in his personality, deeper than the possibility that he might be the next T.O. or Randy Moss.

Johnson carried the ball an NFL-record 416 times last year. In the history of the league, nine running backs have accumulated 390-plus carries in a season. Only one, Eric Dickerson, continued to ascend after toting the rock that many times. Everyone else faded quickly.

Is L.J. the next Eric Dickerson, a terrific player and locker-room cancer with the Rams, Colts, Raiders and Falcons?

Or is L.J. the next Eddie George, Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis or James Wilder?

The one thing I really respect about Johnson is his brutal honesty. He doesn’t hide who he wants to be. As soon as the season was over, he high-tailed it to New York to get to work on whatever it is he wants to do with rapper Jay-Z.

I mean, really, there were two certainties when this season ended: Tiki Barber would begin his career as a broadcaster, and Larry Johnson would be in New York working on his street cred and Roc-A-Fella hand signals.

In pursuit of a new contract, some athletes wouldn’t be nearly as truthful as L.J. They would sneak off to New York while telling everyone about their elaborate plans to rest up and begin a new training regime with their own specialist, Bay Bay McWorkout. They might even invite a television crew to tape them while they push a mobile home on a giant treadmill.

L.J. is going to skip the publicity tour. He believes he has all the leverage he needs. Tony Gonzalez will be 31 in a couple of weeks. Trent Green is still woozy. Dante Hall has fallen and can’t get up. Jared Allen is headed to jail.

L.J. is Kansas City’s lone, unblemished, in-his-prime star. Herm Edwards’ whole plan of attack falls apart without a punishing running back.

The Chiefs have to pay Larry Johnson.

No they don’t. Not if another team is willing to offer something resembling fair value (a top-12 draft pick and a defensive starter or wide receiver). You can find and develop young running backs quickly.

Finding, developing and maintaining a Super Bowl-level chemistry is a lot more elusive, especially when you have a potential T.O. or Randy Moss in your locker room.

I’m not saying the Chiefs should trade Larry Johnson. I’m saying they should consider doing it.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/16700590.htm
 

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OK let's trade for LJ, peterson would lose his job if he traded LJ and Jason Whitlock is a fool.....Larry Johnson balled in college gaining over 2000 yards and now he's tearing it up in the NFL after sitting for 2 years behind Holmes, he's not going nowhere
 

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Not sure I want LJ's personality on the team but he would tear it up in the Big D;)
 

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Q_the_man;1379305 said:
OK let's trade for LJ, peterson would lose his job if he traded LJ and Jason Whitlock is a fool.....Larry Johnson balled in college gaining over 2000 yards and now he's tearing it up in the NFL after sitting for 2 years behind Holmes, he's not going nowhere


Why would you trade for a guy who has this knock on him.

Running backs can be found and are found every year in every round.

Make the offensive line better and our running game will be fine.
 

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Angus;1379302 said:
The Chiefs have to pay Larry Johnson.

No they don’t. Not if another team is willing to offer something resembling fair value (a top-12 draft pick and a defensive starter or wide receiver). You can find and develop young running backs quickly.

I’m not saying the Chiefs should trade Larry Johnson. I’m saying they should consider doing it.

A top 12 and a defensive player,hmm what rookie back will come in gain 1700 yards and carry the rock 400 times, consider what? If I was the Chiefs I would ban Whitlock from the locker room and all Chiefs press conferences
 

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theebs;1379312 said:
Why would you trade for a guy who has this knock on him.

Running backs can be found and are found every year in every round.

Make the offensive line better and our running game will be fine.

We haven't found a RB yet that can do that and I have not heard nothing about LJ on the news getting in trouble or having cotrovesy with teammates.

Believe me their are over 200 cocky players in the NFL and if he can get me 1700 yards running I'll keep him, Hell we had players on dope (irvin) Hookers (irvin) that we love. What if we had traded Irvin in 92 when we found out he was on Dope. that would have been justifiable Correct?
 

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Wow! I would put LJ in the same class as T.O or Randy Moss but he is a diva in training. I think the problem is they dont have the players around him to support them. LJ is a great running back and they need to bring in some more talent on offense that will help him out. His attitude is built around frustration. No he is not LT in terms of attitude but I dont think you trade a player, in todays times, simply because he isnt well like.
 

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I can't stand the person Larry Johnson is. To me he is worse than TO and Deion Sanders combine and thats not just saying a lot, thats spewing on a grand scale.

Jerry would never live down a mistake like that with me... Larry Johnson is great running back, but he is 110% trash to me.
 

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wow.....let's make it a done deal......t.o and Johnson together....fireworks
 

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Larry is far from the most popular player in the Chiefs’ locker room with the players. He’s aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.

between that and the whole text messaging during meetings thing he sounds like a 15 year old girl
 

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Q_the_man;1379305 said:
OK let's trade for LJ, peterson would lose his job if he traded LJ and Jason Whitlock is a fool.....Larry Johnson balled in college gaining over 2000 yards and now he's tearing it up in the NFL after sitting for 2 years behind Holmes, he's not going nowhere


This board is always divided over the issue of performance vs. character.

The case for character though is this, Football is more a team sport than any other.The Patriots have clearly demonstrated the value of teamwork and avoiding the star factor at every position with the exception of QB.The Colts demonstrate the lack of necessity of a star RB for an effective running game as well as the effectiveness of Ladell Betts stepping in for Portis.

Roy Williams showed us this year what happens after a big contract when a player has aspirations of Hollywood fame to go with his fortune--he forgets how to get better.

The 390 carry rule which I saw last year in an extensive essay related to FF is very valid-there are more RBs who go aburptly downhill after heavy usage than most would believe. Result: LJ is not worth the trouble.
 

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LJ has had an awesome line in front of him the last two years.On our line he would be average.
 

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NorthDalal;1379455 said:
Roy Williams showed us this year what happens after a big contract when a player has aspirations of Hollywood fame to go with his fortune--he goes to yet another pro-bowl and sets a career high for picks.


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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NorthDalal;1379455 said:
The case for character though is this, Football is more a team sport than any other.The Patriots have clearly demonstrated the value of teamwork and avoiding the star factor at every position with the exception of QB.

Corey Dillon thinks you have a short memory.
 

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Q_the_man;1379319 said:
We haven't found a RB yet that can do that and I have not heard nothing about LJ on the news getting in trouble or having cotrovesy with teammates.

Believe me their are over 200 cocky players in the NFL and if he can get me 1700 yards running I'll keep him, Hell we had players on dope (irvin) Hookers (irvin) that we love. What if we had traded Irvin in 92 when we found out he was on Dope. that would have been justifiable Correct?

Dallas hasn't found a single running back to do what LJ does, but Julius and Marion combined accomplished the same as Larry. I actually give Jones and Barber some extra credit because the Cowboys O-line is not as good as the Chiefs. KC would have a hard time replacing Johson with a single running back, but may they could get a couple of guys to give them good production.
 

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CrazyCowboy;1379389 said:
wow.....let's make it a done deal......t.o and Johnson together....fireworks

Yea the other team would only send their backups to the game for fear of being affiliated :D
 
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