WAR ROOM: 2005 Mock Draft

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* - underclassman
MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 1


PICK/ TEAM/ PLAYER/ POS/ SCHOOL

(1) 49ers Aaron Rodgers* QB Cal.
The 49ers must rebuild, and Rodgers would be the right way to start if he enters the '05 draft. Rodgers, a junior, has made excellent progress in his development, and most NFL scouts say he is ready to make the move.
(2) Dolphins Cedric Benson RB Texas
Benson, as good as they come, is a physical, hard-running back who could make Miami fans forget about Ricky Williams.
(3) Browns Derrick Johnson OLB Texas
Johnson, an all-around solid linebacker, is a Ray Lewis-type of defender and seems to be near the ball on every play.
(4) Cardinals Kevin Burnett OLB Tennessee
Burnett has explosive speed and tremendous tackling skills.
(5) Raiders Carnell Williams RB Auburn
Williams, a solid workhorse, runs with a chip on his shoulder and can make plays out of nothing with his size, speed and nonstop motor.
(6) Titans Matt Leinart* QB USC
Tennessee might need a QB if Steve McNair retires. Leinart, a junior, could be something special if he enters the '05 draft.
(7) Commanders David Pollack DE Georgia
Every defensive coordinator dreams of an end like him. Pollack's frame, speed, and relentless pursuit should make him a dominant NFL player.
(8) Chargers Antrel Rolle CB Miami (FL)
(from NY Giants) Rolle has the speed, frame and shutdown ability to be a big-time NFL corner.
(9) Bears Mike Williams* WR USC
The Bears need a go-to receiver; Williams has size and is an outstanding playmaker.
(10) Cowboys Marlin Jackson CB Michigan
Dallas needs a shutdown corner. Jackson's speed and physical style of play will immediately upgrade its defense.
(11) Saints Shaun Cody DT USC
A poor defensive team against both the run and pass will be immediately upgraded with Cody's size, speed, and toughness.
(12) Texans Alex Barron T Florida St.
Barron would protect QB David Carr, who has taken a beating this season.
(13) Chiefs Jamaal Brimmer S UNLV
Brimmer is a tough, hard-hitting, big-playmaking safety who will make an immediate impact in the Chiefs' secondary.
(14) Lions Elton Brown G Va.
Brown is a dominant force on the offensive line and will be a reward for Kevin Jones in his second season.
(15) Buccaneers Jammal Brown T Oklahoma
Brown is huge with outstanding blocking skills. He'll be an immediate upgrade to a struggling offensive line.
(16) Bengals Dan Cody DE Oklahoma
Cody has the size, speed, and toughness Marvin Lewis will be looking for.
(17) Rams Antonio Perkins CB Oklahoma
Perkins is an experienced shutdown corner with outstanding speed and skills.
(18) Panthers Corey Webster CB LSU
Webster is the tough, athletic, hard-hitting corner the Panthers need.
(19) Vikings Barrett Ruud ILB Nebraska
Ruud is the big, fast, hard-hitting defender the Vikings need.
(20) Seahawks Marcus Spears DE LSU
Spears will add speed and power up front for a defense that lacks physical play.
(21) Jaguars Matt Roth DE Iowa
Roth has the size, skills, and playmaking ability to make an immediate impact.
(22) Cowboys Vince Carter C Oklahoma
(from Buffalo) Carter will be a force on the front line with his size and blocking ability.
(23) Broncos Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
Brown is the type of big, nonstop runner Mike Shanahan loves to have in his backfield.
(24) Ravens Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
Edwards is a big playmaker with size, speed, and athleticism.
(25) Packers Antwaun Rogers CB Purdue
Rodgers is a big playmaking corner with experience who'll give the Packers the weapon they have been missing since they lost Mike McKenzie.
(26) Jets Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma
Nicholson is a punishing hitter who excels both in run support and coverage.
(27) Falcons Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
Clayton would give Michael Vick another big target opposite Peerless Price.
(28) Chargers Adam Terry T Syracuse
Terry has the wingspan to ride off rushers and the blocking skills to open holes for LT.
(29) Colts Jonathan Babineaux DT Iowa
Babineaux, who has excellent pass-rush skills and speed, is the big stopper the Colts' defense needs.
(30) Eagles Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wis.
Hawthorne, who has the strength and size to be a run stopper, can be an unblockable force.
(31) Steelers D'Brickashaw Ferguson* T Va.
Ferguson, a junior, could make an immediate impact if he enters the draft. He is an exceptional athlete with an enormous wingspan and the frame to add bulk.
(32) Patriots Dustin Fox S Ohio St.
Fox is an aggressive, open-field tackler who can play both corner and safety -- a perfect fit for the Patriots.
 

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I don't care how many bad moves Bill (& Jerry) made this offseason, I just don't see them having a C rated higher than one of the Top 2 WR. There just seems no way possible that (according to this "mockery of a mock draft) they would pass on Edwards, Clayton, or Hawthorne for a C. Now, if he "mock" was truly indicative of where people actually would get picked, I could "possibly" see Ferguson getting picked there, but not a C.
 

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I can not see them taking another center, at least not with a 1st.

And I was thinking BP commented that he would not take another CB (shutdown) with a high pick...or something along those lines.
 

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Yeah insane draft. several picks that just aren't likely. Make you wonder if they bothered looking at a needs page first.

We aren't taking a C in the first or probably even first day, unless someone really slips and becomes a bigtime bargain.
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
I can not see them taking another center, at least not with a 1st.

And I was thinking BP commented that he would not take another CB (shutdown) with a high pick...or something along those lines.

Yep, BP stated that with the new rules, there's basically no such thing as a shutdown corner anymore. I'd have to agree with him to be honest. No contact after five yards is a tough thing for a DB to do especially when they've been taught the opposite pretty much their entire careers. The rule's always been in place, just not enforced unfortuantely.

Plus we'd investing our last three first round picks on DB's, all top ten picks no less. And I think Frazier has done a pretty solid job for being a rookie. He could develop into a pretty steady #2 CB with some more seasoning.

Burnett is the biggest reach on this though he does have some upside. He'll go 'teens at best when all is said and done I think. I'd also have to shoot myself if we passed over Braylon Edwards to draft a center when we have a pretty decent one already in place.

What has Anttaj Hawthorne done to piss people off so much? He'd be an excellent pickup in the bottom half of the round. In fact, I think I think he'd be a pretty darn good pick in the low 20's when our Bills' pick comes up.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson - if this guy comes out, he'll go top ten easy. Reminds me a lot of Bryant McKinnie in the sense that they are both considered possibly the best talent in the draft but will likely not be picked as such.

Little surprised that Erasmus James is missing from this mock.

I really, really would love to see us trade down this draft and nab another first rounder, especially if Marlin Jackson is the BPA available. I think we need new blood desperately and want to see us fill as many holes as possible.

April's only four months away... :p
 

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Let me get this straight. We pass on Edwards, letting the Ravens pick him up while we add another center?

:banghead:
 

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Be a little wary of any mock that has nothing but players from the power teams in the big four conferences. This draft has the kid from UNLV, but every other pick falls into that category.

It seems as though they make selections based on name recognition for the occasional fan rather than attempting to accurately forecast the correct order.
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
Be a little wary of any mock that has nothing but players from the power teams in the big four conferences. This draft has the kid from UNLV, but every other pick falls into that category.

It seems as though they make selections based on name recognition for the occasional fan rather than attempting to accurately forecast the correct order.

Name recognition was lacking in last years draft, but it did work out for us.

"You guys like anchovies? I LOVE anchovies, sometimes I get a whole pizza with nothing but anchovies... 'Cause they're GOOD!...... Wait a minute... you guys aren't from the pizza place!"
 

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StanleySpadowski said:
Be a little wary of any mock that has nothing but players from the power teams in the big four conferences. This draft has the kid from UNLV, but every other pick falls into that category.

It seems as though they make selections based on name recognition for the occasional fan rather than attempting to accurately forecast the correct order.

Brimmer ain't going #13, that's for sure. He's a round two type guy, won't sneak into the first especially with the Pats, Eagles and Steelers all having good safetys already.

Mocks change so much over time that they are about impossible to put any stock in at the moment. I remember a mock draft a year ago that was halfway through the college season and Matt Ware of UCLA the #4 overall pick. He ended up going to the Eagles in round 3 (guy I liked though).

A lot of it will depend on what underclassmen decide to come out too.
 

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Burnett is a great LB but had a major knee injury and that will scare people out of taking him in the first IMO.
Pollack lacks athleticism and wont' go that high
Mike Williams will go higher
Rolle and Barron will go higher
Edwards will go higher
Brimmer will go lower
and why in the h*#! would we take a C when we just drafted one two years ago and he's turning out to be pretty darn good. This and it would mean that we passed on Barron at RT, our biggest need OL position or Baas at OG, our second OL need. Silly.

I know there were some players left off of that too but i just can't think of all their names right now.....Brooks, Carlos Rogers, Terrency Murphy?
 

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Jerry and Bill have both stated that they wont draft a Cb again early and then they add center where Al Johnson was very solid in his first action after a year of rehab????

These guys need a kick in the pants.

Had I paid them to see this the hatemails would never stop. LOL.

I think Dallas would take Antajj Hawthorne and Braylon Edwards if those picks are available as suggested here.
 

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These guys get paid for this Mock draft?

This is one of the worst mock drafts on the internet. Hmmmm.... We pass on a WR or DT and draft a center? Too funny
 

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They got rid of the suggestion of our going for a C and are going w/ a T now

Mock Draft

* - underclassman
MOCK DRAFT: ROUND 1
PICK TEAM PLAYER POS SCHOOL

1 (1) 49ers Aaron Rodgers* QB Cal.
The 49ers must rebuild, and Rodgers would be the right way to start if he enters the '05 draft. Rodgers, a junior, has made excellent progress in his development, and most NFL scouts say he is ready to make the move.
2 (2) Browns Derrick Johnson OLB Texas
Johnson, an all-around solid linebacker, is a Ray Lewis-type of defender and seems to be near the ball on every play.
3 (3) Dolphins Cedric Benson RB Texas Benson, who is as good as they come, is a physical back with speed, size and a nonstop motor.
4 (4) Titans David Pollack DE Georgia
Pollack is big, physical and powerful. He'll be a dominant NFL player because of his size, speed and relentless pursuit.
5 (5) Chargers Antrel Rolle CB Miami (FL)
(from NY Giants) Rolle is an outstanding shutdown corner with the size, speed and skills to change games.
6 (6) Cardinals Matt Leinart* QB USC
Leinart, the Heisman winner as a junior, has not decided whether to enter the 2005 draft. If he does, he could fit just right in the Cardinals' offense.
7 (7) Raiders Carnell Williams RB Auburn
Williams runs with speed and power; the Raiders need this type of playmaking workhorse in their backfield.
8 (8) Bears Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
The Bears need a go-to receiver; Edwards is a big-time playmaker with skills, size and speed.
9 (9) Cowboys Marlin Jackson CB Michigan
Jackson would immediately upgrade Dallas' defense, which needs a shutdown corner.
10 (10) Commanders Erasmus James DE Wis. James is a powerful and athletic player who never gives up. He excels at pass rushing and tackling.
11 (11) Lions Kevin Burnett OLB Tennessee
Burnett has great speed and athletic ability. He is a dangerous presence because of his nonstop motor, tackling skills and knack for big plays.
12 (12) Buccaneers Alex Barron T Florida St.
Barron has the size, strength and athleticism to dominate the line of scrimmage.
13 (13) Saints Shaun Cody DT USC Cody creates matchup problems on the line because of his quickness and size. He'll immediately upgrade the Saints' defense against both the run and the pass.
14 (14) Texans Dan Cody DE Oklahoma Cody is tough, physical and speedy, and he knows what it takes to win. He'll bring the right attitude to the Texans' defense.
15 (15) Rams Antonio Perkins CB Oklahoma
Perkins is just what the Rams need -- an experienced shutdown corner with outstanding speed and skills. He is also a standout special teams player.
16 (16) Bengals Jamaal Brimmer S UNLV
Brimmer is a tough, hard-hitting, big-playmaking safety who would make an immediate impact in the Bengals' secondary.
17 (17) Chiefs Corey Webster CB LSU
Webster is fast and hard-hitting; he'll bring playmaking skills and a tough attitude to the Chiefs' secondary.
18 (18) Panthers Elton Brown G Va.
Brown, a dominant force, would blast open holes for Stephen Davis and DeShaun Foster.
19 (19) Seahawks Matt Roth DE Iowa
Roth's physical, nonstop style would bring fire to a defense that has lacked intensity.
20 (20) Broncos Ronnie Brown RB Auburn
Brown, a big playmaker who never gives up, is the type of runner Mike Shanahan loves to have in his backfield.
21 (21) Vikings Barrett Ruud ILB Nebraska
The Vikings sorely need a linebacker like Ruud, who has size and speed and is a hard-hitting tackler.
22 (22) Packers Antwaun Rogers CB Purdue
Rogers, a big, experienced playmaker, would give the Packers the edge they have missed since they traded Mike McKenzie.
23 (23) Cowboys Jammal Brown T Oklahoma
(from Buffalo) Brown is an athletic giant with outstanding blocking skills. He would be just the right addition for the Cowboys' young defense.
24 (24) Jaguars Mike Williams* WR USC
If Williams lasts this long, the Jags will jump at the chance to draft him. With his size and playmaking ability, he would be a crucial target in Jacksonville's offense.
25 (25) Ravens Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
Clayton does everything well -- run, jump, catch and even block. He would be a perfect target for Ravens QB Kyle Boller.
26 (26) Jets Donte Nicholson S Oklahoma
Nicholson is a punishing hitter who excels in run support and in coverage.
27 (27) Falcons Vince Carter C Oklahoma
Carter is a big, powerful center who could give Falcons QB Michael Vick protection and room to roam.
28 (28) Chargers Adam Terry T Syracuse
Terry has the wingspan to ride off rushers and the blocking skills to open holes for LaDainian Tomlinson.
29 (29) Colts Jonathan Babineaux DT Iowa
The Colts' defense needs a big stopper like Babineaux, who has speed and excellent pass-rush skills.
30 (30) Eagles Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wis.
Hawthorne, who has the strength and size to be a run stopper, is an unblockable force when rushing.
31 (31) Steelers D'Brickashaw Ferguson* T Va.
Ferguson, a junior, could make an immediate impact if he decides to enter the draft. He's an exceptional athlete with an enormous wingspan and the frame to add bulk.
32 (32) Patriots Dustin Fox S Ohio St.
Fox is an aggressive, open-field tackler who can play both corner and safety -- a perfect fit for the Patriots.
 

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Thanks for the mock draft update. . . but that its still crazy. He has "outstanding blocking skills" and would be "just the right addition for the Cowboys' young defense" That doesn't make sense.

This is the mock draft that I've been looking at for the last few years if ya'll would like another opinion. . . These guys really do their homework. . .

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Here's a highlight:

10. Dallas Cowboys: Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami (FL)

After letting Mario Edwards leave as a free agent the team was relying on the essentially unproven and untested Pete Hunter to start opposite Terence Newman, but Hunter was lost for the season with an injury and that combined with Newman's drop-off in play has left Dallas in dire straights in pass defense, seemingly unable to cover anyone. While not an elite, shutdown corner prospect in the same mold as guys like Deion Sanders, Charles Woodson or Champ Bailey, Rolle is right there in the next group and could have a career similar to that of a guy like Chris McAlister. Adding another playmaker like Rolle would give Dallas one of the premier young secondaries in the league and if they choose they could even stick Rolle at free safety next to Roy Williams, which would be an impressive duo indeed. Finding this guy on the board when it is their turn to pick would have to be a dream scenario for the Cowboys. The other direction the team could go is the defensive line since they have major needs at both end as well as tackle so you certainly can't rule out names like Erasmus James, Travis Johnson of Florida St. and Rodrique Wright of Texas since they have little or nothing next to La'Roi Glover and Marcellus Wiley has been a major disappointment after being brought in as a free agent. One final option would be for Dallas to surprise and nab a premier wide receiver like Braylon Edwards since Keyshawn Johnson isn't much of a big play threat and Terry Glenn is getting up there in years. In the end though the decision to take Rolle if he is available would have to qualify as a no-brainer.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I was wondering that as well.

Kchunda's post above has a draft where he is #16 to the texans. BUt I don't know why he's not listed on the original posted draft. Gotta make you wonder.
 
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