Was this really Jerry/Stephen's draft?

[mkindred]

I remember last year JG saying something to the effect that the draft room would heavily rely on the reports from the scouting department and he would be involved in all decisions on draft day. Does that same story hold true for this past draft? The reason I ask, looking at the "type" of players we've drafted the past two years doesn't appear to be the stereotypical "Jerry picks". If that is true, A) Why are people blaming Jerry for this draft? and B) Why are people not having faith in the ... dare I say, process, that JG is trying to incorporate across the organization that dips down into the scouting department?

 

[iceberg]

I remember last year JG saying something to the effect that the draft room would heavily rely on the reports from the scouting department and he would be involved in all decisions on draft day. Does that same story hold true for this past draft? The reason I ask, looking at the "type" of players we've drafted the past two years doesn't appear to be the stereotypical "Jerry picks". If that is true, A) Why are people blaming Jerry for this draft? and B) Why are people not having faith in the ... dare I say, process, that JG is trying to incorporate across the organization that dips down into the scouting department?

because we have (2) different kinds of head banging emotes and they must get used thousands of times a day.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't see this as a "Jerry" draft at all.

It has a "Garrett" imprint all over it with the types of players chosen, especially after the first pick went down.

Read all the descriptions...

All the guys chosen are hard-working types who go 100% of the time and don't take plays off.

There are no "Poes" or "Coples" here.

 

[theogt]

These guys were all height/weight/speed guys that had very good or okay production in college. These aren't any person's "type" of pick -- they're just good picks.

 

[Plankton]

I remember last year JG saying something to the effect that the draft room would heavily rely on the reports from the scouting department and he would be involved in all decisions on draft day. Does that same story hold true for this past draft? The reason I ask, looking at the "type" of players we've drafted the past two years doesn't appear to be the stereotypical "Jerry picks". If that is true, A) Why are people blaming Jerry for this draft? and B) Why are people not having faith in the ... dare I say, process, that JG is trying to incorporate across the organization that dips down into the scouting department?

This was a Cowboy draft. A draft that followed the philsophy of Jason Garrett.

 

[CowboyChris]

the trade up for Claibourne has Jerry written all over it, after that its pretty much Garrett/Ryan...Garrett for their character and motor, and Ryan for positional needs

 

[mkindred]

These guys were all height/weight/speed guys that had very good or okay production in college. These aren't any person's "type" of pick -- they're just good picks.

I agree with your assessment and I believe you may have took what I said out of context (that or my point didn't get across well?). I keep seeing comments like "Matt Johnson is this years AOA" etc. I believe the last two drafts we've done a better job than years past sticking to our draft board; however, fans are still criticizing Jerry and they say they have no faith in his picks based on his history for poor draft classes. The culture here has changed since JG took over and it was evident this past weekend with our draft selections which is the point I was trying to make.

 

[5Stars]

the trade up for Claibourne has Jerry written all over it, after that its pretty much Garrett/Ryan...Garrett for their character and motor, and Ryan for positional needs

Yeah, it was all Jerry! That's why the whole war room was hand clapping and giving high fives all around.

Jerry must have done a good job...


:shades:

 

[CCBoy]

There is some good old fashioned oldschool processes going on here. It is more of a process with direction, rather than outside influences to actions.

Just for perspective, as little pictures were drawn by us on site during the off season, as to real considerations going on...

With each touchdown pass thrown by Tony Romo to Laurent Robinson last season, the chances of retaining diminished. The Cowboys knew the odds of them retaining Robinson decreased with each touchdown.

In Dallas, Robinson was in effect, locked into a third receiver role. Half a dozen teams reportedly inquired as to the services of Robinson.

Robinson signed a five year, $32.5 M contract to be a starter for the Jacksonville Jaguars. A financial limit was set upon the retentionof Robinson, by Dallas, and this was exceeded by $2 M a season by Jacksonville.

The reason for this? The cap space and available funds had to be spread around for more than just the space occupied by Robinson.

But in the iterim, players such as Andre Holmes, Dwayne Harris, and newly drafted Danny Coale will get an unusal opportunity to win that very same position.

 

[cowboy_ron]

I don't see this as a "Jerry" draft at all.

It has a "Garrett" imprint all over it with the types of players chosen, especially after the first pick went down.

Read all the descriptions...

All the guys chosen are hard-working types who go 100% of the time and don't take plays off.

There are no "Poes" or "Coples" here.

 

[Hostile]

A while back I posted a thread about how talent is evaluated and how teams draft. All teams, not just Dallas. if the points made in that post are not crystal clear now, then they never will be.

The teams draft according the coach's vision and the scout's analysis, and then the team's comparative discussion to reach a list from which their Draft board evolves.

Every claim I made in that post was evident during this Draft. We need a Head Coach with a strong personnel touch and Jason Garrett has that. We are in great hands.

 

[Risen Star]

People blame Jerry because the Cowboys operated this past draft without a legitimate GM or Director of Personnel to lead the process. Leaving us to hope the head coach can wear three hats and has the ear of the ultimate decision maker.

I have no doubt Jerry listens to his head coach. That doesn't make it right for him to sit in that seat. Same goes for the guy to his left.

 

[5Stars]

People blame Jerry because the Cowboys operated this past draft without a legitimate GM or Director of Personnel to lead the process. Leaving us to hope the head coach can wear three hats and has the ear of the ultimate decision maker.

I have no doubt Jerry listens to his head coach. That doesn't make it right for him to sit in that seat. Same goes for the guy to his left.

OMG! Like a friggen broken record!

WE GET IT! You don't like Jerry or his family, OK!

You make some good posts sometime, then, you come out with this crap.

GET OVER IT! Jerry and his family are not going anywhere! Maybe you should...




You must be BBgun's brother or something, or maybe Judas's husband?

 

[Risen Star]

OMG! Like a friggen broken record!

WE GET IT! You don't like Jerry or his family, OK!

You make some good posts sometime, then, you come out with this crap.

GET OVER IT! Jerry and his family are not going anywhere! Maybe you should...

He asked. I answered. My response isn't any more redundant than the post above mine. You just don't like the message of mine.

 

[5Stars]

He asked. I answered. My response isn't any more redundant than the post above mine. You just don't like the message of mine.

The problem is, the post above yours, Hostile's post, is what is happening!

You said it yourself! Jerry listens to Garrett. And then you say, that is not right?

I give up...

Carry on...

 

[CCBoy]

He asked. I answered. My response isn't any more redundant than the post above mine. You just don't like the message of mine.

Just think, if you collected Mickey Guilley steins they would run about $10 apiece...now old beer cans would still run at about $5.

 

[mkindred]

People blame Jerry because the Cowboys operated this past draft without a legitimate GM or Director of Personnel to lead the process. Leaving us to hope the head coach can wear three hats and has the ear of the ultimate decision maker.

I have no doubt Jerry listens to his head coach. That doesn't make it right for him to sit in that seat. Same goes for the guy to his left.

I might disagree with 90% of what you say but I can respect you for having your difference of opinion without going completely dramatic and over the top. With that said, if the GM begins following the draft board, I would argue that JG is wearing three hats. At most Garrett is wearing two hats, the HC and facilitator aka telling Jerry to listen to the scouting experts on his payroll.

 

[cbow44]

I thought it was Stephen that laid all the ground work for the trade. Then took the call, stood tall and made the trade.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Ah think it was a Ryan draft pretty much.

Fat Ryan staged a hissy fit and demanded we go totally on defense.

And Jason being the practical and calculating guy, went along with it.

Ah think the Matt Johnson thing was Jerra trying to get a hobbitt out of a trap but ah think this year the old man pulled out a fantastic athlete and we shall see.


Ah like this draft! And ah am thankful.

 

[5Stars]

I thought it was Stephen that laid all the ground work for the trade. Then took the call, stood tall and made the trade.

That is what most likely what went down. Stephen handles the money, Garrett or Ryan wanted this guy, and Jerry or Stephen made the call.

It's not a one man show that some cannot get through their heads.