Watch Dez's power

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Makes you wonder why it took them til week 10 to start getting him on some drag/pick plays. He is a handful in the open field.
 

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Any gifs of Randle dominating these scrubs with his power?
 

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And you claim not to be a Dez hater.

I'm not!!

Since we were all sitting around tugging our peckers at Cowboys who dominated inferior competition, I thought we might aswell tug a little on everybody who feasted on the weak! How is that hating. I'm spreading love to all the players!
 

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Hrm, After watching http://instagram.com/p/vMxYQRR7Zt/ I'm wondering if the link I posted is not sped up or frames are missing to make it seem faster than it really is. I had no idea.

At 16.67 fps, it's sped up. Source is Fox, so 720p, so 59.997 fps. Looks like they're chopping out every 4 frames, so it's playing 59.997 fps video at 66.68 fps. It's not intentional, it's a limitation of the gif standard with frame rates having to be in multiples of 100ms (6*16.67 ~= 100), not something more convenient like 1000ms.

tl;dr: Commenting on the gif alone, the gif is 11.14% faster than the source video. Not going to bother looking at the instagram video, I don't have to procrastinate that bad.
 

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Not to get all technical, but 720p is encoded at a frame rate of 29.97 fps.

That's 1080i. Technical would be getting 1080i@29.97 mixed up with 720p@59.940 = 59.997, which I did.
 

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That's 1080i. Technical would be getting 1080i@29.97 mixed up with 720p@59.940 = 59.997, which I did.

That's incorrect. Progressively scanned video encodes at a frame rate of 29.97. Interlaced video encodes at 59.94 fields per second.
 

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That's incorrect. Progressively scanned video encodes at a frame rate of 29.97. Interlaced video encodes at 59.94 fields per second.

I'm too lazy to source wiki, but not lazy enough to source mediainfo (right-click, copy/paste):

From my capture of the game:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : D:\Temp\Manual Recordings\2014.w10.dal.at.jax.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 21.7 GiB
Duration : 3h 31mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 14.6 Mbps
Movie name : NFL on FOX
Law rating : None

Video
ID : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 3h 31mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 13.3 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 38.8 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Active Format Description : Letterbox 16:9 image
Frame rate : 59.940 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.240
Stream size : 19.7 GiB (91%)
 

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I'm too lazy to source wiki, but not lazy enough to source mediainfo (right-click, copy/paste):

From my capture of the game:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : D:\Temp\Manual Recordings\2014.w10.dal.at.jax.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 21.7 GiB
Duration : 3h 31mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 14.6 Mbps
Movie name : NFL on FOX
Law rating : None

Video
ID : 49 (0x31)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 3h 31mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 13.3 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 38.8 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Active Format Description : Letterbox 16:9 image
Frame rate : 59.940 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.240
Stream size : 19.7 GiB (91%)

That may be how you captured it, and how your service provider (be it cable or DirecTV) retransmits it at, but 720p encodes at 29.97 frames per second (NTSC standard is 30 fps). Fox broadcasts at 720p. The concept of 59.94 is not a frame rate, since NTSC is based on video encoding at a rate of 30 fps (more properly, 29.97 fps). Interlaced video, most commonly seen as 1080i, sends the odd field and even field separately, not simultaneously. Since this is broken down to 1/2 frame, it's listed as 59.94, which is reflective of fields per second, not frames. Trust me on this - I work in the business, and have worked on broadcast transmission paths for the last 8 years.
 

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Where the hell was that against the freaking skins 10 man blitzes?

We run that play just one time against the skins and we are sitting here at 8-2.:mad:
 

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That may be how you captured it, and how your service provider (be it cable or DirecTV) retransmits it at, but 720p encodes at 29.97 frames per second (NTSC standard is 30 fps). Fox broadcasts at 720p. The concept of 59.94 is not a frame rate, since NTSC is based on video encoding at a rate of 30 fps (more properly, 29.97 fps). Interlaced video, most commonly seen as 1080i, sends the odd field and even field separately, not simultaneously. Since this is broken down to 1/2 frame, it's listed as 59.94, which is reflective of fields per second, not frames. Trust me on this - I work in the business, and have worked on broadcast transmission paths for the last 8 years.

Yeah, I'm already aware of fields vs frames. 720p60 and 1080i30 have roughly the same bandwidth needed for broadcasts because it's 29.97 frames per second/59.94 interlaced fields per second at a bigger picture vs 59.94 full frames per second at a smaller picture. I see where you've based your thinking that it has to be at 29.97 fps, though. You're only thinking in terms of NTSC for some reason, which only supports 29.97 fps interlaced video (480i30), thinking the 720 I'm referring to is the 720x480 resolution of 480i.

This is not NTSC (SD), it's HD or 8/16VSB (ATSC) or QAM or the European standard that ends with a T (in my case, clearQAM/256-qam (in the mediainfo I posted, it's that 38.8 Mbps max bitrate, that means it can only be 256 QAM or 16VSB)), which supports video with multiple frame rates. Source: When things went wrong for me, I had to figure it out and didn't know where to look, leading me to read a lot of stuff about everything.

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