WCO vs Air Coryell Nomenclature

[Ken]

Are they definitely changing to McCarthy's playbook nomenclature or will they convert McCarthy's playbook to the same nomenclature that Dak already knows?

I think changing nomenclature to adapt to another system is not ideal. Just pull the band aid off and implement your system how you know how to implement it.

If there are things from the old system that Dak does well...then find how you can do those things in your system.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I think changing nomenclature to adapt to another system is not ideal. Just pull the band aid off and implement your system how you know how to implement it.

If there are things from the old system that Dak does well...then find how you can do those things in your system.

It wont be the exact system as he does not have the same players, you are correct on what will happen, he will take what this teams players do well and use them in matchups...MM is known as a matchup guy uses shceme to get matchups he wants even in the run game. You will see them use the defensive front 7 movement against them more in this run game.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Dan Fouts not walking thru those doors at Valley Ranch.

 

[xwalker]

That is a good question and one I’ve been searching for an answer about too. I haven’t seen any report clarifying what verbiage will be used.

I should have used the term verbiage. It appears some people don't know the meaning of nomenclature.

 

[glimmerman]

If this team comes out in rhythm and different we will win a lot of games until other teams have tape to study. The 2016 team was hard to beat but we will need a better O-Line. Or better coached. A run game and quick passes, then that deadly play action. Win a lot of games. Mix it up.

 

[Aven8]

When you have a weapon like Pollard, I have no idea why they made little to no attempt to get him the ball in space. Would it have killed anyone to have a screen pass in the playbook?

Or even Turpin from time to time! I mean a simple WR screen to him or he dashing across the shallow zone across the field? Not once. In PS he did and than gave up. Moore was just like his predecessors. He never let anyone else play unless they were the starters. That’s why we never saw Malik in the playoff game with one carry etc. meanwhile Philly is playing this weekend with Sanders, Boston Scott, and Gainwell all getting plenty of carries ………

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

When was Prescott at his best. I think that’s the big question. In my opinion, it was the dink dunk methodical style. Do we have the tight end. Capable of running this type of offense. The running back needed,
is it the scheme, or the players that fit the scheme. That’s been the issue for this franchise for quite some time. They choose a scheme, but don’t have the players that fit it.

Do we have the offensive line to help setup a consistent running game that can be potent even when teams stack the box?

 

[shabazz]

I should have used the term verbiage. It appears some people don't know the meaning of nomenclature.

Good thing you didn’t use vernacular too

 

[buybuydandavis]

We will see how this goes. The hardest thing to do is hit a wr in stride and the shorter the distance the more emphasis is on the QB's aim as the wr has less time to adjust to the ball. We have all seen those passes where the ball is thrown a little too much behind the receiver, those will become way more dangerous in the tighter coverages they will begin to draw.

Even when playing well, Dak would be relatively weak at the short passing game, particularly to the RBs, hitting them line of sight center of body instead of putting the ball out in front of them so they could hands catch in stride.

 

[nalam]

Or even Turpin from time to time! I mean a simple WR screen to him or he dashing across the shallow zone across the field? Not once. In PS he did and than gave up. Moore was just like his predecessors. He never let anyone else play unless they were the starters. That’s why we never saw Malik in the playoff game with one carry etc. meanwhile Philly is playing this weekend with Sanders, Boston Scott, and Gainwell all getting plenty of carries ………

When was the last time we ran a successful screen play ?

 

[charron]

Even when playing well, Dak would be relatively weak at the short passing game, particularly to the RBs, hitting them line of sight center of body instead of putting the ball out in front of them so they could hands catch in stride.

Thats what has me worried. Maybe they will actually practice this stuff. Maybe dak will get some pre season game action to see if this works. Or they wing it again.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I’m guessing we run the same offense but with different rules on routes.

It’s all a guess but I think they want to simplify and not make Dak think as much.

Dak’s never been a guy to hit a player out of his break. He’s a see open then throw kinda QB so I think they want make his reads a little quicker instead of guessing what his target will do.


I personally would like to see the RBs thrown to a lot more. I don’t know how many times Dak missed easy check downs this year to RBs.

All of this after film showing Dak hitting receivers out of their break.

Go to the 8:56 mark of the video.



Boom! What were you saying?

 

[khiladi]

I’m guessing we run the same offense but with different rules on routes.

It’s all a guess but I think they want to simplify and not make Dak think as much.

Dak’s never been a guy to hit a player out of his break. He’s a see open then throw kinda QB so I think they want make his reads a little quicker instead of guessing what his target will do.


I personally would like to see the RBs thrown to a lot more. I don’t know how many times Dak missed easy check downs this year to RBs.

People just make things up. Dak in MOORE’s offense is essentially the Dak we see in college, except the guy took advantage of his size and weak college defenses running.

His throws are long developing, seeing his WRs open.

Watch this and tell me we are witnessing any to my significant different between what Moore called for him and what we saw then.

 

[khiladi]

This is what Diante Lee in Sturm’s interview if him in the Atlantic said just a few days ago in an article on “what went wrong with Kellen MOORE’s offense and what now?”

Lee: 100 percent. To the “Dak” part of this whole thing? This feels like we’re talking about Philip Rivers all over again — you have a quarterback who obviously is in the top 25 percentile of quarterbacks in the NFL, if not higher, and you’re almost never going to have a bad offense, as long as he is the signal caller. But you can also watch games like against the 49ers and you see he’s missing certain throws and you have the turnovers. There are certain kinds of hangups in his game — when things don’t go well — that are glaring in ways that make you feel dissatisfied, even if the whole picture tells you, this is a quarterback who can certainly lead you to being a contender in the NFL year over year.

I believe when you look at Dak’s style of play is that the things that are going to drive you crazy will always drive you crazy because they’re kind of inherent to the way that he approaches the position. He is going to take chances in tight windows, especially in big games, that’s just the way that he approaches things. You’re going to have games when you might feel like he didn’t tuck and run enough against teams that are really dropping deep into coverage or playing a lot of soft zones or have a great pass rush where he’s going to be moved in the pocket. That is just kind of inherent to the way he plays the position. I think that those are the kinds of things that you got to make peace with. Back to the point: If Prescott was the one that was a free agent and parted ways with the organization, he would immediately reset the quarterback market because he’s a good enough quarterback to exist in the marketplace in that way.

But when you watch games against the best opponents, you look and see those throws continue to come up as an issue or that kind of pocket navigation continues to be an issue or how he reacts to pressure. There’s the same kind of issue now that it was at whatever other point in his career and I think that you’ve kind of got to make peace with the fact that a guy like Prescott is good enough to win a Super Bowl when all the pieces are around him, and when things break his way. But I don’t know if you can say definitively that he’s in that 99th percentile of quarterbacks that when things are going wrong for your team, he can be the one to dig you out of the hole time and time again. It’s an odd conundrum to be in as a fan knowing that you have a good quarterback but maybe not feeling like it through the force of his own play. He can raise you that tier from good to elite Super Bowl-worthy type.

Of course this guy went wild with his comparison to Rivers and any NFL QB, if they have the pieces around them and everything went right could win a SB, but we’ve been telling you this for ages.

Dude is a mental midget that doesn’t know when to tuck and run, bad pocket presence, has these inherent weaknesses that consistently rest their ugly head and won’t go away.

 

[Aven8]

When was the last time we ran a successful screen play ?

Zeke in Pittsburgh! Lol

 

[Whirlwin]

Do we have the offensive line to help setup a consistent running game that can be potent even when teams stack the box?

Exactly what I’m saying. Choose a scheme without the players to fit it.

 

[CATCH17]

People just make things up. Dak in MOORE’s offense is essentially the Dak we see in college, except the guy took advantage of his size and weak college defenses running.

His throws are long developing, seeing his WRs open.

Watch this and tell me we are witnessing any to my significant different between what Moore called for him and what we saw then.

If Dak could still run I do think he’d be a much better player than he is.

But he’s a mediocre talent as a pocket passer and he doesn’t move around much.

 

[blueblood70]

When was Prescott at his best. I think that’s the big question. In my opinion, it was the dink dunk methodical style. Do we have the tight end. Capable of running this type of offense. The running back needed,
is it the scheme, or the players that fit the scheme. That’s been the issue for this franchise for quite some time. They choose a scheme, but don’t have the players that fit it.

what type of issue? fans are the one claiming big issues facts

since 2016 Dak has 61 wins in the regular a season that 5th in the league behind Brady 79, rogers 67, Mahomes 64(done it in shorter time period drafted in 17 didn't pay until 18??, and Rwilson 62

Not sure why fans keep believing that player with that many wins an a 67% compl% also high in the league, 165tds ONLY 65INTs 26 rushing tds is an issue? the haters want his released or traded and dont say payoffs afetr 97 games Dak shares nearly the exact same playoff record as Pmanning and Manning has less total tds and twice the INTs in the RS in the same first 97 games..

fans just need to stop thinking we can easily just do better.

yes a better offense will help in the long run ie stronger run game, more physical OL, and a better play caller for the better team in the playoffs.

But come on Dak is our qb, his career says we can get to a SB with him IF, a BIG IF, the team shows up and helps out in the playoff games. can have the TEAM have 14 penalties and no run game in b2b games against the 9ers ,yes his 2 INts hurt us one is half on Gallup for allowing himself to be shoved off his route and cut under him with no effort to fight back to at least break that up.

2016 and 2018 all on the defense. so technically dak has one poor showing 2022 in a playoff game and now hes the issue?? he dint fail on his own again NO RUN GAM, OL getting pushed back all game, outside of CD no ones was playing well ie Schultz 2 mental mistakes on the 3min drive.

been to the payoff 4 of 6 season's hes been healthy and no losing season. right, he sucks cut him now eat 89 mil or cut him in 24 and eat 40 if traded, eat whatever that number is .. sure makes sense we could be like the 18-20 y=teams still lookign for a QB that can be close to Dak., so hes not elite how many are? 1-3 in any given era?

the windows now with Dak 2 more seasons, if it doesn't work then time for major changes.

again, lets go play better as a team but even the D as great as they played if they want to be in the convo as say the 2k Raven D Diggs has to make those 2 plays.

 

[ESisback]

Somebody is going to have to learn new verbiage. It probably won’t be fat boy

Yeah, because if he’s fat, he won’t understand football! You must be really skinny, cause you’re so football savvy!

 

[JBS]

Yeah, because if he’s fat, he won’t understand football! You must be really skinny, cause you’re so football savvy!

Wow. I bet you thought this was funny. You are just funny looking. That’s all