We actually haven't fared that badly vs Brady

hitachi14

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Hey all, long time viewer but first time poster.

So regarding the title - hear me out. I know it's tempting to be like the media and only talk about Ws and Ls, but let's go through the matchups:

2003 - we were in NE. This is the first of their great SB teams (2001 luckbox team wasn't that great). We had a surprise year and made the playoffs, but were just an ok team, on the road vs a great team. The game was a defensive struggle, I think 6-0 or 9-0 for nearly the entire game. No issues with this loss at all.

2007 - we were at home, undefeated. NE also undefeated, and this was their 16-0 year with Moss where they started off by blowing out everyone they played, a lot think the best team ever. They did show cracks later in the year, and obviously lost the SB, but I think we were 5 point dogs at home for this one. I think we ended up losing by ~17 or so, but did have a second have lead at one point. Overall, I think we should have done better, but given how crazy good NE was at this point, not a terrible loss

2011 - again in NE, another one of their teams that went to the SB. I remember us having a lead very late in this one, and got unlucky to lose. Likely 5-7 point dogs

2015 - Romo got hurt this year, we sucked vs everyone, so throwing this one out.

2019 - again in NE, I think we had a drive at the end with a chance to win the game? Got a catch overturned on that drive.

2021 - in TB, obv had the lead very late and lost on the last second FG

2022 - by far the worst performance, can't excuse this one at all

So in summary:

3 games in NE where they never lose. Had a really good chance to win 2 of them.

1 game in TB. Had a great chance to win.

1 home loss without Romo, bad Cowboys team

1 home loss vs the crazy hot 07 pats

1 bad loss

Underdogs 7 times and lost 7 times, but overall fared better than expected in most. I know in the end we only care about Ws and Ls, but based on the above I wouldn't say Brady "owns" us.
 

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Hey all, long time viewer but first time poster.

So regarding the title - hear me out. I know it's tempting to be like the media and only talk about Ws and Ls, but let's go through the matchups:

2003 - we were in NE. This is the first of their great SB teams (2001 luckbox team wasn't that great). We had a surprise year and made the playoffs, but were just an ok team, on the road vs a great team. The game was a defensive struggle, I think 6-0 or 9-0 for nearly the entire game. No issues with this loss at all.

2007 - we were at home, undefeated. NE also undefeated, and this was their 16-0 year with Moss where they started off by blowing out everyone they played, a lot think the best team ever. They did show cracks later in the year, and obviously lost the SB, but I think we were 5 point dogs at home for this one. I think we ended up losing by ~17 or so, but did have a second have lead at one point. Overall, I think we should have done better, but given how crazy good NE was at this point, not a terrible loss

2011 - again in NE, another one of their teams that went to the SB. I remember us having a lead very late in this one, and got unlucky to lose. Likely 5-7 point dogs

2015 - Romo got hurt this year, we sucked vs everyone, so throwing this one out.

2019 - again in NE, I think we had a drive at the end with a chance to win the game? Got a catch overturned on that drive.

2021 - in TB, obv had the lead very late and lost on the last second FG

2022 - by far the worst performance, can't excuse this one at all

So in summary:

3 games in NE where they never lose. Had a really good chance to win 2 of them.

1 game in TB. Had a great chance to win.

1 home loss without Romo, bad Cowboys team

1 home loss vs the crazy hot 07 pats

1 bad loss

Underdogs 7 times and lost 7 times, but overall fared better than expected in most. I know in the end we only care about Ws and Ls, but based on the above I wouldn't say Brady "owns" us.
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Nice reach Mr. Fantastic. But the Victor von Doomers want to know...when does it become clobbering time?
 

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12, 48 (2007), 20, 30 (2015 year), 13, 31, 19

Twice under 15 points. (28.5%)
Four times 20 points or less (57.1%).

Then you have two over 30, and a near 50 burger.

So, statistically, the odds are that they'll score 20 or less (especially with the team they have this year).
 

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There is a very very long list of those who claim they "almost" beat Brady.

That's the whole point. They almost but they didn't.

They didn't because, somehow, Brady and/or the team he was with found a way to .are that last game deciding play.

That's why he is who he is.

I mean, the Cowboys can't win a championship game unless they have a double digit scoring margin. However, every Super Bowl loss was by 4 points or less.

Did you know that, until the Giants best the Bills in 1990 by one point, the three closest Super Bowls were the ones the Cowbiys lost in 1970, 1975, and 1978?

But not Tom and the Patriots. They win their first 3 Super Bowls all by 3 points.

Games that should have gone either way are always won by Tom Brady. He is the opposite of the Dallas Cowboys.

Yes it will always look as though the Ciwboys didn't "fare too bad" against Brady....unless it matters who won.
 

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I think the OP's point is the Cowboys have had chances. TB12 is not unbeatable - ask Eli Manning. The key is taking advantage of your opportunities.

It's looking like the Cowboys will have another chance to take advantage of their opportunities vs Brady. That's all you ask for in the playoffs, a chance.
 

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I totally agree.

0-7 vs Brady. EASILY coulda been 7-0. Just got a few unlucky bounces.

I think we DOMINATE against him this time, and only lose 21-24, which EASILY could have been yet another hypothetical win vs Brady, if not for the fact that they scored more points than us.

BUT,....if they HADN'T scored more points that us, I think we would have had a decent shot of winning.
 

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Fans can try softening the blow to try and ease the pain, but when you’re 0-7 against a QB you’ve fared badly against them.
 

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I'll put it another way. A lot of those games were supposed to be comfortable Pats wins, which we kept close. And we are 3-4 against the spread vs him. Rodgers I am not sure the ATS record, but we do have 3 losses as favorites, and 1 win as a dog.
 

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Hey all, long time viewer but first time poster.

So regarding the title - hear me out. I know it's tempting to be like the media and only talk about Ws and Ls, but let's go through the matchups:

2003 - we were in NE. This is the first of their great SB teams (2001 luckbox team wasn't that great). We had a surprise year and made the playoffs, but were just an ok team, on the road vs a great team. The game was a defensive struggle, I think 6-0 or 9-0 for nearly the entire game. No issues with this loss at all.

2007 - we were at home, undefeated. NE also undefeated, and this was their 16-0 year with Moss where they started off by blowing out everyone they played, a lot think the best team ever. They did show cracks later in the year, and obviously lost the SB, but I think we were 5 point dogs at home for this one. I think we ended up losing by ~17 or so, but did have a second have lead at one point. Overall, I think we should have done better, but given how crazy good NE was at this point, not a terrible loss

2011 - again in NE, another one of their teams that went to the SB. I remember us having a lead very late in this one, and got unlucky to lose. Likely 5-7 point dogs

2015 - Romo got hurt this year, we sucked vs everyone, so throwing this one out.

2019 - again in NE, I think we had a drive at the end with a chance to win the game? Got a catch overturned on that drive.

2021 - in TB, obv had the lead very late and lost on the last second FG

2022 - by far the worst performance, can't excuse this one at all

So in summary:

3 games in NE where they never lose. Had a really good chance to win 2 of them.

1 game in TB. Had a great chance to win.

1 home loss without Romo, bad Cowboys team

1 home loss vs the crazy hot 07 pats

1 bad loss

Underdogs 7 times and lost 7 times, but overall fared better than expected in most. I know in the end we only care about Ws and Ls, but based on the above I wouldn't say Brady "owns" us.
Welcome, and you fit right in here in CZ.:muttley:
 

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We have a better team than the Bucs so we should win. If our players get caught up in the "Brady mystique" and lose then they're a bunch of babies and don't deserve to win. If McCarthy loses to the "Brady mystique" then he deserves to be fired. That's loser talk. We have a better team than the Bucs, we have a better record than the Bucs and we played in a much better division. We're the better team. Everyone is talking about how scared we are of Brady. Did it cross anyone's mind that Brady might be scared to play a team with a winning record. He's been beating up on Seattle, Saints, Panthers. Not impressive. The Bucs team is not as good as us. If we lose cuz of an emotional block than we have a weak minded team that doesn't deserve to win.
 

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So we had a lot of moral victories?
That's what I gathered out of this. Of course, we have the ability to beat him as many teams have but will we? It shows me that over the course of 20 years and no matter the circumstance he finds a way. Let's hope it's different this time if we face him next week.
 
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