We didn't go down swinging

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I guess I'm still not over the loss. What bothers me most about it is we didn't go down swinging. The Seattle secondary was vulnerable, to say the least and we didn't go after them. And in general we weren't aggressive at important points in the game.

Before the game my thought was that I can deal with the Cowboys losing, but they should be aggressive, attack the Seahawks and give themselves a chance to win. If Romo throws 4 interceptions, fine, but you don't want to finish the game and feel like you left some ammo off the field.

A couple of examples that are illustrative of our approach in the game.

On our field goal drive in the 4th quarter, Jones had a six yard run to the Seattle 13, making it 2nd and 4. The score at this time was 17-13. A touchdown puts us up two scores and we very likely win the game, so that has to be given strong consideration. I believe in playing to win, not trying to hang around. 2nd and four is a good time for play-action, but we run Julius and gain three making it 3rd down and if I remember correctly about a foot.

Again, to me, a touchdown is huge here, a field goal is ok, but if you score a touchdown here you probably have a 90% chance to win, because it will take 2 scores to beat you. To me, there are two valid play calls here:

1. quarterback sneak - Romo can practically fall forward and get the first down. It's a conservative call, but a good call, because it's a very high percentage play for a first down when you have a short distance to go and even if you don't get it, you are probably even closer if you want to go on fourth, because you rarely lose yardage on QB sneaks.

2. Play action. It would be a big surprise and you'd have a chance at a touchdown.

Of course we hand off and get nowhere. Now anyone can play the 20/20 hindsight game and say it didn't work, therefore it was a bad play call. My point is that just by looking at the situation beforehand and not knowing what will happen, the handoff was the worst possible play call. If you want to just get the first down, a QB sneak does that and it's very unlikely you'll lose yardage. Any gain of yardage would pretty much get you the first down. If you want to be a little daring, then play action is the way to go. Running to a tail back is conservative and it also allows the defense time to penetrate and blow up the play. Bad call. The worst thing is we ended up kicking a field goal without ever attacking the endzone, when a touchdown pretty much ices the game.

Ok, next situation on our infamous drive, it's 1-10 on the Seattle 11 with Seattle leading 21-20. Again a field goal is good, but I would still be worried because a field goal by Seattle still gives them the game. I would want a touchdown. On first or second down I would have done some play action or a pass of some sort to at least attack the endzone. I know we wanted to run Seattle out of timeouts, but as it turned out they still would have had enough time for a drive. Had the 3rd down pass to Witten happened on second down, we would have had another chance to pick up the first or get a touchdown. Of course we run twice only get to the 8 and come up just short on 3rd down and the rest as they say is history.

Anyway, had to get that off my chest. I don't mind losing, but at least attack the other side and give yourself a chance to put the other team away. I've been a Parcells supporter, but the decisions in this game are making question my faith in him.
 

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i dont think romo is agood sneaker, who knows maybe he is, but hes small and cant push a pile, Bledsoe porbably could do it, not romo, maybe if we put drew in there to throw a wrinkle maybe we could have caught them off guard or somethin
 

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dboyz;1308327 said:
I guess I'm still not over the loss. What bothers me most about it is we didn't go down swinging. The Seattle secondary was vulnerable, to say the least and we didn't go after them. And in general we weren't aggressive at important points in the game.

Before the game my thought was that I can deal with the Cowboys losing, but they should be aggressive, attack the Seahawks and give themselves a chance to win. If Romo throws 4 interceptions, fine, but you don't want to finish the game and feel like you left some ammo off the field.

A couple of examples that are illustrative of our approach in the game.

On our field goal drive in the 4th quarter, Jones had a six yard run to the Seattle 13, making it 2nd and 4. The score at this time was 17-13. A touchdown puts us up two scores and we very likely win the game, so that has to be given strong consideration. I believe in playing to win, not trying to hang around. 2nd and four is a good time for play-action, but we run Julius and gain three making it 3rd down and if I remember correctly about a foot.

Again, to me, a touchdown is huge here, a field goal is ok, but if you score a touchdown here you probably have a 90% chance to win, because it will take 2 scores to beat you. To me, there are two valid play calls here:

1. quarterback sneak - Romo can practically fall forward and get the first down. It's a conservative call, but a good call, because it's a very high percentage play for a first down when you have a short distance to go and even if you don't get it, you are probably even closer if you want to go on fourth, because you rarely lose yardage on QB sneaks.

2. Play action. It would be a big surprise and you'd have a chance at a touchdown.

Of course we hand off and get nowhere. Now anyone can play the 20/20 hindsight game and say it didn't work, therefore it was a bad play call. My point is that just by looking at the situation beforehand and not knowing what will happen, the handoff was the worst possible play call. If you want to just get the first down, a QB sneak does that and it's very unlikely you'll lose yardage. Any gain of yardage would pretty much get you the first down. If you want to be a little daring, then play action is the way to go. Running to a tail back is conservative and it also allows the defense time to penetrate and blow up the play. Bad call. The worst thing is we ended up kicking a field goal without ever attacking the endzone, when a touchdown pretty much ices the game.

Ok, next situation on our infamous drive, it's 1-10 on the Seattle 11 with Seattle leading 21-20. Again a field goal is good, but I would still be worried because a field goal by Seattle still gives them the game. I would want a touchdown. On first or second down I would have done some play action or a pass of some sort to at least attack the endzone. I know we wanted to run Seattle out of timeouts, but as it turned out they still would have had enough time for a drive. Had the 3rd down pass to Witten happened on second down, we would have had another chance to pick up the first or get a touchdown. Of course we run twice only get to the 8 and come up just short on 3rd down and the rest as they say is history.

Anyway, had to get that off my chest. I don't mind losing, but at least attack the other side and give yourself a chance to put the other team away. I've been a Parcells supporter, but the decisions in this game are making question my faith in him.

Beast agrees with you my friend. I heard somewhere that if Witten would have got the 1st, Parcells wanted Romo to take a knee??

What the $#@&

How bout try to score a TD, Parcells is freaking clueless. He needs to go and right now. If I have to watch this conservative crap next year I am going to puke:(
 

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Beast_from_East;1308365 said:
Beast agrees with you my friend. I heard somewhere that if Witten would have got the 1st, Parcells wanted Romo to take a knee??

What the $#@&

How bout try to score a TD, Parcells is freaking clueless. He needs to go and right now. If I have to watch this conservative crap next year I am going to puke:(

he wanted to milk the clock because he didn't trust the d. either way he's screwed.
 

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silver;1308368 said:
he wanted to milk the clock because he didn't trust the d. either way he's screwed.

He didnt trust the D, but the new D coordinator is going to be in house?

Thats something to look forward to:laugh2:
 

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you lose 21-20, but you didnt go down swinging.

You drove all the way down to the 1 and half, with wat 2 or 3 miuntes left, but we didnt go down swinging?

No wonder i see no reason to post here :\
 

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Say what you want about the defense... they came to play... Henry was hot, Roy got the INT... Newman was good... Carpenter excited me... we let him loose once in a while and he will be making plays for us for years to come...

We put the Defense in a bad position after the safety... the safety really decided the game IMO...

Even if Romo doesnt fumble that snap... it looked like the D would have given up enough for LONG FG... Brown can hit them 55-60 yards.... it would have been a different kind of heartbreak... we needed 7 on the previous drive where we got a FG...


the above in bold were the deciding factors in the game
 

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dargonking999;1308452 said:
you lose 21-20, but you didnt go down swinging.

You drove all the way down to the 1 and half, with wat 2 or 3 miuntes left, but we didnt go down swinging?

No wonder i see no reason to post here :\
rawr.
 

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dargonking999;1308452 said:
you lose 21-20, but you didnt go down swinging.

You drove all the way down to the 1 and half, with wat 2 or 3 miuntes left, but we didnt go down swinging?

No wonder i see no reason to post here :\

is this even english???
 

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YoMick;1308469 said:
Say what you want about the defense... they came to play... Henry was hot, Roy got the INT... Newman was good... Carpenter excited me... we let him loose once in a while and he will be making plays for us for years to come...

We put the Defense in a bad position after the safety... the safety really decided the game IMO...

Even if Romo doesnt fumble that snap... it looked like the D would have given up enough for LONG FG... Brown can hit them 55-60 yards.... it would have been a different kind of heartbreak... we needed 7 on the previous drive where we got a FG...


the above in bold were the deciding factors in the game


That's actually my point. We needed 7 not 3, and we really made a poor attempt to get seven. We settled for 3 and that hurt us.

The safety was a terrible play in the ball game, but to me there's not much to second guess there. It was a good play call; it just didn't work out. The instances where we weren't aggressive I would second guess.
 

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YoMick;1308434 said:
I disagree... we were playing pretty good... looked hungry

I think we were playing pretty good too. My feeling though is just that we finished the game and still had a few clips of ammo left that we decided to not use.

We were running the ball pretty well late in the game, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it will get tougher to run in the red zone. Twice we got very conservative in the red zone. Why not try to beat a corner that's not used to playing, rather than settle for a field goal.
 

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dargonking999;1308452 said:
you lose 21-20, but you didnt go down swinging.

You drove all the way down to the 1 and half, with wat 2 or 3 miuntes left, but we didnt go down swinging?

No wonder i see no reason to post here :\

Then don't.
 

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Hell I can't get over the game either. I don't know how we managed not to throw passes all over the Seahawks secondary. They were beggin' for it and we are team just loaded with receiving weapons. Glenn the fast, speedy receiver, Owens the possession receiver, Witten the pro-bowl TE...I mean c'mon.

The game shouldn't even have had to boil down to that friggin' botched FG.
 

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Throw me into the group tired of seeing Parcells run it up the middle on 3rd and long. His playcalling sucks, offense and defense...He needs to let some coordinators coordinate.
 

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WarC;1308837 said:
Throw me into the group tired of seeing Parcells run it up the middle on 3rd and long. His playcalling sucks, offense and defense...He needs to let some coordinators coordinate.

Dallas with Romo at QB has been coverting 3rd and long, not sure where your getting this run up the middle stuff.
 

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Doomsday101;1308843 said:
Dallas with Romo at QB has been coverting 3rd and long, not sure where your getting this run up the middle stuff.

Barber had 12 runs on 3rd and 6+ ALL year long. He gained 102 yards on them. The "we always run on third and long"'s theory has had it's legs shot out.
 
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