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[Whirlwin]

wrong!!!!

dude how could you keep saying that???!~!!~!!

there is no way of Dallas front office wanted to lose this year to get a quarterback after 4th rounder Lance is sitting as the 3rd, signed Prescott and lamb to their deals, that would be a true reset??? Tank??!!

NOT AT ALL,

if you want to get as high as you can the draft ,a true tank, it's not signing two of the better in the NFL to HUGE deals, you're never going to convince it's me they did this on purpose this is just Jerry in the front office making bad decisions that make it look like they wanted a tank , Nope just was that bad an offseaosn.

but I'm sorry, you don't do all those things that they did leading up to game one and say that their intention was to tank,

they would have tried to trade Prescott in February, they would have asked him would he like to go elsewhere while the QB market was wide open with options, because they want to move on for him and have no intentions of signing him and seeing he wanted to be traded... same thing with lamb, they would have let him hold out like other teams there are other teams out there that let Redick hold out for like 8 games, then they signed him to what they thought was comfortable ,that's what you do I don't think jamar chase ever got his deal did he I can't remember ?? but there are teams that decide they're not signing a player and they have good reasons to do it lie to TANK! you don't go sign your best players and then expect to lose you don't bring back your coaching staff that you thought Mike McCarthy may have had one more opportunity he did not purposely bring back Mike McCarthy because he didn't want to pay his one year deal that he didn't want to eat that money?? lmao 4.5 MIl? so instead he pays all the biggest money to some record-breaking contracts that's your feeling in your eyes and your perspective they did that to lose??!!!

they brought back MM, Dak and Lamb to Tank??

No, the truth is obvious,

he believed that Mike McCarthy had another 10-12 win season left and maybe they were going to get better by the playoffs and maybe have one last small window open to do so and he wanted Mike McCarthy to finish what he started, 36 wins 2 div tiles and 3 straight playoffs ie 2nd seed home game is why he was back in jerrys eyes,

then you have 8 injuries to some really key positions and then you struggle at other positions and some of the rookies didn't come along for some of the second year players but in the front office mind these things were not going to happen , and they thought they had a chance , it flopped , and now we have an accident that put us on track to get higher draft picks and maybe Jerry to be embarrassed enough to have a little bit better off season next year...

he'll be a little more encouraged with a new coaching staff and some players retiring and knowing the mistakes he made this year he will have one of those bounce back years like in 2016 when we picked up Ezekiel Elliott after the year before trying to go with running back by committee...

This year shaping up a whole lot like 2015 or 2020 and immediately Jerry was a little bit more aggressive and tried a little bit harder and he just fell into it his bad decisions were all stacked and it seems like their direction was taking and I'm telling you you're 100% off base and 100% wrong nothing they did with Prescott land and McCarthy said that they were trying to take they would have allowed those players to sit they would have forced them to hold out they would have tried to trade them you don't sign players to those types of deals and hope to take because you're telling me he didn't wanna lose 5 million firing Mike McCarthy but hands that 60 million without any other bidders at the moment that's a record-breaking NFL deal the most guaranteed money ever you sign a guy to that is your key that they were taking and they had an opportunity just to leave lamb on the bench that would have been tanking when you signed one and then decide to sign the other your intentions were to win this year that is a fact because we have the proof just because we're losing and now we make it higher draft picks and are having a bad season doesn't mean that was the plan...

Speculation, nothing else makes sense to me. And Jerry does want Dion‘s son. Maybe he thought he would sit and learn behind Prescott. But who knows what Jerry really thinking

 

[Whirlwin]

wrong!!!!

dude how could you keep saying that???!~!!~!!

there is no way of Dallas front office wanted to lose this year to get a quarterback after 4th rounder Lance is sitting as the 3rd, signed Prescott and lamb to their deals, that would be a true reset??? Tank??!!

NOT AT ALL,

if you want to get as high as you can the draft ,a true tank, it's not signing two of the better in the NFL to HUGE deals, you're never going to convince it's me they did this on purpose this is just Jerry in the front office making bad decisions that make it look like they wanted a tank , Nope just was that bad an offseaosn.

but I'm sorry, you don't do all those things that they did leading up to game one and say that their intention was to tank,

they would have tried to trade Prescott in February, they would have asked him would he like to go elsewhere while the QB market was wide open with options, because they want to move on for him and have no intentions of signing him and seeing he wanted to be traded... same thing with lamb, they would have let him hold out like other teams there are other teams out there that let Redick hold out for like 8 games, then they signed him to what they thought was comfortable ,that's what you do I don't think jamar chase ever got his deal did he I can't remember ?? but there are teams that decide they're not signing a player and they have good reasons to do it lie to TANK! you don't go sign your best players and then expect to lose you don't bring back your coaching staff that you thought Mike McCarthy may have had one more opportunity he did not purposely bring back Mike McCarthy because he didn't want to pay his one year deal that he didn't want to eat that money?? lmao 4.5 MIl? so instead he pays all the biggest money to some record-breaking contracts that's your feeling in your eyes and your perspective they did that to lose??!!!

they brought back MM, Dak and Lamb to Tank??

No, the truth is obvious,

he believed that Mike McCarthy had another 10-12 win season left and maybe they were going to get better by the playoffs and maybe have one last small window open to do so and he wanted Mike McCarthy to finish what he started, 36 wins 2 div tiles and 3 straight playoffs ie 2nd seed home game is why he was back in jerrys eyes,

then you have 8 injuries to some really key positions and then you struggle at other positions and some of the rookies didn't come along for some of the second year players but in the front office mind these things were not going to happen , and they thought they had a chance , it flopped , and now we have an accident that put us on track to get higher draft picks and maybe Jerry to be embarrassed enough to have a little bit better off season next year...

he'll be a little more encouraged with a new coaching staff and some players retiring and knowing the mistakes he made this year he will have one of those bounce back years like in 2016 when we picked up Ezekiel Elliott after the year before trying to go with running back by committee...

This year shaping up a whole lot like 2015 or 2020 and immediately Jerry was a little bit more aggressive and tried a little bit harder and he just fell into it his bad decisions were all stacked and it seems like their direction was taking and I'm telling you you're 100% off base and 100% wrong nothing they did with Prescott land and McCarthy said that they were trying to take they would have allowed those players to sit they would have forced them to hold out they would have tried to trade them you don't sign players to those types of deals and hope to take because you're telling me he didn't wanna lose 5 million firing Mike McCarthy but hands that 60 million without any other bidders at the moment that's a record-breaking NFL deal the most guaranteed money ever you sign a guy to that is your key that they were taking and they had an opportunity just to leave lamb on the bench that would have been tanking when you signed one and then decide to sign the other your intentions were to win this year that is a fact because we have the proof just because we're losing and now we make it higher draft picks and are having a bad season doesn't mean that was the plan...

We weren’t doing well as a team way before the injuries.

 

[blueblood70]

Speculation, nothing else makes sense to me. And Jerry does want Dion‘s son.

No he doesn't, there's no way he's picking a quarterback that high in the draft I don't hear what he wants my dad used to say you can want in one hand and you know in the other see which one weighs more.. Jerry's outwardly made it clear he wanted quite a few players but he never got them that doesn't mean he's not going to listen to his draft board they will not pick a quarterback in round one guaranteed so unless Dionne son should or Sanders do you not know his name somehow it falls to the second or third round he's not going to be a Dallas cowboy they will not groom and draft a player high at the quarterback position not when they just paid Dak.. That's never been Jerry's MO ever they don't tank they don't purposely ever lose games ever I mean look at the end of 2020 they literally went four and one they could have had a better draft pick but they won games they will not tank to get a specific player and they for sure are not picking a quarterback high...

This is why we don't talk about this right now it's way too in the middle of the season too many games left to worry about where the Draft order are going to fall and who they want and don't want...

Let me give you a scenario it has nothing to do with perspective your perspective is 100% wrong they did not take this year they did not purposely go out and lose games they did not hope to have a bad season
.
But if we're in position to pick and Sanders and hunter are both there you know on the same team Travis hunter Sanders they will take hunter no doubt 100%.. Why because he's gonna be a whole lot more like deon Sanders than shoedor Sanders..

Think about it the guy is already a great wide receiver which we need but also equally he could probably be a very good to great corner remember this position flex Jerry likes options?

So we can talk about this in the draft but I guarantee if those two players are both there when we pick in the first round they'll take Travers hunter all day every day...

 

[blueblood70]

We weren’t doing well as a team way before the injuries.

But I'm telling you it wasn't done on purpose how can you not understand it and by the way that can change if you had your full complement of players and starters your coaches have the ability to adjust readjust and finally settle in to where they can get on a roll get into a groove I don't know how many times I've seen San Francisco the Cincinnati Bengals they start slow but if you have your compliment your full compliment of starters you have a better chance of getting it turned around we will never know what was going to happen because it never developed... There's no way in hell you're gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me that we were better off and would've done the same things had we had the starters the whole entire season versus missing 8 of them especially on defense that Mike Zimmer would not have got it figured out but then when you're playing with your fifth string and your sixth string pass rushers and your third and fourth string corners both of which were very young and not very good and Trayvon diggs with a calf injury and now lamb and Prescott you cannot play the same and predict what would have happened just because of what you saw the first four games...

In my opinion Mike Zimmer would have got the right mix and they would he would've figured it out and had a better shot with all the starters healthy...

But again I can't say this I'm 100% positive knowing Jerry Jones don't lose games on purpose his mindset is he thought they were gonna win this year they had a shot to get to the playoffs he would've absolutely never had resigned Prescott and lamb had his intentions been to lose on purpose and tank this season and torpedo his head coach over $4.5 million versus the money he did spend that didn't happen you would never convince me of it and you can say it from the rooftops that didn't happen with this Jerry Jones that we all know...

 

[Whirlwin]

No he doesn't, there's no way he's picking a quarterback that high in the draft I don't hear what he wants my dad used to say you can want in one hand and you know in the other see which one weighs more.. Jerry's outwardly made it clear he wanted quite a few players but he never got them that doesn't mean he's not going to listen to his draft board they will not pick a quarterback in round one guaranteed so unless Dionne son should or Sanders do you not know his name somehow it falls to the second or third round he's not going to be a Dallas cowboy they will not groom and draft a player high at the quarterback position not when they just paid Dak.. That's never been Jerry's MO ever they don't tank they don't purposely ever lose games ever I mean look at the end of 2020 they literally went four and one they could have had a better draft pick but they won games they will not tank to get a specific player and they for sure are not picking a quarterback high...

This is why we don't talk about this right now it's way too in the middle of the season too many games left to worry about where the Draft order are going to fall and who they want and don't want...

Let me give you a scenario it has nothing to do with perspective your perspective is 100% wrong they did not take this year they did not purposely go out and lose games they did not hope to have a bad season
.
But if we're in position to pick and Sanders and hunter are both there you know on the same team Travis hunter Sanders they will take hunter no doubt 100%.. Why because he's gonna be a whole lot more like deon Sanders than shoedor Sanders..

Think about it the guy is already a great wide receiver which we need but also equally he could probably be a very good to great corner remember this position flex Jerry likes options?

So we can talk about this in the draft but I guarantee if those two players are both there when we pick in the first round they'll take Travers hunter all day every day...

I guarantee you, Jerry takes a running back, lol. But he definitely wants Dion’s son.

 

[Whirlwin]

But I'm telling you it wasn't done on purpose how can you not understand it and by the way that can change if you had your full complement of players and starters your coaches have the ability to adjust readjust and finally settle in to where they can get on a roll get into a groove I don't know how many times I've seen San Francisco the Cincinnati Bengals they start slow but if you have your compliment your full compliment of starters you have a better chance of getting it turned around we will never know what was going to happen because it never developed... There's no way in hell you're gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me that we were better off and would've done the same things had we had the starters the whole entire season versus missing 8 of them especially on defense that Mike Zimmer would not have got it figured out but then when you're playing with your fifth string and your sixth string pass rushers and your third and fourth string corners both of which were very young and not very good and Trayvon diggs with a calf injury and now lamb and Prescott you cannot play the same and predict what would have happened just because of what you saw the first four games...

In my opinion Mike Zimmer would have got the right mix and they would he would've figured it out and had a better shot with all the starters healthy...

But again I can't say this I'm 100% positive knowing Jerry Jones don't lose games on purpose his mindset is he thought they were gonna win this year they had a shot to get to the playoffs he would've absolutely never had resigned Prescott and lamb had his intentions been to lose on purpose and tank this season and torpedo his head coach over $4.5 million versus the money he did spend that didn't happen you would never convince me of it and you can say it from the rooftops that didn't happen with this Jerry Jones that we all know...

We can’t stop the running game, we don’t have the linebackers to keep up with tight ends. We’re just not good.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

All off-season the thing that drive me craziest was the insane mixed messages.

We don't sign CeeDee until camp closes.
We come out of gate flat as can be.
We extend Dak and CeeDee to massive deals but only very last minute when roster is set.
We let the Coaching staff ride on lame duck status.
We allow guys to wlak in free agency and offer no effort to replace them other than maybe a guy will be there in the draft.

No cogent plan whatsoever.


Now there is one.
The boomerang year.
You fall dead then get up and go try to win it in 2025.
The 49ers have done this recently for reference.

Why would this make sense?
You reset the roster. --quite possibly with DLaw and Martin leaving.
And add high picks in every round.
You either get a new staff or you are forced to commit to the one you have.

Now you can let veterans heal properly and you can play young guys hoping to find a couple solutions.
Pressure is off. For now.

I love where your head is at but Jerry isn't that smart to do this....

 

[blueblood70]

I guarantee you, Jerry takes a running back, lol. But he definitely wants Dion’s son.

you know what, I'll take that I mean literally if you get Jeanty or whatever his name is or a guy that's in that class of Ezekiel Elliott or saquon Barkley that were in the draft and we're worth taking that high if you plan on using them up... i doubt it if we're in the top five but if we're in the top 10, Jeanty being touted as generational I mean what would it happen at his level of competition I don't know but over what they did this year by completely ignoring the running back position I'll take them over drafting and running back if they're of that caliber and I heard this is a deep class though they may not have to do that I hear this running back class is going to be one of the best running back classes in quite a few years.. years.

But like I said we cannot at this moment start guessing who they might pick like what position not knowing how they're going to finish we literally need to know if it's going to be top five or top 10..

Knowing who's gonna fall where I don't care who you think he likes doesn't mean he's gonna pick him they can outwardly say how much they would love to have an ex player here I mean how when is emmitt Smith's son coming out then he just start at A&M can't wait for that but when's the last time that actually happened that he literally target a guy because of the name on the back of his jersey because he was an ex Dallas Cowboys son I mean I don't care how much he says it in public when is the last time he did that and just picked a guy just for that reason only.. Not to say Sanders can't be good but he might just end up being Anthony Richardson that's a project you do not take in the first round he may end up working out but you gotta stop reaching for quarterbacks this league is killing themselves and putting undue pressure on some of these young quarterbacks because they're not..

 

[blueblood70]

We can’t stop the running game, we don’t have the linebackers to keep up with tight ends. We’re just not good.

I know we're not good what does that have to do with anything my point was people are saying that we purposely take the season that Jerry did this on purpose like it was a plan like a blueprint and it was nothing of the sort this is just him this organically happened that's all I'm saying is there's no way in hell the conspiracy is they went into the season and these lack of moves or lack of inspiration and lack of trades were because they wanted to lose that's absolutely wrong... No I'm saying they aren't good but it was never the pan nor the intention..

 

[big dog cowboy]

All off-season the thing that drive me craziest was the insane mixed messages.

We don't sign CeeDee until camp closes.
We come out of gate flat as can be.
We extend Dak and CeeDee to massive deals but only very last minute when roster is set.
We let the Coaching staff ride on lame duck status.
We allow guys to walk in free agency and offer no effort to replace them other than maybe a guy will be there in the draft.

Thanks JT.

I'm going to go throw up now.

 

[Roadtrip635]

I'm sure Jerry has learned from all of his mistakes, a new day will dawn and this organization will be humming like a well oiled machine from here on out.

 

[Sarge]

Until they are back in play, that is still in abstract.

Excellent point. Fantastic.

 

[windward]

And we know how well Jerry does with high draft picks.

2016 - Which would have been the better pair of #4 and #45 overall draft picks, RB Ezekiel Elliot and LB Jaylon Smith or CB Jalen Ramsey and RB Derrick Henry?

2003- #5 overall, Terrence Newman or Troy Polamalu?

2002 #8 overall S Roy Williams or DE Dwight Freeney?

1998 #8 overall, DE Greg Ellis or WR Randy Moss?

2012 #5 overall, CB Morris Claiborne or CB Stephon Gilmore or G David DeCastro and LB Robert Wagner (Dallas traded their #14 and #45 overall to get #5 overall)?

There is only one way to truly reset this franchise and we all know what that is. Otherwise, we are just trading out one set of disappointments for another.

Ok but no one was clamoring for Polamalu at 5. Some wanted Terrell Suggs. Others wanted Kevin Williams. Hell some argued for Leftwich. But no one then was seriously considering Polamalu at pick 5.