"We like our guys" mantra rings true based on numbers

[Hennessy_King]

What have they won Bob!!!!

NOTHING!!!

 

[rambo2]

We heard that in 2017 after the 13 win season, and in 2015 after that 12 win season, and 2010 after the 11 win season…

This thinking is part of the reason Dallas is in this cycle to begin with. “Don’t change anything and hope for the best.” Rookies don’t normally show out their rookie season, and it’s unrealistic to draft them expecting that. For every Micah Parsons, there’s a Michael Gallup, a Demarcus Lawrence, a La’El Collins, and a Byron Jones… guys who took the course of their rookie deals to develop into consistently reliable players. No one drafts for that year, they draft for the future of the team. Jerry is consistently hedging his win now for the Cowboy’s longterm future instead of balancing the two. What is he saving the money right now for? What are we anticipating he cuts Zeke to do? Re-sign the same players who brought you where you are now, and then replace the departures with more rookies.

Tyler Smith and Sam Williams may play significant minutes this year, but to expect them to elevate a 12 win team before they ever played a down of professional football isn’t realistic, and it’s a bit unfair to them. They can’t be anything other than rookie disappointments if they not Micah as long as that’s the mentality.

Being knee jerk isn't realistic. The Cowboys should be good.

 

[nalam]

Dallas Cowboys led NFL by wide margin in own drafted talent taking the field in 2021

Avid fans of the Dallas Cowboys are all too familiar with this team putting their faith in draft picks and homegrown talent, foregoing the first wave of free agency to prioritize their own. The Cowboys have certainly built a strong core of players using this method, but their inability to find playoff success has made this team-building strategy questionable.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ZvIX2Yw2TnUYO-2floII9M-pTXF8KydQCf5YrQoJs4GK0

ok I will bite.

1. so a team which is only built mainly by draft should have surplus Cap? Why wasn’t that the case start of FA season? Meaning the team is run by Amateurs.
2. Also they shouldn’t be in a position to be blackmailed by an average player & allocate too many $ to one position…which is not the case , since they neglected the QB position in the drafts.
3. Why has the run D not addressed in 5-8 years of drafting ?
4. If the team is built well after multiple drafts they should be consistent in the division at least , meaning dynasty kind 3-4 years of continued dominance , which is not the case, NFL east champions are rotating every year for sometime.

dont even go to playoff success.

 

[Truck]

The problem is that we reward our draft picks with massive deals because they have fantastic regular seasons with record setting stats. We need to be rewarding players for big time play off wins.

That would be a problem given we don’t have too many of those. But against Seattle Dak did OK, and Zeke, Amari and Vander Esh all did OK, but nothing mind blowing. Then we got thumped by the Rams the next week

 

[DanA]

There are three fazes (draft, free agency, trade) and we are good at one and hopeless at the other two. That doesn’t get it done and a policy emphasising signing your own without consideration for other puts you at a competitive disadvantage as 32 teams have free agents.

By all means sign guys like Zac Martin early but once they are free agents without a tag hanging over their head they really shouldn’t be preferences over other options.

 

[DanA]

ok I will bite.

1. so a team which is only built mainly by draft should have surplus Cap? Why wasn’t that the case start of FA season? Meaning the team is run by Amateurs.
2. Also they shouldn’t be in a position to be blackmailed by an average player & allocate too many $ to one position…which is not the case , since they neglected the QB position in the drafts.
3. Why has the run D not addressed in 5-8 years of drafting ?
4. If the team is built well after multiple drafts they should be consistent in the division at least , meaning dynasty kind 3-4 years of continued dominance , which is not the case, NFL east champions are rotating every year for sometime.

dont even go to playoff success.

1. Because we are still paying off the Romo era and made some horrendous decisions paying our own too much and scouring for “bargains” at a cut price in FA.
   
2. They shouldn’t be but “we like our guys”. The Zeke deal was utter craziness that no other team in the NFL would have entertained.
3. The run D was not addressed in the draft because it seemingly never fell right. It could easily have been addressed in free agency but again”we like our guys”
4. This drafting has been hamstrung by misevaluating our guys in free agency and not constructing the right roster.

Let’s go back to 2 years ago when we signed Poe, McCoy, Aldon Smith, Griffin, Clinton-Dix while signing Zeke, Jaylon, and Collins.

The draft was fine, we got Ceedee, Diggs, Gallimore, and Biadasz but what we did in free agency lead to a historically bad defense while we lost our QB mid-season. That kind of shitshow makes it hard to succeed.

 

[Jake]

Maybe not if they build off of the 12 and 5 season add get better with about 12 rookies making the team this year. They could very well turn the corner in the right direction.

History tells us the Cowboys are more likely to take a step back this season than a step forward.

Not just the team's own history this century, but replacing veterans with rookies at key positions - and seeing improvement in their first years - is uncommon.

 

[Risen Star]

In their defense, if other teams drafted as well all of the time like we do they'd play more drafted players too.

 

[rambo2]

History tells us the Cowboys are more likely to take a step back this season than a step forward.

Not just the team's own history this century, but replacing veterans with rookies at key positions - and seeing improvement in their first years - is uncommon.

Recent history tells us that the Cowboys are pretty good right now and are the current favorite in the East.

 

[rambo2]

History tells us the Cowboys are more likely to take a step back this season than a step forward.

Not just the team's own history this century, but replacing veterans with rookies at key positions - and seeing improvement in their first years - is uncommon.

The Cowboys are are currently division favorite.

 

[DandyDon52]

Dallas Cowboys led NFL by wide margin in own drafted talent taking the field in 2021

Avid fans of the Dallas Cowboys are all too familiar with this team putting their faith in draft picks and homegrown talent, foregoing the first wave of free agency to prioritize their own. The Cowboys have certainly built a strong core of players using this method, but their inability to find playoff success has made this team-building strategy questionable.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ZvIX2Yw2TnUYO-2floII9M-pTXF8KydQCf5YrQoJs4GK0

well being on the field or even a starter does not validate we like our guys strategy.
they may play and be ok, but ok wont get team deep in playoffs.
as for being a starter. just look at the jaylon smith story they liked him too, even extended him! then he became a corporation
and didnt really care about football or cowboys lol. just show up do a few swipes and go home, count his money, manage his corporation !
jeff heath was a guy they liked for years, and he did some good, and tried hard, but just got beat up doing it. he was also cheap and stevy likes that in his guys lol.

So far only micah has been a guy who they can like and he can play good too.
the rest of the guys have been avg to not very good.

I will say this, some of the guys they got this last draft may be players you can like, have to wait and see.
ridgeway, like him people say tyron should be good, same for herbert, I think this washington kid may be likeable.

But it cant be just because they play, they have to be above avg to really good for this whole draft build to work good.

 

[DandyDon52]

The Cowboys are are currently division favorite.

the curse and the history say different !
your saying they will do something that hasnt been done in 20 years !!

now I admit it looks like cowboys should win the division, but stuff happens rambo !
some other team like phil could Rambo the cowboys this season !

 

[CowboyFrog]

Here is what i see, The GM came out after last season and said he was not happy with the effort and Penalties (coaching). So he made some changes to the roster (some where forced on him) and basically put the HC on notice, Not saying I agree with how he has built the roster but if he follows through with holding everyone accountable this season I am willing to see what happens moving forward with the roster because until there is accountability from the top down the roster seems to never reach the expectations that the experts give them.

 

[rambo2]

the curse and the history say different !
your saying they will do something that hasnt been done in 20 years !!

now I admit it looks like cowboys should win the division, but stuff happens rambo !
some other team like phil could Rambo the cowboys this season !

I didn't say they would do anything. Just stated a fact that you can see at sports books.